Feet to the Fire: How Analysts Missed on Apple iPhone Shipments 16 comments
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With Apple (AAPL) having shipped 13.7m iPhones in 2008, this is a timely column on how badly analysts/journalists missed iPhone shipments over last two years. Wish people did more of this sort of thing, holding people's feet to the fire of their own estimates:
Lance Davis, writing at the UK Register, heavily discounted the likelihood of the iPhone reaching such stratospheric heights. He was wrong on every count. "It would be surprising if iPhone accounted for one per cent of sales just within the one network which had been announced -- AT&T." That would be half a million smartphones. Apple sold more than 1.1 million phones in Q307, the first full quarter it was available, alone.
Mike Elgan, writing for Computerworld (like The Industry Standard, a publication of IDG) said selling 10 million phones was "probably an unreachable goal... by setting the bar at 10 million iPhones sold by 2008, Jobs unnecessarily risks the erosion of faith in Apple when the company fails to reach that goal."
Quoted in the New York Times, Edward Snyder with Charter Equity Research said Apple would "have a difficult time" selling 10 million iPhones in 2008.
Charles Jade at Ars Technica wrote "it's a good thing Steve Jobs dropped out of college" since analysts with "advanced degrees in business and economics" doubted Apple's ability to sell 10 million iPhones in 2008.
[via Industry Standard]
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For those who read Graham :~ " I bought IBM, everybody said its a bad company, the stock was going down to downer, but i kept buying. I wasn't sure but IBM seem a good company to me" Couple of month later, he made more money than the previous 20 Years l
Wait and see.
The best analysis I've seen in the last couple years has come from Zaky and Muller, they were off .03 and ,02 cents respectively the last quarter and these are unaffiliated numbers crunchers that put wall street to shame
"Assuming Apple sells 1.3 million iPhones in the second quarter, that would be 3 million for the first half of the year. This means Apple would have to sell 7 million iPhones from July through December to get 10 million in 2008, or more than were sold in the first year of sales. Based on those numbers, one can see why analysts with advanced degrees in business and economics might doubt.
It's a good thing Steve Jobs dropped out of college."
If you weren't a regular reader, you might not be familiar with my acerbic wit, or maybe you are a victim of public education (that would be the wit). However, I think it's pretty clear I was contrasting Steve's Jobs' admirable business acumen sans MBA with the aforementioned highly-paid pessimists of which you are writing about, in other words I was doing what you did way before Apple actually made the iPhone numbers.
Just wanted to clear that up, no apology is necessary, as I'll make fun of you on my blog that no one reads.
The ANALysts remind me of Hamas: they shoot rockets into Israel, then get hammered and beg for a cease-fire. A couple of months later, they shoot rockets into Israel again, but expect different results. On and on it goes.
In a similar vein: Apple releases products at what are obviously regular intervals. June for phones, September for iPods. Yet here we have another ignorant ANALyst wondering why Apple is off of HIS calendar, not meeting HIS schedule. Time and time again, Apple has proven that it has a superior understanding of when to release products --- the results speak for themselves. But the ANALysts? They know better! Why, if only Apple would listen to them, Apple's sales would easily double!
Morons. They're all morons.
While it is understandable that the early trends showed the 10 million iPhone goal out of reach, it was widely known that MANY MANY people were holding out for the 3G version. I believed they would achieve it and they did, but guess what I got for my reward? NADA!
Now, this stock is just a waiting game. In a few quarters the deferred revenue will be driving up earnings substantially.
Off the top of my head I'll say $6 a share this year, with $2 due for Xmas quarter. 20 million iPhones, Macs up 10%, and this will be the year of the iPod Touch. Don't give me crap, I told ya it was off the top of my head! Just like the analysts haha!
Back in February of last year we made it clear Apple would certainly reach their 10M unit shipment. (seekingalpha.com/artic...) The question wasn't even worth asking really.
Anyone paying attention ignores these areas and focuses instead on the questions and research that stocks will actually turn on. Throwing stones at analysts who have no idea or incentive to do real research is counter-productive.
I do think that one reason analysts are so negative on AAPL is because its defenders are so rabid. They end up hating the company because of its fans -- kind of like the world outside of NY with regard to the Yankees!
People don't hate the Yankees because of its obnoxious fans, they hate the Yankees because of the team.