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In 'Is your recession really necessary?' the FT editors demonstrate their misunderstanding both of the errors in Keynes's delusions, and of the true value of the only economic analysis of business cycles that actually gets it right.
Keynes's idea, according to the article, is that
[g]overnments must respond [to signs of recession] by supporting demand with loosened monetary and fiscal policy. These weapons are slow-acting blunderbusses; they do not allow for rapid responses or fine-tuning. ... It is not possible to liquidate the malinvestment without risking allowing unemployment to spiral out of control and demand to fall with it. ... [G]overnments must work together, internationally, to sustain demand. They must not sit idly by.
On the other side of the issue, the article quotes the Austrian Ludwig von Mises as disagreeing:
[P]olicy that aimed to 'bolster up undertakings that would otherwise have succumbed to the crisis, and on the other hand to give an artificial stimulus to economic life by public works schemes ... eliminated just those forces which in previous times of depression have ... paved the way for recovery'.
The editorial critics dismiss the Austrians as "liquidationists," gloom-and-doomers who believe in the Biblical dictum that you reap what you sow. Economists like von Mises and von Hayek, they think, are no more than repressed social conservatives who confuse science with religion.
But the editors have misjudged two things: (1) the solidity of the Keynesian formula, and (2) the thrust of the Austrian argument.
The Keynesian formula advises attempting to "restore demand," something the Austrians think is futile, to wit impossible, and counterproductive. Sure, they say, you can find holes to fill and keep workers busy; but ultimately government spending drains the financial markets of the very capital that private enterprises will need in order to do a better and quicker job of recovery.
Too many factors influenced the confluence of events following the 1929 crash to enable either side to prove their argument. No one (except Ben Bernanke) pretends that he fully understands what happened. Who really knows how long the Great Depression would have lasted had legislators not imposed the Smoot-Hawley tariffs in 1930, or had Roosevelt not imposed the Keynesian-inspired New Deal in 1933?
But what is certain is that the effects of both the tariffs and the New Deal have been long-lasting and distinctly harmful. To be specific, the New Deal brought us (among other things):
- The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), backed now by our tax dollars, i.e. bailed out;
- The Federal Housing Administration [FHA], bailed out;
- The Tennessee Valley Authority [TVA], a government-owned power company that could have been privately created and owned just as well and with a lot less controversy;
- The public Social Security System, an unsound pay-as-you-go arrangement that is ready to go bankrupt within a few years;
- The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), the one that didn't catch Madoff (or much else for that matter) and that in fact lends Madoff and his ilk an aura of "Certified Okay by the U.S. Government";
- Fannie Mae, that led to Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae, and Sallie Mae, all bankrupt;
- An acceptance of the corrupting, embezzling, wealth-redistributing influence (in the wrong direction) of chronic inflation on our economy and, by extension, on the stability of our society;
- An expansion of the role of central bankers to the monetary and political power-brokers they are today; and last but not least,
- The abandonment of the gold standard, the most long-standing, underestimated, and maligned financial tool the world has ever known.
What positive things do we have to say about these entities and notions, about the results of their implementation, and about the place they occupy in our nation's economy? Of course, no one objects to the ideas behind them. After all, the purpose of each is laudable. Even Milton Friedman, the man behind the theory of a chronic two- to five-percent inflation rate, had good intentions, as did Keynes with his flippant relegation of the gold standard to the trash bin of outmoded relics.
But it's the format that is defective in each case. None of these implementations has gone through the refinement process that competition brings. And look where they have gotten us today.
The Austrians do not prescribe a bitter pill of unemployment and depression; they merely state the fact that recovery comes through liquidation of excess, and that this liquidation will take place no matter what the legislators and government agents do. Recovery will occur, not through a fiction of temporary occupational busywork, but through the natural cyclical nature of the business cycle. Government usurpation of the wherewithal to finance it will just slow it down.
Von Mises's understanding is not moralistic; it is simply realistic. And no amount of hysterical government grandstanding will change reality--although it can change people's perception of it, which is what the politicians want.
Our dear friend Keynes, consciously or not, played right into the hands of the big-government legislators who are always on the lookout for a new gimmick to impress the electorate. His formula for state spending is only a stopgap measure, something to keep our mind off our problems, while the system clears itself of past misallocations of resources and the politicians insure their own future.
And this time, it's state spending on a grand scale. The new administration plans to allocate almost a trillion debt-inflating-dollars to spend our way back to prosperity; and that's over and above the $700 billion already allocated by Congress, plus the additional billions created by the Federal Reserve to lend to financial institutions, to buy Ginnie's mortgages, and to purchase Treasuries. To put that into perspective, just the $700 billion we have already allocated for bailouts represents a check for $71,000 for each unemployed person in the nation.
