Are You Kidding? CBO's Laughable TARP Claims 13 comments
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The Congressional Budget Office has released its first statutory report on transactions under the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP). It appears the government managed to spend $247 billion in cash under TARP through December 31st. But this is not Washington’s only “accomplishment.” The bureaucrats score major points for creativity as well. Consider CBO’s attempt to portray more than $180 billion of the bailout as something other than a subsidy:
[TARP] transactions totaled $247 billion. Valuing those assets using procedures similar to those specified in the Federal Credit Reform Act (FCRA), but adjusting for market risk as specified in the EESA, CBO estimates that the subsidy cost of those transactions (broadly speaking, the difference between what the Treasury paid for the investments or lent to the firms and the market value of those transactions) amounts to $64 billion.
As the following table shows, the CBO claims that only about $5 billion of the $20 billion it gave to Citigroup was a subsidy. Even more stunningly, of the $178 billion the government has given away to 214 different institutions, only $32 billion is considered a subsidy. The other $146 billion is “market value.” Of course, if the latter amount really reflected the fair market value of what the government received in exchange for its cash, those 200+ institutions would not have needed a government bailout in the first place.
Here is the CBO’s accounting:
Not only is the CBO’s accounting tortured, but it is also rather “high level.” The CBO provides no detail behind the estimates shown above. We wonder why.
One thing appears certain: If the CBO can declare that more than $180 billion of the government’s $247 billion spent in TARP funds is not a subsidy, there is little reason to believe the government will not keep spending at a furious pace. After all, it can count on the CBO to keep supplying some of the world’s most creative accountants.
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This gives a whole new meaning to the saying of that much revered economist - "In the long run we're all dead".
Their lips are moving ( or in this case their fingers are typing) THEREFORE they are lying.
What else is new?
Buy gold and forget about this nonsense.
Oh and I guess you could keep 3 months worth of food on hand, buy a shotgun to defend it (AND a LOT of shotgun shells) AND pray!
Most of our banks are insolvent or would be without TARP.
There have been 100's of TRILLIONS of dollars of derivitives produced over the last decade.
They have now evaporated. And the top 20 banks in this country have what....8-11 trillion in assets?
How much of those assest are real? And even if they were all real how can 8-11 trillion stand up to 100's of TRILLIONS of lost paper?
In fact the net worth of all the world's stock markets is @80 trillion. And a good chunk of that valuation was in fake derivitives.
That's why TARP will continue all year long until someone in government finally decides to level with everyone and call a spade a spade......
It's NATIONALIZATION OR BROKE IN 2009
Didn't you know, giving food to poor people is not a "subsidy" but an investment? Handing out houses is a "troubled asset program"?
The problem with numbers this large is that the most asinine expenditures will generate some sort of positive impact no matter what. Say the government spent $2500 to provide every American with a one-week vacation in Disneyland. End of a year, we'd have made a massive "investment" in tourism industries, travel infrastructures, maintenance, entertainment, etc. - and Congress could boast about creating tens of thousands of jobs.
The disturbing aspect of the program to date is that while bank-to-bank credit has eased, credit market for businesses and individuals has actually tightened. Apparently, the Obama Administration intends on leaning hard on banks to reverse this trend, and this is needed.
If you are looking for giant financial sucking sounds, you might look at the stimulus package. While it may create some stimulus, it will raise significantly the deficit and unlike the TARP will not be repaid directly by its recipients.
"I just read the CBO report and find it pretty credible. The author above and the various commenters apparently do not understand that these TARP funds are not a gift, but loans with interest bearing notes (preferred stock) that must be paid in full -- unless, of course the recipient falls into bankrupcy."
Since there is no transparency in any of the institutions that have received TARP funds, it's a safe bet to assume that many, if not most, of these institutions are actually already bankrupt or will be shortly. When BofA, Citi, AIG are finally destroyed by this financial climate, the government will not be paid interest on these TARP loans and will only be repaid whatever capital can be recovered by auctioning off the carcasses of these banks... which will be worthless.
When the government profits from the TARP program, I will join you in following Santa's flight through the night, as my faith will have been restored!
God bless us every one.
Have these questions been raised in the current TARP discussion? They either have and their consequences been ignored or they are in progress of being discussed.
1. Should TARP funds be utilised to acquire other companies?
2. Ultimately, are TARP funds stimulating the markets or the economy?
3. Should TARP funds be restricted from creating company stock buy backs?
4. Should Board of Directors, Executive Management and related parties and entities disclose their share positions prior to TARP funding and post TARP distributions or should TARP restrict share activity all together by BOAD and executive management?
5. Should there be a seperate TARP related fund to deal with market related equity positions on behalf of the TARP recipients and a seperate TARP bailout fund for "operational related"( actually lending to businesses,etc. street funding) activities?
6. Should the purpose of use for the TARP funds be disclosed explicitly and directly as in covenants created during a vc, mezzanine or any other venture or should this loan constitute no interference?
I sincerely hope these questions are being raised and discussed.