Cramer Is Right about Ultrashort ETFs 29 comments
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I've been doing a lot of reading lately on the construction of the ProShares instruments and frankly have to agree with the criticism. We bought Ultrashort Financials (SKF) and Ultrashort Real Estate (SRS) back in August 2007. Despite the carnage of a lifetime, Ultrashort Financial has only appreciated from $90 to $120 in almost a year and a half - that's ridiculous. Ultrashort Real Estate is down by almost 50% from where I first bought it in August 2007! This is despite the underlying instruments it is shorting against falling by 30-80% in many cases. That's insult to injury - not only would you not have made money, you lost money if you "bought and hold".
So we nailed both of these theses yet have benefited very little. It is becoming very apparent that due to the rebalancing (daily) in these instruments, they are useless for almost anyone other than daytraders or people who hold them for 1-5 days. They are constructed poorly. Someone holding SRS or SKF should have been able to buy it in August 2007, go on a 15 month vacation to Tahiti, and be up 50-100%+ at this time. Instead you are down severely on one and up way below potential on the other? What's the point?
We are sort of stuck because I cannot short individual names in Marketocracy.com, so all I have are the short ETFs to provide downside exposure. (people trading in tax protected accounts, i.e. rollover IRAs - have the exact same issue since shorting is not allowed) They work great on the days the market falls off a cliff, but each day the market goes sideways, they basically act like an option - you get time decay. It is so much like an option you need it not only go in the right direction but in a set amount of time; that's terrible for a long term hedge.
It would be far superior to short against the index these instruments are betting against so that you can actually benefit over the long run. I'm not sure if the non "Ultra" (2x) instruments work the same way (the 1xs) - this is something I have to look at during the next week. With how poorly these 2x ETFs work, if the 1x ETFs (non Ultra) don't have the same weaknesses, for purposes of someone like me who uses them as a hedge and wants to hold them for more than 5 days, they might be a better choice.
On top of all that, they are like a mutual fund and today declared distributions... cripes.
- ProFunds Group, the world’s largest manager of short and leveraged funds,1 has announced fourth quarter income dividend distribution declarations for its ProShares ETFs. The firm expects dividend distributions for 52 of its 76 ETFs. Capital gain distributions for 35 of the firm’s ETFs were announced earlier today.
- Distributions reduce the net assets of each of the affected ETFs as of the close of business today and the ETFs will trade ex-dividend tomorrow. Each portfolio’s exposure to its benchmark index will be adjusted today to reflect this reduction in assets.
I will give Mr Cramer kudos on this one; aside from adding to the extraordinary volatility in markets (8 of the 10 most traded "stocks" in the past month have been these lousy ETFs as institutions use them as gambling chips), they are constructed so poorly that even if you are correct on a thesis, you still lose. That's pathetic.
Disclosure: Long Ultrashort Real Estate, Financials in fund; no personal position
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This article has 29 comments:
For longer periods of time, just short or short on margin for leverage. Period. Unless the market is a straight shot, which it never is. Yes, these are trading vehicles.
I find it interesting that Cramer is apparently ragging on these things and blaming them for the market volatility (and probably direction too I suppose). Investing 101: Know what it is you are buying.
I trade these often; but my point is over the long run they should be far higher today versus a year ago or 15 months ago.
I trade around a core positions due to the heavy volatility. The question now is whether its worth to even have a core position at all since they don't work for extended periods of time if the market is not moving heavily in the "right" direction.
and he made some very interesting points. He was making two arguments, however..not just one. The first I agree with..the second I don't.
The first argument is that these ETFs dodge the margin requirements that individual investors ave to contend with..a very valid and telling argument. It would appear that there is special treament of these investments and they definitely put the shorting on a beneficial footing it wouldn't otherwise enjoy.
The second argument is that these funds don't work..It's very hard to make that stick! I owned SRS at an entry of $70..sold it at $110..I can't imagine that anyone who held it at $200 or above (5-6!!! standard deviations above the norm) didn't have enough sense to sell
These vehicles are very useful..and I've made money on them all..However, they also have characteristics that I'm amazed the SEC didn't consider disqualifying.
Sounds to me like you benefited but feel the need to complain. I suggest you read the prospectus or short the IYR the next time you want a bearish position on real estate.
Cramer is a joke. He would use US Taxpayer funds to bailout every Wall Street loser who made bad bets on derivatives but he is complaining about ETF's - give me a break.
