Chen Lin Places His Bets On Self-Financing Producers

Includes: AXU, EMXX
by: The Gold Report

The tough financing markets of the past few years have taken their toll on many junior resource companies, as continuing needs for capital have led to dilution and lower stock prices. In this tricky environment, Chen Lin likes to place his bets on companies that can minimize dilution through internal cash flow that helps to finance expansion and exploration activities. Lin writes the investing newsletter, What Is Chen Buying? What Is Chen Selling? In this interview with The Gold Report, Lin talks about how he has played the difficult market in 2012, and where he sees some of the best opportunities in 2013.

The Gold Report: We are already into February, and the gold market doesn't seem to want to do what most people have been predicting. Why has it been acting so poorly over the past few months?

Chen Lin: That's a good question. Nothing goes up in a straight line, and 2013 could be a difficult year for gold. Recently, Goldman Sachs predicted that gold will peak this year and then go down to $1,200/ounce [oz] in a few years. That could shake a lot of weak hands, so I won't be surprised to see some selling this year, especially because gold's seasonal peak is around Chinese New Year at the beginning of February.

TGR: Are you expecting a little bounce off of the bottom that we've been seeing for the last few weeks?

CL: It's hard to say. Right now, money is going to risky assets, exactly opposite of 2008. Money is rushing into financials with banks showing record earnings. In the meantime, funds heavily invested in gold are not doing well. They could be facing redemptions, management changes and other issues. So 2013 could be difficult.

TGR: So what's your feeling about silver? Do you think it will perform better than gold?

CL: I'm quite bullish on silver. I think the industrial usage of silver could play a key role. About one month ago, I told my subscribers to pay attention to miners with base or industrial metal products. Last week, Don Coxe, the highly respected analyst, advised to swap some gold equities to base metal equities. That actually confirmed my vision. I see metals with industrial applications, like silver, platinum and base metals, doing better than gold in 2013. Platinum has already started trading at a premium to gold after years at a discount, and I expect silver to do well also.

TGR: Is that because there's more optimism for industrial recovery worldwide and therefore, better demand for most metals?

CL: Yes, but over the long run, I still firmly believe that gold will do extremely well. Every central bank is trying to manipulate and weaken its currency, and the situation is getting worse every day. The Japanese yen has weakened a lot, and many other countries are already complaining about that. At the end of the day, gold is the only strong currency left. It may go through some weakness in the near term, but the long-term future of gold looks very bright to me.

TGR: Well, 2012 wasn't a great year for precious metals stocks in general. How did your portfolio do, and what were your best performers?

CL: I would say I had a pretty good 2012. Ironically, my success was mainly because I was underweighting gold miners during most of 2012. My big winners were in energy and biotech stocks that I discussed in The Energy Report and The Life Sciences Report. My success in gold and silver mining was mostly from short-term trading, similar to 2011. My biggest winner was buying gold, silver and platinum miner call options a few weeks before the quantitative easing 3 [QE3] announcement, and then selling on the announcement. I also had a big winner in platinum futures on the same day that the South African police started to shoot the miners, which was a turning point for platinum, and I was fortunate to catch the bottom and then ride the wave up.

TGR: Basically, you had to play the short-term moves and make bets on certain events happening, and then take your profits as soon as you could.

CL: It was a very tough year for the miners; you would lose a lot of money if you played buy and hold. You have to be prepared for the opportunity when events arise. I saw what happened in South Africa and reacted on the same day, and I told my subscribers to do the same.

TGR: What have you been looking at recently that you're excited about and think has some good upside potential?

CL: One interesting company is Ivanplats Ltd. It is looking at one of the most significant platinum discoveries in human history. The project is run by Robert Friedland, and is basically a spinoff from the former Ivanhoe Mines Ltd. It has a new platinum group metals [PGM] discovery in South Africa, which according to Friedland, is so large that it could wipe out the whole PGM mining industry in South Africa and take over the world. This deposit is only 20-30 meters [m] deep, and has very rich nickel and copper byproducts that can produce platinum, palladium and gold at negative costs. A typical South African PGM mine has veins only about 1m thick, which are very deep and very hard to mine.

Ivanplats' discovery can potentially change the whole industry. The size of the deposit, according to Friedland's presentation, could be well over 100 million ounces [Moz]. His plan is to announce the NI 43-101 resource on February 5, and that's why I have been accumulating ahead of his announcement.

TGR: How did Ivanplats happen to discover this deposit that nobody else had found?

CL: Robert Friedland acquired the property, and then he used his own money to explore it over the past 10 years. Ivanplats recently held its initial public offering. The Japanese invested $290 million [M] for 10% of the company before the discovery last year, so that values the deposit at $2.9 billion [B], way above the current market cap, which also makes it look very interesting ahead of the major announcement February 5.

