Has Gold Become Correlated to the Stock Market? 10 comments
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I’ve been an avid collector of gold and silver coins and have been following their prices for years. Gold is supposed to have a negative correlation with the stock market. This year has proven otherwise. Of course, as we’ve seen repeatedly in the past, all asset classes correlate to the downside.
Gold which peaked at $1030/oz earlier this year, has been trading in the $700 range for a few months. There has been a flight to safety, which for most people means buying U.S. Treasuries. Indeed, the flight has been so large that it has pushed the yields down to absurdly low levels. The yield on the 3-month Treasury was almost zero at 0.4% and the 10 year is 3.52%. (The yield on the S&P 500 was 3.55% this week, higher than the 10 year Treasuries rate for the first time since 1958).
The way that demand affects interest rates is that as people clamor for T-bills, they push up the prices for these bonds. Since the bonds pay out a fixed interest rate, the effective yield (also called yield-to-maturity or YTM) drops. So it’s the demand for stability in the current globally volatile economic environment that is pushing up bond prices and pushing down yields to almost nothing.
On the flip side, prices for a product fall as the demand drops off. So we’d expect the decrease in demand for gold is the cause of its low price. However, there have been several news reports stating that demand for gold is 50% higher than it was last year. [Demand For Gold Hits A Record Even As Institutions Head For Exits (November 19th, 2008)]
The U.S. Government Mint had to suspend retail selling gold coins and silver eagles earlier this year, and the Perth Mint just announced suspending production of gold coins. So even though there is an increased demand for Gold, the prices haven’t been increasing proportionately. There have been several articles speculating on the reason for this.
According to The Disconnect Between Supply and Demand in Gold & Silver Markets (August 18th, 2008):
Obviously, enough people are willing to pay for gold and silver, at the previous $978 and $19.50 per troy ounce price, because the U.S. Mint could not source enough metal at those price, and had to suspend coin production.
This proves that people are more than willing to fork over, in whatever currency they are using, the previous prices for gold and silver, in such quantities, that a shortage was already existing, before the price collapse, especially in the silver market. It is true that people in poorer countries like India, might have back on their consumption.
But, while they were cutting back, demand and consumption of gold in North America, including Canada and the USA, was soaring. For example, before it suspended production of bullion coins, due to shortages, the U.S. Mint’s statistics show that it was printing 2.5 times as many gold coins, and almost 4 times as many silver bullion coins, this year, compared to last year. Gold and silver bullion, in bar form, was also flying off North American retail shelves.
Bottom line: Enough people were buying, when the price was high, to exhaust the supply. Basic economics says that, in a free market, this means the price must rise.
Seems like something's fishy in Denmark! The author further adds:
We have a disconnect between reality markets and fantasy markets. The COMEX and London Metals Exchange are fantasy markets controlled by the big bullion banks. They must be engaged in market manipulation, because nothing can explain a big price collapse, in the midst of widespread shortages and robust demand. A group of big financial institutions, deeply enmeshed in the global trading system, and heavily involved in the gold and silver market, must be deliberately inducing temporary panic, for their own purposes. These malevolent characters will eventually be able to buy back their short positions at low prices, and, possibly, also, even collect a significant long position.
I definitely think the prices are being manipulated, even though I’m not entirely sure why. One thing I do know is that you cannot manipulate prices indefinitely. Especially in the face of rising demand. Here’s an interesting snippet from the The Standard, Nov 14:
Hong Kong: The mainland is seriously considering a plan to diversify more of its massive foreign-exchange reserves into gold, a person familiar with the situation told The Standard.
China’s fears about the long-term viability of parking most of its reserves in US government bonds were triggered by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson’s US$700 billion (HK$5.46 trillion) bailout plan, which may make the US budget deficit balloon to well over US$1 trillion this fiscal year.
The United States holds 8,133.5 tonnes of gold reserves valued at US$188.23 billion. China holds gold reserves of just 600 tonnes, worth only US$13.89 billion.
Beijing’s reserves could easily go up to 3,000 to 4,000 tonnes, Tanrich Futures senior vice president Colleen Chow Yin-shan said.
That article was published last week when gold was trading under $720/oz. Since then, it's jumped to almost $800/oz, with most of the move occurring Friday.
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The bright green line is Friday’s movement. Gold moved from under $750 to nearly $800. Looks like gold has become strongly correlated to the stock market after all!
I think the price of gold will continue to rise over the long term. It’s just a matter of how long it takes.
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This article has 10 comments:
Lehman Brothers sold off more Gold ETF's in October than were sold in the entire year previous.
With more companies needing quick cash to meet debt payments, the down ward pressure on gold will continue. But there will be a turning point when all these assets are finally sold off
Adrian D.
world-gold-coin-prices...
Instead of that, you see this: stockcharts.com/h-sc/u...=$SPX:$GOLD&p=D&am...
With a 6-month range almost 50% wide, several 10%+ up and down days, a 34% drop in that time, and no clearly-defined trading range, I find it difficult to argue that holding stocks and holding gold offer similar returns. The proper way to price all assets is in gold. Over the last 6 months, gold has offered the same return it always does: zero. In that same time, stocks are down something like 1/3 and paper money (in the form of US dollars) is up about 10%. Don't those figures look a lot more like what you'd expect? A short squeeze in paper money has pushed its price higher. Stocks, a leveraged inverse play on paper money due to their financing needs, are lower by a larger amount. Seems perfectly reasonable, no?
Don't let the price of paper money deceive you into absurd conclusions about the markets. Price everything in gold and it will all make sense.
This guy has been so right on the money in his predictions that it's scary.
Take it for what it's worth. Check out his site:
www.europac.net/