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Gasoline has fallen to $1.99 a gallon here in my neck of the woods. Everyone seems to be really happy about this. However, it will come as no surprise to my faithful readers that I can even find problems with cheap gasoline! Cheap oil and gasoline will simply reinforce the uninformed American public's opinion that they have an inalienable right to oil which is both plentiful and cheap. Read some of the editorials in the latest financial magazines and you will see that $145/barrel oil and $4.50/gal gasoline have already been long forgotten (it was only 6 months ago).

So what do I propose? Well, at a time when the US government is printing trillions of US dollars to, as Jim Rogers says, "transfer money from the competent (the US tax-payer) to the incompetent (bankers, Wall Streeters, insurance & automotive execs)", and since the US dollar is strong (?), why not use some of these paper dollars to fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? I mean, if Bush thought buying oil at over $100/barrel was a good idea, it must be a real steal under $60. Besides, the next oil crisis is going to be a real doozy! Don't believe me? Just look at all the canceled production projects recently as the credit crunch and cheap oil take their toll. Meanwhile, the skeleton-in-the-closet (oil reservoir depletion rates) keeps knocking most mature oil reservoir yields at about a 6% a year clip.

The SPR has a capacity of 725 million barrels and is currently filled to about 700 million barrels. So, the US government should go ahead and turn on the 70,000 barrel per day shipments to the reserve and continue to fill it to the brim. We're going to need it down the road, you can be sure of that. Even at full capacity, the reserve would only provide roughly a 60 day supply of our foreign oil imports of some 12,000,000 barrels per day. That said, you just know there is going to be a crisis in the Middle East some day soon. Or Russia. Or Venezuela. Or Nigeria. Well, you get the picture.

So, yeah, let's fill up the SPR and get something for our somehow strong currency. Also, let's go ahead while oil prices are low and put a $0.02/gallon "green tax" on gasoline with provision that this tax bypass Congress and be spent directly on public works projects (providing employment) to build out the following:

  • nat gas cars and trucks
  • nat gas refueling stations along the interstate highway system
  • a nat gas appliance for garage refueling
  • solar and wind projects
  • the electric grid to take solar and wind power and transmit it to urban centers

These simple and straightforward initiatives would not only help the recession (will it turn into a depression?) by employing thousands of Americans, they would also have the huge benefit of reducing America's dependence on foreign oil, and cleaning up the environment at the same time. Long term, these infrastructure plays would pay for themselves many times over, much more so than giving the billionaires on Wall Street and in the banking, insurance, and automotive industries yet more money. I call this socialism for the rich, or, as it should be called, fascism. Where do they put all their billions? They sure aren't investing in the stock market...perhaps they are buying European municipal bonds.

Meanwhile, use the stock market crash to snap up energy stocks on the cheap. ExxonMobil (XOM), ConocoPhillips (COP), Chevron (CVX), and BP are all screaming buys, even if oil does go to $50/barrel. Chevron just pumped first oil from Blind Faith today. BP's dividend yield is fantastic and yet the new CEO says the company prefers to raise the dividend as opposed to buying back stock. Exxon, to my extreme regret, does not buy into this strategy and continues to spend shareholder wealth on stock buybacks instead of increasing its dividend. I still own the stock (how can you not?) but boy I'd like to give its management a swift kick in the pants for such a puny dividend on the heels of huge profits, cash flows, and the healthiest balance sheet in the business.

A better play short-term might be the large US natural gas producers. These stocks are ripe for the picking. Note StatOil's (STO) recent investment in Chesapeake (CHP). It will be very interesting to see what the first big takeover offer is in the energy patch...

Disclosure: The author owns all of the stocks mentioned in this article (XOM, COP, CVX, BP, STO, CHP).

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    Hi Michael --- What you seem to propose for the SPR is common sense for most of us, reflected in the adage, "Fix the roof when the sun is shining."

    Same is true your your modest tax propopsal. Tax phobes will scream about it ( and about anything else that has a "public good" ring to it), but the private sector hasn't addressed the problem of developing viable alternatives foreign oil dependence since, maybe 1973. I think that's the first time I remember sitting line for gasoline, under thumb of foreign suppliers. The effort could use a push. Or maybe some would argue that cheap oil is here to stay. Uhh ... ok. Until next time.

