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There has been a considerable uproar over a story in the overseas version of the Chinese newspaper The People’s Daily. The story suggested the Chinese are very unhappy with the low value of the U.S. dollar. The most quoted line from the story is:
The United States has plundered global wealth by exploiting the dollar's dominance, and the world urgently needs other currencies to take its place.
Clearly the Chinese have a beef with the greenback and the way the U.S. has treated it.
However, the Chinese anger seems misplaced, they are massive holders of U.S. dollars and dollar denominated assets, why would they want to trash the dollar? Doing so would only hurt their dollar positions.
I spent a good portion of yesterday pondering this exact question, and then, over a bowl of cookie dough ice cream it came to me….the Chinese have figured out the greatest trade EVER!
If the Chinese decide to transfer their dollars into another dollar denominated asset, besides U.S. Treasury debt, they have a few choices. Several of these options include: U.S. equities, private equity stakes, agricultural commodities, oil and gold.
If they choose gold they have a significant advantage. Since gold roughly trades inversely to the U.S. dollar, the Chinese could buy gold with some of their dollar reserves and use the rest of the dollar reserves to keep a cap on a rising dollar. In this way they create the exact scenario that would cause the price of gold to rise, i.e., increased investment demand and a weak dollar. With this trade they could convert a depreciating asset into an appreciating asset and have some control over the appreciation. The Chinese government is one of the only sovereigns that have the resources to have a significant impact on both these markets.
Chinese dollar holdings are estimated to be more than $1 trillion. Using this figure as the estimated “dollar portfolio” we can get a little perspective on China's ability to influence the gold market.
According to the World Gold Council, as of June 2008, the total amount of gold held in reserve was $894 billion or 29,813 tons. Immediately it is clear to see that, if it wanted to, China could buy all the gold in the world. Of course, that is all but impossible since the gold reserves are held by central banks and are not for sale.
A more realistic (and mathematically simple) scenario may be that China wants to spend $89 billion of its $1 trillion on gold, using the World Gold Council statistics that would buy China about 2900 tons. The following chart shows tonnage statistics for the last two years.
Gold Supply and Demand
In Tons
In tons | 2006 | 2007 |
Supply | ||
Mine Production | 2485 | 2475 |
Central Bank Gold Sales | 370 | 501 |
Total Gold Supply | 3573 | 3496 |
Demand | ||
Jewelry | 2284 | 2400 |
Bar and Coin Investment | 424 | 445 |
Total Demand | 3405 | 3518 |
Source: World Gold Council
It is clear from the table that if China spent less than 10% of its dollar reserves to buy gold, they would overwhelm the market. They would be able to buy all the mine production and all the gold the central banks wanted to sell. They would also double the total demand for gold.
Of course I have no proof that the Chinese are doing this or are even contemplating buying gold with their dollars. But if I was running the dollar reserve portfolio and my bosses were talking tough about the dollar, I would look for alternative investments.
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Now if the Chinese were to buy the Euro with their Dollars, thereby weakening the $$, then buying gold as it depreciates. It might help their trade as well as enabling diversification. This is my opinion.
GO Barack Hussein Obama. Carl Marx would be proud of you.
What I do think is that the Chinese are masters is disinformation and spreading confusion.
And maybe we could use something different, anyhow. What we're doing now, whether you call it "capitalism" or just "socialism for billionaires" ain't working. I call it FASCISM: the unholy alignment of government, military, and industry that devours the people they are supposed to represent & protect.
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I have stated before and will again. I suspect that the economic downturn is a result of China stockpiling commodities such as coal, iron and copper. I believe that they were/are trying to push the price of these products down. It could be that they lost control of the situation and may have accidentally engineered our world recession.
Actually, I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, I just don't see these types of market manipulations as being that hard to pull off.
jegan ;-)
Also keep in mind, if China is worried about the dollar and wants to do something about it, all they need to do to "break even" (i.e. not lose the net value of its reserves) is to shift only 50% of its reserves out of the US$.
One more thing, I thought your article is well within the line of thinking of a good article I read earlier this year on the Kitco website. Here's a link...
www.kitco.com/ind/Dill...
In the article, he makes some predictions about gold prices under various scenarios, one of which is a move by China to diversify just 5% of its dollar reserves. That scenario alone was estimated to drive gold prices up to around $1,400.
FYI- I"m long DGP/GLD/gold coins/and Toqueville Gold Fund.
seekingalpha.com/artic...
Speculation: Is China behind the $2.29T naked shorting of US T-Bonds? It's T for Trillions!!!
I don't claim to know the entire Communist Manifesto but I do know that the goal is to eliminate the class split between Owners and Workers. In this case, both small and large business owners, exceeding a certain scale, will be taxed more so that those below a certain scale can be taxed less. You can call it whatever you want.
Robin Hood stealing from the rich to give to the poor was a way of redistributing the wealth. It lasted until King Richard returned to power and the poor were taxed again.
The definition of stealing: the act of taking something unlawfully.
Obama wants to change tax law to accomplish his ends. I would benefit, but just because I would benefit doesn't make it the right thing to do.
You work hard your entire life and then someone comes along goes says you were foolish to do so. I don't like the very idea of a "hand out".
Now if Taxing the Rich involved transferring it to create new jobs to employ more workers, I would cheer him on.
The Americans will keep playing this game until it collapses, and then the Americans will simply renege on their debt. The Asian economies will be wiped out. As for the Americans, who would also be in economic trouble after such a move, all they have to do is start a program of rebuilding factories, infrastructure, etc. and not only would there be jobs for every American, but Americans would regain all the physical plant they need to continue economic dominance (remember that in the 1950's Americans were not only the biggest consumers but they were AT THE SAME TIME also the biggest producers). They will come out of all this smelling like roses! If there is competition for natural resources because of this then the Americans can call on their powerful military to ensure supply.
People like Peter Schiff say that the Asians will rebel against the West and become consumers themselves, but I question whether the Asian world can ever be "Western-style consumers". There are cultural issues that suggest that only the West can be the West.
great analysis indeed, love it...
Neither does it make sense for them to corner the market in gold--certainly not to the extent where it would allow the US to wipe its balance sheet clean by dumping its own gold reserves and/or leasing proven reserves on Federal lands.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again "A clean balance sheet in exchange for some pretty rocks". It isn't going to happen, not unless the Chinese get some hick with a C average running the country. I mean, a major power with an imbecile like that at the helm? It... will... never... umm... nevermind
roflmao. ah man. funny shit. istar i like you.
to bad china aint a trading partner anymore.
chinese stole the strength of the currency anyways?