If this latest business cycle goes the way of the 1930s, Keynes's ideas will survive this rebirth and reach their culmination in another flight from paper currency, just as they did in the 1970s. Then when prices and/ or bubbles begin to rise again and the central banks find they cannot control them, the Austrians will find favor once more--or so one hopes. This time, however, I doubt it will take 40 years.
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This article has 24 comments:
1) You address that neither ideas behind Keynes nor Von Mises works can be found to be other than laudable to attempt to address problems,
2) The realities of political execution of Keynes ideas into practice and its consequences along with your points of FDIC to the Abandonment of the Gold standard with its maligning and,
3)The bottom line that no matter how those rage against Von Mises's ideas including the FT, what von Mises points out irregardless still happens.
Powerful, concise, observant and reality based. Thank you. Your ideas are not only appreciated but will be referenced, cited and used.
Those who did realize this causative relationship and applied logic and reason to understanding the actual dynamics of the market are the ones who eventually find the Austrian School of thought and come to understand the impacts of gub'mint created distortions in markets.
Given that there are some pretty smart people who still adhere to Keynesianism, one must either presume they are either blindly dogmatic and don't let facts get in the way of their beliefs, or they realize what's going on and simply wish to maintain their power and control over the political process to their own benefit. Neiter case provides much in the way of comfort to the masses which suffer for their choice to continue meddling based on a disproven model.
As the author succintly puts it:
"Von Mises's understanding is not moralistic; it is simply realistic."
That's just the way it is. Get used to it. You're going to have to whether you like it or not. The changes that are coming are beyond the politician's control at this point. They can only make it worse.
Good article Katy! I knew there was a reason I added you to my watchlist. Glad I did now. Wear the scorn and ridicule this article is sure to generate with pride.
Then what label should we apply to a currency that has lost 95% of it's purchasing power since it was created? Soon enough it will lose 95% of what little purchasing power it has left.
A 'flexible' currency is no more useful than a flexible yardstick.
If someone offered to sell you 100 feet of rope for $20 but you knew that the definition of a 'foot' was "flexible", would you take the offer?
How would you feel to discover that the rope was shorter than your arm and the person who sold it to you told you "It's OK. I'm using a flexible yardstick"?
The whole point of money is to provide a stable means of storing value so you can exchange it for other items. If the value of money is not fixed and in fact is continually reduced by people you won't ever meet, doesn't that greatly reduce its usefulness?
If not, then why was the hyperinflation in Weimar Germany a bad thing? The were just being incredibly 'flexible' with their money. Same goes for Zimbabwe today, a highly 'flexible' monetary system there. So flexible that nobody wants to hang on to money any longer than they have to for fear that it will literally be worthless tomorrow.
That seems like a great way to run a country. NOT.
All gub'mint projects benefit somebody. The question is who gets the benefit and who pays the tab? It's extremely rare that the party which pays the tab is the one that benefits, and if so, to an extent equal to or greater than the cost they pay.
Your premise is correct, it is difficult to point at a gub'mint project which is economically viable. If it were, a private business would be earning money at it. The fact that there aren't private businesses undertaking the project is usually the reason that the gub'mint gets involved in the first place.
In general, the gub'mint usually only considers economically unviable projects in the first place, so it isn't a big surprise to see them turn into a big waste of taxpayer money.
I see Keynesian policies as a political rather than an economic choice. 'The General Theory' mapped a strategy for getting out of an extant depression in which double-digit GDP shrinkage and very high levels of unemployment were already being experienced. At least as I read it, there was no suggestion that economic cycles could or should be smoothed and fine-tuned using the suggested tools. The myth says otherwise, of course, and politicians (together with those who benefit from their spending of our money) work the myth rather than the actual theory.
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For happy decades Keynes was on the bottom and everyone agreed deficits are bad. Now Keynes has arisen and deficits are 'necessary'. When Keynesian policies are once again proven to not work, the business cycle theories cycle will cycle him back down to the bottom and Austrian creative destruction will once again rule the airwaves, until the next cycle when Keynes will be resurrected again and dragged triumphantly through the streets of MSM.
Sorry, I had a rough day and I'm feeling a little giddy.
"...understanding is not moralistic; it is simply realistic. And no amount of hysterical government grandstanding will change reality--although it can change people's perception of it, which is what the politicians want."
Seeming is not being. We get confused, often by choice.
Smarty_Pants - "The question is who gets the benefit and who pays the tab?" Spot on. Read Marcus Aurelius. Analysis of who gets & who pays clears the view of many situations, but government, almost by definition, is about getting one or several societal subsets to transfer assets, in the broadest sense including wealth, labour, sex, focus, etc., to another, preferably smaller subset. Sometimes an election or revolution changes the direction of transfer, but more often just shuffles the individuals within a subset.