    As you suggest, energy companies are incredibly cheap now. Every so often we get it in our heads that oil investing is obsolete. I'd like to publicly thank all who think that and are dumping their shares. The majors you mention are superb investments. You didn't mention the best deep drillers that are also out of style -- I've been steadily buying Noble (NE), most recently for $26 and change. Just in case we again decide that we need a little more oil someday.
    2008 Nov 14 06:54 AM | Link | Reply
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    Fitz,


    NG (like oil) is a short term solution. There is only a finite supply and after it peaks, the drop off is much sharper than oil.

    A better solution is next generation biofuels like ethanol made from cellolusic (non-edible plants), algae and sweet sorghum.

    Obama has energy independance as a #2 priority (a good thing), but the economy will take up 95% of his effort. In the best case we are looking at a 2 yr recession or worst case a 10yr depression ahead of us.

    2008 Nov 14 07:36 AM | Link | Reply
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    in 1953 we had a strategic petroleum reserve, it was called oil in the ground in texas. it was squandered by the big oil companies with the connivance of d.d.eisenhower (ike you gotta keep imported oil out of the country!!!).
    we shoulds pumped saudiland dry first.
    > jack
    2008 Nov 14 08:39 AM | Link | Reply
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    Good article, you are right, filler up. I remember when gas was over $4 a gallon and oil around $140 everyone was talking about how much money the government had made by buying oil for the SPR at an average cost of about $60 a barrel. Again hindsight is 20/20.
    If all the major users of oil are buying futures contracts then the price has to have a bottom right around the corner. I remember how smart UPS and Southwest Air were suppose to have been during the last crisis because they had hedged. Any major user of gas or oil has to be hedging now as far out as they can get. If they are not then fire the management.
    note CHK is the symbol for chesapeake.
    2008 Nov 14 08:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    John,

    The Saudi producers could not vote in the 1956 presidential election, so why do you think Eisenhower imposed an import duty on all imported oil (except from Canada & Mexico) in favor of all the independent producers in Texas (including George Bush Sr & his company Zapata Petroleum) ?
    2008 Nov 14 08:54 AM | Link | Reply
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    If you yell loud enough maybe the new administration will hire you. They should.
    2008 Nov 14 09:16 AM | Link | Reply
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    How long will it be before the greenies put a carbon tax on gas??

    Cars are one of the biggest user of oil, hence they must be contributing to CO2 build up in th atmosphere, hence look out for the carbon tax.
    It is also coming in your electric bill, as greedy politicians begin taxing utilities emitting CO2, read coal and natural gas fired power plants. These polluters of CO2 will be taxed for their carbon emissions and those taxes will be passed right on to the homeowner and factory and office as a new and major cost increase.
    Just what we need in a recession, fast becoming a major one, more taxes. Say good by to more jobs as these taxes start hitting the economy.
    2008 Nov 14 11:38 AM | Link | Reply
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    Great post Michael! Our energy problems are not going away.

    The other long term side benefit in developing 'local and diffuse' sources of energy is that this will reduce geopolitical tensions.

    Wind power, solar power and biofuels can be produced virtually anywhere. The technologies are simple and proven. Every nation can do this. There is more than enough renewable energy to supply ALL of the world's energy needs.

    If you remove the tensions due to the procurement of energy, there will be fewer reasons to station large armies in the desert.

    From being in this industry, I know the economics are currently marginal for these projects. But society needs to grow up and make sacrifices if necessary to do the right thing.

    2008 Nov 14 12:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am constantly amazed at the folly of certain kinds of thinking that pretend we can simply wave a wand and have natural gas cars buzzing around, solar and windfarms that can not only supply enough power for our country but absorb Co2 to boot but NOT include nuclear power. The country has the ability to offset petroleum greatly in the next decade but not replace it as a transporation fuel. Optimism is wonderful, but it does not replace realites.
    2008 Nov 14 12:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    Filling up the SPR at these prices is a good idea as is buying the oil company stocks. I believe our imports from the middle east and other higher risk countries are much lower than the 12,000,000 barrels/day you note. More like 2/3 of our oil comes from North America (US, Canada, and Mexico); so our SPR provides a bigger cushion.

    We all know we have to employ all available energy sources and also develop new and better ones. It would be folly to not rely on proven technology such as NG, oil, coal, and nuclear until we have efficient and dependable alternatives. Sure, biomass ethanol has promise, and it makes everyone feel good to imagine growing some grass and turning it into ethanol to power our cars and trucks, but I sure would not gamble our future on a hope and promise.
    2008 Nov 14 12:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    longo - in 1956 the conventional wisdom in TX/OK was that the oil resource in the ground was infinite (although a few prescient people thought otherwise). i used to go to conventions of the Society of Exploration Geophysicists around that time. it cost 3.00 or so to produce a barrel in TX and about 25cents in saudiland. the concern of the houstonites was that saudi oil would render their owned assets worthless.
    > jack
    2008 Nov 14 12:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks once again for all the comments. As usual, I like to jump in....

