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Wow! This market is taking a beating. I was looking through companies at their 52 week lows and the list goes on and on. Many of these stocks are trading at prices that would have appeared unfathomable before last year. Some of these companies deserve their low share prices and others have been taken down unfairly. In this market it is difficult to tell the difference. Here are a few companies trading at or near their 52 week lows:
SunTrust Bank (STI) set a new 52 week low dropping to $7 per share yesterday. There are fears that SunTrust will not pass the government’s stress test and will not qualify for future assistance.
Wells Fargo (WFC) dropped to $13.69 which is its lowest price in 12 years. I am still buying Wells shares because I think that the bank will be saved. It’s hard to have any conviction about any bank stock at these levels.
Capital One (COF) dropped below $10 and American Express (AXP) dropped to $13 amid concerns over rising credit card delinquencies. The pain is just beginning in the credit card industry. This makes me wonder about the credit card portfolios at Citigroup (C) and Bank of America (BAC). They have already gotten TARP funds twice; any additional TARP funds may mean that nationalization is coming.
Dow Chemical (DOW) is down to $8.62 per share and now sports a market cap that is almost half of the proposed 15.3 billion dollar purchase price for Rohm & Haas (ROH).
United States Oil ETF (USO) is down to $23.45. Oil demand has fallen off a cliff. I don’t know how long this will last but it looks cheap at these levels.
General Electric (GE) is trading at $10.81. It could hit the single digits if the market keeps declining. The stock is yielding 10.80% and looks cheap if held for years.
US Bancorp (USB) hit $10.73 yesterday.
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Compare the stock prices with the period before the bubble of the late '90's and you will see that the fall is much worse than you observe for just the past year. In fact, measured in Euros, the DJIA has fallen more since Bush 2 took office in 2001 than it did during the Great Depression 1929-1932.
The markets are not even close to bottoming. The monetary system was stronger in the late '20's than today!
Are any of them really 'cheap'? When you're buying a deck chair on the Titanic, is any price 'cheap'?
European banks doing better then expected, US banks' CEO say Jan was good, so why the drop?
Going forward I don't have a lot of faith as long as corporate management keeps living in the past. For example, GE just released a statement about Jeff Immelt refusing a bonus for 2008:
"the company's "strong operating performance" wasn't reflected in the company's stock price."
Tell these guys the 20th century ended a decade ago, and the corporate culture that caused this mess isn't the right medicine to fix it.
I want to believe in the Obama administration and in its efforts to help resolve the problem. At least they are making a attempt. Wall Street and the news media could help if they would stop with the negative attitude and give it a chance. Stop scaring people and maybe people will start spending and no further job loss will occur once it has begun.
I would say that it is expected for most companies to have bad quarterly financial reports due to this crisis and the stock market has fallen enough for this reason. I see no reason why stock prices should fall again when the actual reports come out, intead, they should go up on the companies with good reports. Wall Street needs a change of face.
If somebody wants to focus on something, it seems to me that it should be on rules (laws) and regulations to prevent this from happening again. The rescue plan is in place so on to the next phase. Why waste valuable time talking badly about the situation, get to work to fix it and prosecute anybody that is found to be directly responsible for contributing to it.
Everything I read is that many of the banks you mentioned are techinically insolvent which means that stockholder equity is zero.
The stock price is just going down to reflect this. There may be a few good banks but it is hard to figure out which these are.
The decline in financials is also pushing down other stocks which are much easier to value. This is a buying opportunity, but it is outside of financials.
On Feb 18 08:39 AM Jim Hawthorne wrote:
> Yes, the financials are getting slaughtered. Yes, many of these equities
> are trading at or near their 52 week lows. Yes, many of these are
> facing the delightful choice of insolvency or nationalization.<br...
>
> Are any of them really 'cheap'? When you're buying a deck chair on
> the Titanic, is any price 'cheap'?
On Feb 18 10:57 AM Dr.Jackpot wrote:
> Someone wrote this morning that Alan Greenspan favored nationalization
> of banks. Wasn't he the whole cause of this ripoff in the first place?
> Is there no justice called for here?
On Feb 18 08:13 AM eddie6442 wrote:
> It's becoming more apparent every day that some very powerful people
> want the US economy to crater. When all it would take are a few "emergency"
> accounting & regulation changes to alleviate the downward spiral
> to "catastrophe, anyone with half a brain can figure this out! <br/>It's
> logic 101 : If A, then B.............
>
> SIMPLE!!!!!!!!
>
> IMHO
On Feb 18 10:23 AM Landman wrote:
> Hedge Funds and Institutional Investors are using Triple Bear Short
> ETF's to pound financial companies into the ground.
On Feb 18 08:13 AM eddie6442 wrote:
> It's becoming more apparent every day that some very powerful people
> want the US economy to crater. When all it would take are a few "emergency"
> accounting & regulation changes to alleviate the downward spiral
> to "catastrophe, anyone with half a brain can figure this out! <br/>It's
> logic 101 : If A, then B.............
>
> SIMPLE!!!!!!!!
>
> IMHO
Having and encouraging many complicated and confusing layers of something that is purposefully made that way to buffer and prevent full and easy understanding and disclosure is the new world order primarily done to justify outrageous and unwarranted costs to consumers and citizens. Yes, yet another scam upon the common earning and taxpaying citizenry. What else did you expect from the ultra rich? And, don't expect full exposure to stop it. Who makes the rules? Right again.
I mean, who is this guy, to just real off a bunch of stocks and their prices to us?
"United States Oil ETF (USO) is down to $23.45. Oil demand has fallen off a cliff. I don’t know how long this will last but it looks cheap at these levels."
LOL!!!
In 2008, we arrived at a crossroad:
Had we chose to mercilessly murder -- with complete disregard for the magnitude or scope -- of any and all faltering financial institutions, we may have been able to avoid the fate which has yet to fall upon us.
Instead, we choose not to contain and eradicate the contagion, but willingly distributed into the greater economy in the hopes of diluting it's negative effects.
Where will the value go when it leaves the Dollar?