Giving the banks money to loan us who do no longer have jobs was the perfect way to do it wrong.
But after bringing myself somewhat up to speed on this current economic mess, I can only conclude that most of us see "it" coming, but are powerless to do anything about it...
I don't think it’s not that we don’t want to change, it's just that we can't.
Bringing about an economic change in the way we do business (ie the Federal Reserve) would involve life changing events for all of us and social / economic holocausts that would be unimaginable. Even tho it is unavoidable… nobody wants to be blamed for causing such pain… even tho that’s what it’s going to take….
I’m a retired military aviator, and economically I feel like I’m a passenger on an aircraft with idiots at the controls… (and those idiots at the controls are the only ones with parachutes)
….. Excuse me….. I think I’m getting airsick
Er, well, except that starting in the later 1930s, hysterical grandstanding by government figures really did change reality. Seems to me that even the worst evils put forth by the Keynsians - the FDIC, social security, SEC, etc. - are preferable to the alternatives: fascism (which, to the extent that it had an economic ideology, adapted Austrian school concepts) and socialism.
@donzelion: I dont know, people throw fascism (among other labels) around and i havent seen a very good definition (sorta like people throwing "liberty" and "democracy" around). I've seen it written that Roosevelt and the New Deal was fascist (wiki has some cliffs notes on the controversy; folks forget about the NRA, etc). <shrug> i think the institutions speak for themselves regardless of how you want to label them. Social Security was a very badly thought out institution. Its a "ponsey" scheme and its a few steps away from the government telling everyone to have more children for the state.
I suggest folks do some homework. Go read "Economics in one Lesson","America's Great Depression" and to round things out "SuperCapitalism", they are even in audio book format.
The application of Keynesian theory over the past 95 years (since FED was founded) have resulted in a fascist economic system today:
"Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it." - The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics
Anyone who believes that private property isn't being 'required' to be used in "the national interest" in our country today hasn't been paying attention.
Examples abound:
Try building a house on a lot where a snail-darter is known to live.
Can't, your property rights have been rescinded "in the national interest".
Try starting a business that is judged by a bureaucrat to have an adverse impact on the ecology. Can't, your property rights have been rescinded "in the national interest".
Try driving without your seatbelt on. You'll be ticketed "in the national interest".
Try not registering for the draft when you turn 18. You may be prosecuted and fined up to $250,000 and/or serve up to five years in prison, "in the national interest". Because as we all know, you may own your body, but the gub'mint has first claim on its use.
The US has evolved into a mild fascist country already. The gub'mint is presumed to have first claim on everything and we are 'allowed' to own and use property only where the gub'mint doesn't object.
This is an extreme opposite to Austrian Economics which rests on absolute personal property rights to utilize your 'stuff' any way you see fit so long as you do no harm to others. After all, it's YOUR stuff.
Without private ownership and absolute property rights, you can't have a truely free market, which Austrian's claim is the best way to improve standards of living for society as a whole.
I have little to argue with your points, but the "gub'mint" comments complete detract from the weight and believability of your argument.
I use that spelling on purpose and it is a term of disdain, not humor. I actually use 'government' when discussing foreign countries, but since our political structure is full of arrogant, self-interested, crooked, lying scoundrels whose main goal is to exercise power over us 'commoners' for their own enrichment and benefit, then they do not deserve the respect that calling them 'government' would bestow.
While I'm sure there are many fine and upstanding people who hold positions in the government (Ron Paul comes to mind), they are in the vast minority. I regret the fact that such people might be painted with my wide brush, but their unpopular and moral acts of resistance are swamped by the remaining crowd of opportunistic hooligans.
If it helps you to visualize, imagine I am spitting in disgust every time I use the word "gub'mint" (ptui!).
If the day ever comes when, as a whole, they should deserve the respect that their offices should receive, I will gladly revert to using 'government' as a general reference.
As an aside, I could be calling them by a lot worse names but there is no need to sink to that level.
"Madison, agreeing with the journal of the convention, records that the grant of power to emit bills of credit was refused by a majority of more than four to one. The evidence is perfect; no power to emit paper money was granted to the legislature of the United States." - George Bancroft (1800 - 1891)
“We are in danger of being overwhelmed with irredeemable paper, mere paper, representing not gold nor silver; no sir, representing nothing but broken promises, bad faith, bankrupt corporations, cheated creditors and a ruined people.” - Daniel Webster, (1782 - 1852)
"Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice." - George Washington, (1732-1799)
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value - zero." - Voltaire, (1694 - 1778)
The cause of our current 'crisis' was known and understood more than 200 years ago. Unfortunately that didn't stop it from recurring yet again.
What percentage of our population (or of Congress) do you suppose knows that 330 years ago Voltaire predicted our eventual fate?