    Respirate: hello - your adage is most appropriate. thanks for the supporting comments as well.

    longoil: NG is a short term solution only if we get started now. that said, there are huge reserves of natural gas all over the world, which can power the worlds cars and trucks for 50 years or more. i'm not against biofuels, but if we can't even get the country to turn on to nat gas powered vehicles, how in the world can we get biofuels going? nat gas powered transportation is just a no-brainer. as far as the economy goes, i would agree we are in for a very very long haul. the concentration of wealth into the hands of the 0.001% of most the most wealthy (and well connected..) in the last 8 years can only have disastrous consequences.

    johnsgordon: and then when the saudis run out? what then?

    long_on_oil: i'd hate to have been in charge of energy hedging at a major corporation. i would have made terrible bets. as much as i have bashed george bush's economic policies and his administration's lack of competency, in my wild dreams i never foresaw the financial system meltdown which has led to energy demand dropping off a cliff worldwide. sorry for the CHK symbol and thanks for correcting my typo.

    bluesmoke: i've sent the Obama campaign my energy policy at least 3 times. i started back at the beginning of his campaign when i could tell his advisors were slow to pick up on the energy priority. i'd would love to talk to Obama about energy..and the first thing i would tell him is that windfall profits taxes are a BAD idea and will lead to the next oil spike being even bigger than i think it is going to be now (which is *big*). anyhow, i was just dreaming thinking they would ever listen to me. but thanks for the vote of confidence. i do believe obama will at least begin an energy policy, which is something we certainly do not currently have. wish they would call me though, i need a job now that my investments have all tanked...

    kreg: of course gasoline powered internal combustion engines are contributing to CO2 in the atmosphere - in fact, it is at the rate of 19 lbs of CO2 per gallon of gasoline burned (!).

    engineer: thanks - i'm an engineer too. i agree with your comments.

    iThinkSmall: folly? you act as though natural gas cars don't exist. they do exist and the technology has been around for decades. countries like iran and brazil (oil exporters i might add..) see it in their interest to buy and/or convert their cars to it. there are millions of nat gas cars and trucks all over the world (just not int he US). so, why is it "folly" to think that a country that imports 12,000,000 barrels of foreign oil a day (70% and i am speaking about the US in case you are not keeping up) should do likewise? There is only one nat gas car for sale available in the US today, the Honda CIvic GX:

    automobiles.honda.com/.../

    but i can't even buy it in my state and it is generally not practical since the home refueling appliance is $4k and you can't fill it up anywhere. thus, my recommendations in the article. it is not folly to believe that the US can continue to wave a wand and get all the foreign oil it needs in the future. it is lunacy. that is reality. it is insane that the US has such large reserves of natural gas and we, due to ignorant policies, prefer to send our dollars to our enemies overseas. absolute insanity.

    c300man: i wish "we all know we have to employ all available energy sources and develop new and better ones." perhaps you can go to washington and clue congress and the administration in on this self-evident fact. there sure as hell aren't listening to me, and i have been bangin on em for 8 years now.
    2008 Nov 14 01:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    Fitzman,

    I agree with you 100% that there is huge gas reserves around the world and with the implementation the Pickens Plan in the USA.

    My concern is that most of world's natural gas supplies are controlled by very hostile nations like Russia, Qatar and Iran. They are talking about forming an "OPEC" like NG cartel. If they succeed they would make OPEC look like very tame in comparison.
    2008 Nov 14 02:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    in fact, it is at the rate of 19 lbs of CO2 per gallon of gasoline burned?
    a gallon of water weighs 8#'s, i suppose gas has similar density, so one gallon of gas weighs lets say 10 #, and when burned in an internal combustion engine, that produces 19 #'s of CO2???
    How could you possibly produce more CO2 by weight, than you consume in gasoline? dont forget, air is mostly N2 and some O2 and very little CO2 is naturally in air.
    I question how you get these figure?
    thanks for being accurate with your figures.
    2008 Nov 14 02:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    why don't we wait until oil hits $30 until we fill up.
    2008 Nov 14 03:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    longoil: well, there are huge reserves in the US as well. also, plz note my energy plan supports a trans-canadian pipeline to bring nat gas from alaska to the lower 48. at the same time, look how much nat gas new drilling techniques have brought online just in the last 3 years in the lower 48. put LNG terminals on both coasts and in the gulf, and we have enough nat gas to power cars and trucks for decades to come. i cannot say the same about oil. also please note my energy policy supports electric cars, which should be used by those in cities who drive less than 40 miles a day to and from work. bottom line is, we'll need every gasoline alternative.