On Dec 23 05:23 PM Trader Mark wrote:
> User, I sold out of most of SRS in the $240s to $280s
>
> I trade these often; but my point is over the long run they should
> be far higher today versus a year ago or 15 months ago.
>
> I trade around a core positions due to the heavy volatility. The
> question now is whether its worth to even have a core position at
> all since they don't work for extended periods of time if the market
> is not moving heavily in the "right" direction.
Don't go MADOFF and get non-directionals!!!
I posted on another web-site something about a 119 SPY straddle in October and it BLEW up past 100% returns, but good point on indexes directly. Get rid of the dividends.
I have played SKF, DUG, EEV, and SRS and have never held any one of them for more than 5 days.
I look for oversold conditions on MACD, stochastics, with an elevated VIX that is rising, along with a few other conditions. The rebalancing overnight with accompanying gappage is tough to deal with.
Personally I think SRS should be the best one to trade in the first quarter of 2009, but we will have to see if these securities will get clamped down on by the SEC. Just take a number.
A small part of my IRA has turned into a casino and that is not what I intended.
Paul Tudor Jones said, "Losers average losers".
I always sell if it starts to head south, and let the winners run a bit with trailing stoppage. ETF's can trend a lot, so one has to make a pretty educated guess that it is and will continue to trend up.
Looking forward to more stable markets though, that's for sure.
Anyhow, buy commodities and enjoy life.
I was surprised that you invested in something you didnt understand.
while I agree that it would be nice to find an investment vehicle that gave you 2x or 3x the annual return of an index, that investment vehicle doesnt exist. Never has, probably never will.
They aim to give a return that is 2x the daily return and are pretty clear about that.
I've made a lot of money trading these and the 3x ETFs on a very short term basis. When I have held for the longer term, I have taken a beating.
It sounds like you have made some money - others have lost a lot of money by investing in investment vehicles they didnt understand.
why has no one mentioned anything / complained about the ultra-longs? wouldn't those create the same sort of volatility to the upside? no one will urge the sec to ban these, will they now?
cramer whines because his charitable trust has been squashed by the bear market. no mention of the ultra shorts in oct 07 was there? or the uptick rule? nope, no complaints when everything keeps going up.
i'd like to hear jimmy's take on the ultra-longs - he has never mentioned them has he.
please, all you cramer supporters, your boo-yahs have been transformed into boo-hoo-yahs.
stop looking for a scapegoat b/c you never sold when you could have. *never* blame the markets, they will eat your lunch if you don't accept full responsibility for investment / trading decisions.
Pity, too… shorting an ETF consisting mostly of Chinese financial and oil companies should have been a no-brainer, considering their wacky valuations circa 2007.
I say if you can't beat 'em, join em - irresponsible investing for the price of their heads is what I want, if you ever thought they'd treat you like a human being then you're the fool. Derive that.
Blanco-dee
I doubt there's much more we can get out of Trader Mark's blog other than he's a mark like ihnvestors in FXP,
he's "an experienced trader", which I judge from his profile means that he's just getting a clue too,
and to hell with the Chinese too, true capitalist liars in the business of over-leveraging everything, and lying about their own interests. If I make a single buck out of a short fund that benefits from their market rolling over, I'll have a great Christmas. Even if it takes until next year's,
BDO
www.cramerproject.com/...
-35% so far.....not very good.
Oh where have you gone Thomas Jefferson....
Take some ACCOUNTABILITY for your trading decisions. If you don't understand it, then don't trade it. At the same time, stop whining because someone else is smart enough to trade them profitably. SIMPLE....
- thanks!
I hope you will publish the results of your research. Many of us will be interested. Thanks!
On Jan 02 06:39 AM RDR wrote:
> "I'm not sure if the non "Ultra" (2x) instruments work the same way
> (the 1xs) - this is something I have to look at during the next week."
>
>
> I hope you will publish the results of your research. Many of us
> will be interested. Thanks!
On Dec 24 09:17 AM GatorTrader wrote:
> What a joke! Frankly, I am disappointed in Trader Mark and the rest
> of the posters (or should I say, "posers") who are whining about
> these leveraged ETFs. Typical crap - "We don't understand it so
> please let the Federalis regulate it more." What's next - "bail
> us out for our own losses and stupidity...."
>
> Oh where have you gone Thomas Jefferson....
>
> Take some ACCOUNTABILITY for your trading decisions. If you don't
> understand it, then don't trade it. At the same time, stop whining
> because someone else is smart enough to trade them profitably. SIMPLE....
DAILY means DAILY.