$60 a Barrel Oil in 2009? 21 comments
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Let's play a little parlor game. What is the likelihood that oil will average $60/barrel next year?
Pretty likely, right? In fact, that's the average forecast of 33 energy analysts surveyed recently by Bloomberg News. It sounds quite reasonable, given that oil was trading for $146/barrel just a few months ago.
OK, now here comes the fun part: What is the likelihood that oil prices will rise 53% next year from current levels?
Impossible, right? After all, we're facing global economic recession. Consumer confidence is the worst it's been in history, everybody is scaling back and OPEC can't cut supplies enough to keep pace. Heck, things are so bad they're using supertankers as floating storage tanks! There's no way oil's jumping 53% next year!
Except, of course, the two figures are identical. $60/barrel is a 53% increase from current levels.
So why do people think $60/barrel is so achievable? It must stem from the speculative pop that pushed oil prices above $140/barrel just a few months ago. $60/barrel oil seems downright cheap against that $146/barrel peak.
But put into more-realistic percentage terms, $60/barrel is a very optimistic scenario. Oil prices have only averaged above $60/barrel in seven of the past 60 years. Two of those seven years were in 2006 and 2007, but before that, oil hadn't averaged $60/barrel since 1983.
That's not to say that $60/barrel is out of the question. The markets have been so volatile that anything is possible.
But it's not a shoe-in. And don't let people hoodwink you with numbers into believing that it's so.
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> jack
So the forecasts are essentially implying a 100% rise between bottom to top during the year.
A nice trade.....
or, if not trade to $80, then trade above $60 for an extended period of time to offset the lower prices at the start of the year.
in play from geopolitical to hurricanes in the gulf to the condition of the economy to
the strength of the dollar...harder to predict the timing..summer?
Oil will return to $60 or even $70 by this summer.
Whats left of that 'perfect' storm without leverage? Without worldwide demand? And with oil tankers used for oversupplies, deep-sea exploration still advancing and money being spend to complete projects!?
There is going to be enough supply for 2009 keeping prices down. Speculation of the longs is off for now. The only issue surrounding oil and every other price for commidities out there is inflation. The Federal troublemaker.
IF monetary deflation is countered appropriately with the current FED policy of inflation. We will be seeing $60 dollar a barrel soon enough. Its has nothing to do with demand, only inflating its way out of indebtedness for 2009 if we ever see monetary velocity again this year.
Artificial prices or lets say; quantitive easing. Not for the benefit of us all, but for the benefit of the indebted. That means most of us...note me and not the (US) creditors.
Its a Keynesian story, and I hate it by now. It supplies us with ''phony profits" that actually don't make sence if you correct it for real inflation. Its all for the peace of mind. The easing of pain, the masking of government incompetence of the years. A weak solution for the problems we face in our capitalistic world. It should be forbidden, for the sake of responsibility.
Give me a new world of capitalism, based on gradual prosperity and minor social buffers. Give me a government, so small, it only serves for protection and necessary programs to gradual growth and long term policies for the better. Abandon progressive taxation, and tax every soul at 10 percent. Let capitalism grow out to normal risk taking, not excessive, thereby not growing the gap of the rich and poor. Make sure everybody keeps up. Excess money should be invested for the standards of living of all people, technology and environment. Forget the old American consuming of resources. Use wisely, live wisely and share our love competences with everyone around you for the better.
Until that moment happens, forget oil and buy gold/silver. The only values left in this world since the beginning of mankind.
brgds,
and Mellon are long dead and with them those fiscally sound beliefs..
I still think with regards to oil that we are in a process of evaluation..
as you say the leveraged boom is over...so now over the course of this
year we find the true value of a barrel is worth and adjust from there..
I look at resources as a necessity for humans...so my theory is tucked some shares under the mattress and keep it there a few years.
As far as gold and living "sustainably" agreed...but I don't see it happening
anytime soon...drive down the freeway, look at the size of yachts in the marinas...look at the salaries the Yankees just paid for ballplayers...
the "mirage" is still there...10-15 years before water and oil seriously impact the standard of living this country has been spoiled with.
gold or silver can be speculated like anything else...think Hunt Brothers..
I'll live or die with natural resources...the gift from mother earth..
Oil on the other hand is selling pretty much below cost right now. If it weren't for the effects of having too much oil in storage and a weak OPEC, whose members still need cash flow, we'd see higher prices right now. We will see $60 oil this year and probably spikes to $75.
jegan
I'm buying oil.
Neither alternative has short enough odds for me to wager on.
pull the trigger?....am I able to sleep at night?
where is Paul Simon when you need him...50 ways to play oil..
staying long for now and taking a nap next to my old Catskills pal..
Rip Van Winkle...more important things to do...worry about these
world affairs in a few years..feeling sleepy about now.
The current price of oil is not sustainable --- recession or no recession. In fact, it's dangerous. The cuts from OPEC were ignored for the most part so a new course of action has begun. Russia, which grew rich during the commodity boom, is already threatening to cut off supplies to Europe. Hamas and Hezbollah are funded by Iran. Coincidentally, Hamas began to lob missiles into Israel soon after OPEC cut and was ignored. The conflict in Gaza could easily boil over and spread throughout the region. There are lots of oil tankers sitting in the Strait of Hormuz that could be targeted, not to mention the Saudi oil fields. Does this scenario sound far-fetched? Maybe. Still, countries like Iran and Russia need oil prices to return to 75-85 dollar a barrel range to be profitable and fund their "social" programs. Mexico, Venezuela, and a host of other countries are in the same position.
Is a 53% rise possible? Of course it is. In fact, I believe that it's on the low side. Oil is going to hit that 75-85 dollar target this year and continue to go up in years to come.
Just as $147 was an overshoot, $42 is an undershoot.
Supply might temporarily exceed demand, but as economic conditions improve there will not be enough oil to quench the growing global demand. None of the non-conventional oil producers involved in deep sea oil and oil sands seem to be shelving their projects.
I find it very scary that incompetent run businesses like banks and auto mfg'ers feel they are entitleed to government bailouts, while well run oil companies who did not ask for bailouts when oil was in the $10 to $20 range prior to 2000, need to by punished by the Obama regime with proposed windfall taxes.
But I did see two statements that I belive are incorrect.
Jegan....... the homebuilders and the banks have not made a comeback yet. Especially considering none of the banks have paid back the Fed a dime yet and real estate prices are still falling.
longoil...... actually oilsands projects are being cancelled and delayed all over the place. But they are also renegotiating a lot of Capex contracts, made when demand was really high. This will only help oil prices more when demand comes back.