    kreg: you must have missed the discussion on CO2 emissions the first time i explained it in this forum. the reason you can get 19 lbs of CO2 from a single gallon of gasoline (~6.3lbs) is because only the carbon (the "C" in CO2) comes from the gasoline. oxygen, the "O" in CO2, comes from the air via the intake manifold of the internal combustion engine. when gas burns, the carbon and hydrogen separate, the hydrogen combining with oxygen to form water. the carbon combines with oxygen to form CO2. carbon has an atomic weight of 12, oxygen has an atomic weight of 16 and CO2 therefore has an atomic weight of 44 (12 from carbon, 32 from oxygen). a gallon of gasoline is roughly 87% carbon and 13% hydrogen. therefore the amount of carbon in one gallon of gas is (6.3 x .87)=5.5lbs. to calculate the amount of CO2 produced by a gallon of gasoline, you multiply 5.5 x (44/12), which is over 19 lbs of CO2. you can check these figures out for yourselves, and since it IS science, the answer is a fact. so, you are welcome for being accurate with my figures. hopefully, now that bush is gone, science will be back in vogue. which is good, since i am an engineer.
    2008 Nov 14 03:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    where have all the POLS and PUNDITS gone with their sage advice.. their off pandering on new stuff of course. how short the memory span of the public. the mental sieves[brains?] have returned to their sports, games,and other consumptive activities; not to reappear 'tll the the "pump pain" returns.

    any one remember[read?] Huxley's "brave new world"?? any one see any relationship to that classic, with it's srtuctured classes, somma, and feelies?

    the solution to our dilemma is simple--

    provide free somma and feely passes
    with each "fuel fill" at the pump.


    signed: GERRY MANDER
    2008 Nov 14 08:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    It is only a matter of time before we HAVE TO get along on a lot less oil than today. This isn't a choice. We can wait for it to happen, or we can plan ahead. Either way, it's going to be difficult. Anyone who pretends otherwise is part of the problem.

    The single most effective strategy to start with is to reduce consumption, through conservation and efficiency. A gas tax (of more than 2 cents) would certainly help.
    2008 Nov 14 10:19 PM | Link | Reply
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    I enjoy your articles, Fitz. Just a small nit on this one- Chesapeake Energy's ticker symbol is CHK, not CHP.
    2008 Nov 14 11:16 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm getting so frustrated with every "Green" out there wanting to tax (steal) some industry or another and give that money to one they support. Whatever happened to good old fashioned Capitalism, Free Market enterprise, and American ingenuity?? Oh, that's right, these things that made America great are now evil. If you don't like something that is being offered in the market (ie. fossil fuel vehicles), then make something better that you do like. Quit crying about it. AND when you do finally build something better, don't sell out at the first $$$ you see - it will likely come from Big Oil or Detroit 3 that you are so mad at anyway.

    Okay, now that the rant is over, there is a very simple solution: end NAFTA. 70% - 80% (depending month to month) of imported foreign oil comes from Canada and Mexico, not the scary Middle East as we were brainwashed into thinking a decade ago. (notice how the rhetoric used to be oil from the Middle East, but now has changed to foreign oil. Most people have come to equate foreign oil with that from the Middle East) Along with many other wrongs, NAFTA subsidizes Big Oil.

    Now that we (America) have had the sticker shock of $4+ gasoline, and it is now heading below the $2 level, it is the perfect time to end the oil subsidy. It is already known that when fuel prices rise significantly, Americans scream for alternatives. Let them compete on even ground with no subsidies. It might be painful for a time, but the cream will rise to the top without taxpayers money. If you like one idea or another, you can then use your own money that wasn't stolen through taxation to invest.

    However, it will take significant risk, fortitude, and most importantly will power.

