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At its current price of $33.52/barrel, oil has moved below its closing low of $33.87 on December 19th. Along with acting as an effective tax cut for US consumers, at least oil's decline is also causing a severe about face for a dictator who hates the US. With a few more months of declines, oil could end up getting rid of the all of the leaders of oil-rich countries that dislike the US as their people revolt. Who would have thought oil could be such a key ally of the US!
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Yes, Venezuela, Iran, and Russia do benefit from higher oil prices, but so do key allies like the UK and Norway, and not to mention Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, the UAE and Oman, all of whom happen to be major creditors to the US and important investors in our economy, especially banking and real-estate. Should their oil revenues significantly decline, we would lose a major source of cash flow into our economy, and this will not be offset by gasoline savings to drivers.
I would also add that lower oil prices also means less money flowing through the Middle East and less remittances to non-oil producing Middle Eastern countries as well as Africa and Southeast Asia. This means more economic and social instability, and spurring militancy and chaos that threaten US interests. It also means declining trade and globalization, which despite their drawbacks, have resulted in more open and freer societies, the empowerment of lower classes, and vast advances in education and innovation.
The other facet that makes the argument presented plain silly is well-known - low oil prices are a poor consumer incentive and a long-term detriment to the US economy. We need to wane Americans away from their inefficient vehicles and lifestyle habits. We need to expand mass transit and improve urban efficiency, thereby boosting productivity, enhancing urban life and culture while also creating employment. We also need to justify the costs of renewable energy development, one of the few tangible areas from which we can create economic activity and promote innovation, while addressing the growing global warming concern.
Higher oil prices are good for global society and economy so long as there is some sensible regulation in place to prevent speculation-driven bubbles. As for belligerent nations benefiting, this is something that should be addressed with strong diplomacy and international cooperation.
alternative energy...all for it.
Not in favor of massive bubbles and speculation..so high prices really benefit who? not the driver or the consumer..would prefer to see price controls to
create stability to consumers and propucers..$40-$50 barrel?
That said we are likely headed via the scenic route towards depression...
long term style...say 15-20 years...so oil and virtually every asset class may
see prices unimaginable...be careful 2010-2011...perfect storm is here..
credit bubble...demographic bubble...multi asset bubble..stay liquid...
hopefully we get a counter rally in here for 6 months soon....real estate
and stocks will take years to reach 05-07 levels...
Here's a link to Norman's site:
theoilcard.com/
Here's a link to the page on Amazon where his book can be bought for about $10:
www.amazon.com/s/ref=n...
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Higher oil prices are good for global society and economy so long as there is some sensible regulation in place to prevent speculation-driven bubbles. As for belligerent nations benefiting, this is something that should be addressed with strong diplomacy and international cooperation.
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Oil went up about 500% at its peak the last couple of years. Or did you not notice? Its obscene run-up was a major contributor to tipping the USA into recession and possible depression; remember the 1970's Arab oil embargo?
Yes those Arabs that are now, supposedly, our "good" friends put a choke hold on the USA in the 1970's. I don't know about you, but I clearly remember the long lines, 2-3 hours, just to gas up, and this after going according to your assigned date. Yes, the Arabs didn't give a ___ then, so now we're supposed to care about their welfare because oil is reflecting, finally, real market demand?
I don't think so...
"I fully expect by the end of the month we'll see a major flare-up over Iran (Israel bombing) because the headlines are starting to fill with possible 'justifications' and 'leading indicators'. I mean beyond the US just sending 6-million pounds of arms to Israel. There's a void/window between administrations, of course...which would avoid placing blame on the outgoing or incoming for giving 'the nod'.
By the way, let's pencil something out: A ship making 20 miles per hour, leaving from the US this week would arrive in Israel when? Call it 6,200 miles, divided by 20 MPH gives us 310 hours of steaming time (OK, dieseling time, but don't be so picky). About 13-days. If the goodies had left middle of last week, they'd be offloading just in time for the 'dark of the moon' - ideal timing for an attack - on the cusp of 'change at the helm' of the U.S."
www.urbansurvival.com/...
So while (temporary) low oil might effectively be a tax break for the rich; it may be a relief from the "oil curse". Using the term "dictators who dislike the US" seems antithetical to sensible discourse about geopolitics and the cause/effect of oil price.
> jack
I've seen a couple of interview with the leaders of oil rich countries in the Middle East on CNN or something, and I somehow suspect that if men as smart as those gentlemen were calling the shots in the US, The Republic would be in pretty good shape today.
and how long and how much are we to pay to justify these boondoggles?
Is not part of the reason we are in this financial mess, is that we chased "windmills" in housing, consumerism, and government spending?
Let the market decide winners and science, GW.
Brent is now $10 a barrel more expensive than Texas Intermediate.
All this say is that it is America that cannot afford it. Not Saudi cannot produce it.
All that will happen is that much of the surplus oil will be diverted to India and China.
Will America ever be able to afford the same proportion of the World's resources again?
I would say, that it doesn't look like it.
The charge infuriates Dr. Etemad. "With the Shah, we also came to the conclusion that Iran was in great need of nuclear energy because our population was steadily growing and our gas and oil will run out. That's why even though I was in the old regime, I should be fair to the new regime because they are following the same line.
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Friday September 5, 2008 07:56
Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:32:58 GMT Currently suffering from electricity shortage, Iran has been forced to adopt a rationing program by scheduling power outages - of up to two hours a day - across both urban and rural areas in the country. "
Iran and the US both need to address possible future electricity shortages.
Bombing Iran nuclear electric power development sites is likely a BAD idea which could possibly lead to WWIII.
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