TGR: And where's Ivanplats selling now?

CL: It's selling at about $4.80/share, so the market cap is around $2.6B with a lot of cash from the IPO. I wouldn't be surprised that when Ivanplats' discovery is announced around the world, people will be really shocked at its size.

TGR: What other ones are you excited about?

CL: I've been a shareholder of OceanaGold Corp. since early 2009 when it was $0.40-0.50/share. The company just started a new copper-gold project in the Philippines that should transform OceanaGold into a low-cost and high-margin gold producer. It recently closed a financing at $3.11/share and is still trading significantly below that price.

TGR: What's the potential for this new Philippines project, and do you see Oceana being able to keep up its growth profile?

CL: It should produce gold at negative costs after copper byproduct. That project will transform it from a $1,000/oz producer to maybe a $300-400/oz producer, and will be a major step for the company.

TGR: You own Alexco Resource Corp. (NYSEMKT:AXU). What do you like about it?

CL: Alexco has a very strong balance sheet, no debt and a lot of cash. It's expanding production quite rapidly, and its mill has been running much better over the past quarter. It's waiting for permits for two new mines. They should come in the first half of 2013, and it will be producing around 3 Moz silver/year. Alexco has found a lot more silver in the district, so there are more opportunities coming.

With no debt and a lot of cash on the balance sheet, Alexco is another nice example of self-funding.

TGR: You also follow Aurcana Corporation (OTCPK:AUNFF), which recently announced commercial production at the Shafter mine in Texas. Do you expect share price growth to continue as it expands production and exploration at La Negra?

CL: Aurcana is another turnaround story, with new management. Lenic Rodriguez was an investor in the company and when the company got into trouble, he rose to the occasion. He started putting in more money and running the company, and turned it around. I was quite impressed by what he's done. La Negra was a marginal mine that has now turned into a huge cash generator. The Shafter mine in Texas just started commercial production. We should see continuing improvements throughout 2013. It will have a lot of warrants exercised this year from prior financings, which could put some pressure on the stock, but by the end of the year, the company should have a relatively clean share structure and can move on to the next level.

TGR: What else looks interesting?

CL: Eurasian Minerals Inc. (NYSEMKT:EMXX) is an exploration company that's basically a prospect-generator model. The company uses other parties' money to explore and then keeps the royalties. It has a series of royalties in Nevada that generate about $6M/year and carry most of the company's expenses. Eurasian is one of the very few exploration companies that is unlikely to need to raise money. In the meantime, it has many potential projects where majors spend money to explore -- so the upside is quite significant.

TGR: What's your general advice for investors looking to make some money in precious metals stocks this year?

CL: Gold and silver miners suffered major blows over the past two years, mostly due to mining and capex cost overruns. However, I'm seeing the pressure start to alleviate. Many managements learned their lesson and have started to be more cautious in their forward guidance. In 2013, gold miners could outperform gold. As I told my subscribers, I'm no longer underweighting gold miners. However, I'm still very cautious and plan to invest conservatively. I'm looking for the self-funding low-cost producer that can do well if we have any near-term weakness in gold. I also like companies with good base metals byproducts that can generate a lot of near-term cash flow. I'm very bullish on gold in the long run, but I want to invest in companies that can overcome any potential near-term weakness and then reward shareholders in the long run.

As my final thought, I see that every central banker is printing money like mad. Gold is the only real currency left. Every year, I put aside some profit to invest in physical gold and silver as well as platinum, and I will likely to do the same in 2013. If we have any weakness going into 2013, I believe it's a good buying opportunity.

TGR: I certainly appreciate the opportunity to talk with you again.

CL: Thank you.

This interview was conducted by Brian Sylvester of The Gold Report, and can be read in its entirety here or on our instablog.

Chen Lin writes the popular stock newsletter What Is Chen Buying? What Is Chen Selling?, published and distributed by Taylor Hard Money Advisors Inc. While a doctoral candidate in aeronautical engineering at Princeton, Chen found his investment strategies were so profitable that he put his Ph.D. on the back burner. He employs a value-oriented approach and often demonstrates excellent market timing due to his exceptional technical analysis.

1) Zig Lambo of The Gold Report conducted this interview. He personally and/or his family own shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: None.
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3) Chen Lin: I personally and/or my family own shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: Ivanplats Ltd., OceanaGold Corp., Alexco Resource Corp., Aurcana Corporation, Eurasian Minerals Inc. I personally and/or my family am paid by the following companies mentioned in this interview: None. I was not paid by Streetwise Reports for participating in this interview.

I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it. I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

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