    As for the NG debate, every county in America has a stockpile of the stuff. Every landfill is a source of NG (Methane). Waste Management already uses NG powered trucks to collect trash in some states. CAT and DEERE are both working on their own versions of NG engines. Several emerging technologies are coming online to help speed up the break-down process converting refuse into fuel(s). There will soon be a day where landfills are mined for their resources.
    2008 Nov 15 12:22 AM | Link | Reply
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    Fitz, I agree this would be a great time to fill the Npr. Your gasoline tax of 2 cents a gallon plan has two holes: 1] it only yields an income of150m/year unless I calculated incorrectly. This is like the pimple on the back oy a hippopotamus when it comes to the funding required to achieve your stated goals. This is also two orders of magnitude less than Obama has proposed. As I commented on your last article, I believe that to achieve energy independence along the lines we both agree will take between 1 and 2 trillion over the ten years, Probably closer to 2trillion. This is why I believe that Obama's stated goal and his planned expenditure don't close. 2] A flow through of this money directly to the programs you suggest is a nice idea but I don't believe our Congress is capable,nor does it have the political will to set the process up. Look what has happened to the social security trust fund. The way things are now set up, the social security deductions we now pay are essentially another tax that finds its way to the general fund. The above said, I believe,If we as a country can commit 1 trillion to bailing out the financial services industry, we should be able to commit 1 to 2 trillion over the next 7 years to creating a domestic energy supply that is at least independent of Russia,Iran,Venezuela, most of the rest of the mid-east and the unstable parts of Africa. More than money is needed to solve the problem. National and political will is also needed.By the way as long as you shoot at the bankers, wall street manipulators the greedy corporation CEO'S, et all you should include those greedy hedge managers who earn 1b or more a year and pay at the marginal income tax rate of 15%. Last I looked hedge funds really don't produce product or jobs for the average family and I believe are a destabilizing factor in both the security and commodity markets. My view about gobal warming is there is more assertion than science in the discussion, but if it helps us to become independent of foreign hostile energy suppliers and to create new products and jobs for our citizens, fine.
    2008 Nov 15 11:47 AM | Link | Reply
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    Sorry Fitz I did micalculate. The above numbers should be about 1.5 b/yr for four 2cents/gallon tax and one order of magnitude less than Obama's plan. Otherwise I still hold to the above comments.
    2008 Nov 15 03:03 PM | Link | Reply
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    i'm back...

    fran: i read "brave new world" so long ago i cannot remember somma and feely passes...but i think i catch your drift.

    kunst: oh, i agree completely that we will, as you say, HAVE to get along with less. in addition, in my opinion, we face economic and social ruin if we don't prepare for this day, with a comprehensive, long-term, strategic energy policy:

    thefitzman.blogspot.co...

    certainly conservation and efficiency is a part of such a plan, and is stated in "STEP 2: Conservation" of my plan...after "STEP 1: Acknowledge the Problem", which is where i fear we will regress to now that oil has dropped (albeit short-term) under $60.

    CW Man: thanks for the kind words., thanks also for the typo correction. not sure if i did that or the SA editor, anyhow, most people that read my stuff know these energy symbols in their sleep.

    Third Party Guy: i hate labels..they are so unhelpful. but if you want to label me green, it is a label i wil be glad to wear. instead of "stealing" your tax dollars like Bush has been doing for the past 8 years, please note the tax i am recommended would bypass Congress and go directly to jobs and infrastructure to make America more energy dependent and KEEP our money at home rather than sending it to countries that hate us. if this is green, then it's green for MONEY, which will be staying HERE. what happened to free market capitalism and enterpreneurship? it died with the bush administration. the US is now totally Fascist, with a Kaptial "F". and i am not "crying" about it, i am trying to educate you because you obviously have fallen victim to the government and media so that you think only the gasoline powered car is sufficient for you. THINK MAN, THINK. Nafta is not the sole problem here. Mexican oil production is dropping rapidly due to depletion rates and lack of investment in infrastructure. Canada has high cost tar sands. do you really want the US to hang our future oil supply on that? get real dude. i am all for stopping the subsidies to oil companies and it is the first real point you have made. so, then, after banging me for trying to get nat gas solutions in place, you end with telling me how much US nat gas is available. i can't follow your logic at all.

    wizard: good point on the totals as i left out part of what is included in "STEP 3" of my energy policy, is that gasoline taxes increase over time. 2 cents this year, 4 next year, etc. now, according to my calculations, the US uses 390,000.000 gallons of gasoline per day (EIA data), which correlates to $7.8 million dollars a day of revenue, or, 2.8 billion dollars per year. that builds alot of natural gas infrastructure! also, this is not the only source of funds...gas guzzler taxes as well as income from natural gas taxes, etc. etc. we need to get creative. if we just took half of the money bush is spending in iraq and on the bailout, we wouldn't need iraqi oil and could buildout *everything*. we have to start somewhere.






