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No, not all at once. I will be looking for action, trying to figure out trend. But sell I will.
I've been holding Apple (AAPL) since 1999. My greatest pick ever. I started having some doubts last May, which I wrote about here. Those reasons are still valid. Apple is becoming almost mainstream in computers, The iPod is so mainstream it's hard to see any growth there.
Of course, Apple is a great company. It has great products and a religious following among customers. It has a great balance sheet: $25 billion of cash and short term investments is a nice pile to have, especially now, when cash is king.
But there is one problem with Apple which is becoming way too important. Steve Jobs is Apple. Without Steve, this would be a completely different company. There will be nobody to say about a new product, "There is no sex in it!". There will be no end of so-so products which will be released just because it's Christmas, or MacWorld, or something else.
Steve is seriously ill. I wish him a fast recovery and excellent health, I wish him a long and happy life. I hope he spends more time at Apple torturing developers and bringing great products to us.
But I don't invest on hope. The health of Steve Jobs is not a private matter, not when he is the soul of Apple. We never had good information since his cancer scare. Jim Cramer says that accounting irregularities mean "sell". I say that any information irregularities mean "sell". I am selling at least half of my position on Thursday. Remaining part will be sold depending on action, but no later than May.
I always claim the right to be wrong. I can be wrong about Apple. The company can stay great without Steve. Maybe. If I see something to change my opinion, I will buy Apple back.
Full disclosure: At the time of publication author had a long position in AAPL. Positions can change any time.
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You mentioned that the market has become saturated with Apple products, but if you are arguing that, Alex, then one can also argue that Steve Jobs can't really do anything else either in this market since its so saturated already, which leads to the conclusion that Apple is no longer growing as fast, Jobs or no Jobs.
And consequently, you could say the same about Berkshire when Buffett reaches an old enough age to pass away. Will the company dismantle? No, of course not.
There's a reason they call it succession planning. As much hope and "sex" Jobs put into Apple, I'm sure that he HIMSELF will ensure that the people he leaves in charge will be able to maintain the "sex" in Apple.
Here we sit, in 2009, and OS X is the most capable AND the most usable OS on the planet, by a wide margin. the LINUX world remains fragmented. And MSFT has STILL, after over 20 years FAILED to make the upgrade to UNIX. Further, MSFT can't break the law s flagrantly as it once did, due to its antitrust bruises. And it is run by an ignorant jack*ss. I'd say AAPL has picked up a lot of momentum. And Job's choice of Cook indicates he thinks he's coming back.
On Jan 15 08:08 AM captainccs wrote:
> Apple is Jobs. Remember Apple under Scully and Amelio? By-the-numbers
executives
> can't run an innovative company like Apple.
I guess you think everyone at Apple is going to just quit working because Steve isn't there? If anything, I think this will make them work harder to prove people like you are wrong. People who have no idea about technology, for instance. Apple is so close to owing the entire enchilada, it's not even funny.
All of this subjectivity aside, Apple is trading at approximately $50 per share net of cash. The iPhone is a giant annuity for the company, delivering an additional $2 or so of free cash every quarter. I daresay that were the economy not so troubled, Apple would be trading at a much, much higher price. The company had the bad luck to introduce one of the most innovative products in history just before the onset of the worst economic shock since the Depression. Ipod sales may have flatlined, but the iPod Touch, with it far greater profit margin, is now an ever-increasing percentage of those sales, meaning that the company is making more money in selling the same number of units. At it's current price, Apple gets no credit from the investor community for the iPhone or the cash that the iPhone has generated for the company. Ridiculous.
Take a quick survey. Almost every family I talk to had someone get an Apple gift of some sort, with the iPhone and iPod Touch being the most frequently mentioned.
Alex, if you want to sell at this price, fine. Not me. I am buying LEAPS. Since I am not so prescient as to know exactly when Apple will regain favor with investors, I am buying myself some time. But I am buying here, not selling.
On Jan 15 10:31 AM brewer wrote:
> How cheap are you wanting to unload your shares after you so stupidly
> did not sell at 202? You didn't sell at $200, so now you think
> it's a good idea to sell at 80? Good one! This company has the
> earnings in the bank already, on deferred iPhone revenue. And the
> pickup rate on it's new devices is literally out of the ballpark.
>
>
If you read my blog, you'd know that I sold some at 175 and 190. You are always welcome to bet against me, I report all my trades in my blog.
> I guess you think everyone at Apple is going to just quit working
> because Steve isn't there? If anything, I think this will make
> them work harder to prove people like you are wrong. People who
> have no idea about technology, for instance. Apple is so close
> to owing the entire enchilada, it's not even funny.
>
On Jan 15 10:52 AM Alex Filonov wrote:
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> On Jan 15 10:31 AM brewer wrote:
Cramer didn't say "Apple accounting irregularities" mean you can't own Apple; it was SJ's health. And that's only because Cramer is all about short term trading, not insight or value.
Maybe Apple domestic growth rate will soften, even though there's plenty of space to grow. But Apple has its past five years domestic growth still ahead of it internationally.
Finally, the fact that you may have bought your AAPL cheaply years ago is completely irrelevant to the wisdom of selling at this point, so why mention it?
One datapoint I haven't seen here yet is the fact that an Apple prod dev exec, Jon Rubenstein, is now over at Palm, who just scored huge buzz at CES with their new Pre. (See blogs.eweek.com/applew... for details). Basically an iPhone with a keypad that corporate types can actually use. It's not his fault they are stuck on the Sprint network - he just came over and drove the release of Palm's best product in years. Might save the company. He supposedly was behind AAPL's main products during the resurgence. Who's doing that job at AAPL now?
They already lost the head of prod dev, now potentially SJ? Are you sure the product pipeline will continue to wow beyond what they already had in place, especially at current price/margin levels? Worth considering as you look around for long-term growth investment options...
Now isn't the time to sell any stocks.
Yes, it's that bad.