India Faces a Long Bear Market - Barron's 14 comments
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Down around 55% from its peak a year ago, India's stock market might look like a buy. Far from it, says Barron's. Facing both economic and political challenges, an Indian rebound won't happen anytime soon.
Despite the drop in India's benchmark Sensex, relative valuations remain high. The market's PE ratio, based on expected earnings for the next 12 months, is 60% higher than emerging markets as a group and 72% higher according to its price-to-book ratio. The roughly 2% yield on the Sensex doesn't hold a candle to regional markets offering upwards of 5%. And the 55% decline might not be the end of India's fall; Seshadri Sen, of Macquarie Capital Securities, warns that "it remains to be seen whether the markets have discounted all the bad news that is in store."
India's market cap overtook its GDP in May 2007. By January 2008, it had reached 180% of GDP, extraordinarily high compared to 131% for the U.S. during the dot-com boom and 150% for Japan at its market peak. In July, the market-cap ratio dropped below 100%. What this means is that thought the Indian economy is set to do well over the next two decades, GDP would have to more than double for market cap to return to its previous heights without being part of an equities bubble. If the economy keeps growing at 7.2%, that doubling would take at least ten years.
One of the biggest reasons for the market surge was foreign institutional investments. Since the start of 2008, foreigners have pulled back $20B from the market, according to data from the BSE. The index gained a stunning 200% between 2005 and early 2008 - gains like that are not often repeated. Even more reasonable gains are nowhere in sight. Ridham Desai, of Morgan Stanley, believes a new bull market is at least 15 months away. Desai says the Sensex will probably be down 11% at the end of 2009, but could see a drop of as much as 34%. (In a bullish scenario, Desai adds, the market could gain around 30%.)
According to Citigroup, India is more vulnerable than regional peers when it comes to external financing. Heavy current-account deficit and its debt repayments have hurt the outlook for the rupee, and the already-weakened currency leaves Indian firms that have borrowed overseas vulnerable.
Geopolitics plays a role too. Indians will choose a federal government this year, and must choose between the current party that voters have grown disenchanted with and its major contender which seems to lack a credible leader at the national level. Pakistan's economic crisis could cause investor unrest about the entire region.
If you're still set on investing in India, Barron's recommends picking cheap individual American depositary receipts of Indian companies, including those of Infosys (INFY) and ICICI Bank (IBN).
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This article has 14 comments:
And that bubble has been deflated.
But looking ahead, recognize India is different from other emerging markets in that its a intensely domestic focused economy and still a largely protected one.
Which means that what the shrewd investor needs to see is what is going on internally in India and whether the growth of 5-7% can be sustained.
That seems to be likely since inflation is coming down which means the govt can finally cut interest rates and spur growth. This is doubly beneficial for the ruling Congress party as the elections loom since inflation under 5% bodes well for them in retaining their rule which is extremely bullish for stocks.
India should maintain their 5-7% growth and that is key when compared to the rest of the world (apart from China) which will barely grow. Relatively speaking, investing in India through IBN, HDB, SLT or just a index fund like EPI / PIN would be good.
Every one knows what happened later.You don't even get an apology from them.
Granby is either a babe in the woods or part of an elaborate gameplan to prevent others from buying Indian stocks. In either case better to treat this article as weekend comedy entertainment.
By January 2010, indian stocks will be in another orbit and all the fundamentals are falling into place again already.
India and China are the only two large economies with decent GDP growth and by April 2009 these two markets should start their rallies again.
With interest rates going down and commodity prices at record lows , things cant be more obvious , can they be ?
All the zombie investment banks from the USA, Europe... want to desperately get into Indian stocks at sensex 7000 levels. Granby is either a babe in the woods who does not what she is talking or is spitting out a coached version about indian economy.
India is one of the few countries with a real decent GDP growth & with export to GDP ratio at 13% which is one of the lowest in the world.
With interest rates coming down and commodity prices at record lows, Indian stocks should be in another orbit by January 2009.
On Jan 04 10:25 AM HR wrote:
> Thanks to Granby honestly, for a good weekend comedy entertainment.
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> All the zombie investment banks from the USA, Europe... want to desperately
> get into Indian stocks at sensex 7000 levels. Granby is either a
> babe in the woods who does not what she is talking or is spitting
> out a coached version about indian economy.
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> India is one of the few countries with a real decent GDP growth &
> with export to GDP ratio at 13% which is one of the lowest in the
> world.
> With interest rates coming down and commodity prices at record lows,
> Indian stocks should be in another orbit by January 2009.
Note that a "prospect for transparency" is not the same as transparency, but at least the public can learn about issues at a Tata plant months before the first Nano is supposed to come off the assembly line, and a potential insider deal at Satyam gets printed. In China, you tend to learn about issues after thousands of children get sick.
American innovation and entrepreneurial is unique across in world and across history. It cannot be bought.
The downturn will puncture the myth of India knowledge competencies. Other then one campus of IIT, which may be the best university without a research department, India does not have a single University that would compare with an average state university in the US.
The World Knowledge Competitiveness Index (WKCI) from the Centre for International Competitiveness and the Global Competitiveness Report from the Institute for Strategy and Competitiveness founded by Micheal Porter rank India at the bottom in knowledge competitiveness.
A McKinsey global labor market study
concluded that only 10% of Chinese engineers and 25% of Indian engineers can compete in the global outsourcing arena.
www.expressindia.com/n...
A study done by Duke University on outsourcing found that the number of engineering graduates in India and China is vastly overestimated and traced the origins of this false information to organizations such as National Association of Software and Service Companies of India who often include technical trades such as auto and bicycles mechanics when estimating the number of engineering graduates in India.
www.soc.duke.edu/resou...
Links:
us.macmillan.com/thegl...
www.rediff.com/money/2...
www.isc.hbs.edu/
www.mckinsey.com/mgi/p...
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The truely wise and insightful investors don't write for profit, because they earn their money the old fashioned way.
Come on, Barron's! You can do better than this.
If you follow these guys , you will always enter at market tops and get out at market bottoms. Anyway this is what they want you to do.
On Jan 05 02:35 PM Adityaa wrote:
> Journalists, like investors, are prone to overreaction - when the
> markets are exploding, and when they are crashing. Fortunately for
> the astute, their advice is never timely, authentic or profitible.
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> The truely wise and insightful investors don't write for profit,
> because they earn their money the old fashioned way.
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> Come on, Barron's! You can do better than this.
one must study multiple study & then to come conclusion.
we have to see Obama effect now.
Indian market may go down but it will fast recover to todays point again