    2008 Nov 15 07:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    Fitz, I agree we got to start somewhere and that is why I'm for kicking off specific projects with specific goals, sufficient funding, and near term milestones Going to the moon in ten years with a sufficient funding stream is my case in point. A special contracting agency was set up to make it happen that,though not entirely independent of the vagaries of congressional interference, was relatvely so. The goal was set at ten years and accomplished in eight. The effort spawned a set of products and manufacturing processes that we still lead the world in.The technologies required in that effort were not as mature as those required for energy independence. I won't argue the case of the efficacy of the Iraq war, but I will predict that if we don't make energy independence a number one priority, there will be more wars, soon, and the Iraq casualty numbers will pale in comparison. For my part instead of spending the rest of the 700b rescue package on the financial sevices sector, I'd put the funds into the programs I have suggested in comments to your last article. I would also like to know what those hedge fund ceo's did to earn their outlandish payouts. My guess is they played the fear in the country to sell the financials short and played the devaluation of the dollar like a fiddle. If It turns out that they manupulated the runs on investment banks, what would you say to my idea to ban hedge funds?
    2008 Nov 17 03:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    Fitzman:

    "...the tax i am recommended would bypass Congress and go directly to jobs and infrastructure to make America more energy dependent..." - I assume this is a typo and you meant to say independent.

    Perhaps you missed my pseudonym, but I am far from a victim of the government and media. I realized during the Clinton administration that Capitalism was being dissuaded, but I agree that the Bush administration has driven the nails in the coffin.

    And perhaps I put you too much on defense by lumping you in with "Greens" that you missed the point of my comment. Everything you are wanting to do, Infrastructure, solar, NAT vehicles by restoring the tariffs on oil. In you response to me you are correct that I don't want to pay the rising cost for depleting Mexican (truly worldwide) oil and expensive tar sand (and shale) from Canada. By restoring the tariffs on oil, which is another form of subsidy, and the price of oil rebounds to $100/ barrel, alternatives will be competitive without their own subsidy. As a taxpayer, I am tired of taking the risk through subsidies and other programs, while someone else reaps the benefits (or at least no loss).

    Further, I was not bashing you for wanting to get NAT solution, rather I was pointing out that there is already a foundation on which to build. Waste Management only uses NAT trucks where state/local laws mandate it. Imagine if every state mandated the refuse haulers were to use NAT trucks, how long would it take for the infrastructure to get in place? There would be a demand and some entrepreneur would jump at the opportunity.

    My point is we do not need any new taxes for your wish list to happen. Unnecessary taxation in thievery, and your idea is unnecessary. Further, I believe your idea, " put a $0.02/gallon "green tax" on gasoline with provision that this tax bypass Congress", would require a Constitutional Amendment. But why should we start following that outdated piece of paper now, because not following it has led us to unsound money, wars, exporting jobs, and corporate welfare (among other things) hasn't it?
    2008 Nov 17 05:33 PM | Link | Reply
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    wiz: i *absolutely* agree that hedge funds should be held to the same regulation (and tax policies) that mutual funds adhere to, including transparency, standard accounting practices, and disclosure. capitalism doesn't mean "complete de-regulation". in fact, anyone paying attention has learned that "complete de-regulation" has led to fascism.

    3rd party: yes on the typo, thanks. the foundation for natural gas powered transportation has been around for decades. it is simply a *policy* matter. nobody wants to pay any taxes, yet no one seems to understand that the deficit that bush has rung up are simply crushing and yet, we have absolutely nothing to show for it. my suggestion is a mere $0.02 tax, which no one will even notice now that gas has dropped below $2/gallon (from over $4...), and, the US and its people will actually GET something for it. i am certainly NOT in favor of doing anything unconsititutional...an... who has read me knows that i was in favor of impeaching bush in his first term for doing exactly that. i am afraid you took my words too literally. what i was proposing is for congress to pass legislation such that this tax is NOT thrown into some general spending fund, but is *specifically* tied to the expenditures that i itemized.
    2008 Nov 17 06:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    Fitz, I'm not necessarily against your gasoline tax proposal, but as I commented before, I have no confidence that the congress would partition the funds and apply them to a comprehensive energy independence program. If we can't keep the social security trust funds separate, what gives you the confidence that the Congress won't add this revenue to the general fund and use the funds to fund some other program, like universal pre-kindergarten.
    2008 Nov 18 09:39 AM | Link | Reply