Today's Market: Irrationality at Its Best 18 comments
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With all the carnage taking place in the market, I thought it is time to put the insanity in perspective. For now one thing is certain: The consensus trade is to be short the market and for other long only institutions to sell down their positions as appetite for equities has dramatically diminished.
One reason for this phenomenon is that people believe that S&P earnings are still too high for 2009 and need to come down. The consensus estimate hovers around $60 with some strategists pulling down their numbers to as low as $49. So, the magic 600 S&P number is arrived at by putting a 12 times earning multiple on the $49 number and there you have it: S&P at 600. This is what the media and other pundits are tom-tomming about!
However, let us put things in perspective. Would you agree that in 2009 we are better off than we were in 2008? I certainly do. For one thing, we now have a much more actionable plan to shore up our financial institutions. Couple that with the stimulus package, and you have a catalyst to jump-start our economy.
Now, with all the pessimism abounding, people have thrown the stimulus plan out of the window and nobody believes that the plan to stabilize the financial system will work. As markets overextend on the upside, they almost always overcompensate on the downside. I think we have to recognize that 2009 is going to be a trough year for earnings, and there should be meaningful recovery in 2010 and 2011.
Fact of the matter is that the global economic system is too big to fail. I think we are seeing unprecedented cooperation amongst nations globally to stymie this crisis. I would have felt much more uncertain in 2008 with all the negative news and the collapse of the financial markets.
Think about it for a second: As I write, the S&P is down approximately 17% YTD and we are only in February. The S&P finished down 38% last year and we have almost reached half that level in the second month this year. Is this run-rate sustainable? Absolutely not!
What you are witnessing is irrational selling. Fear has encompassed the market and when that happens it becomes impossible to separate fact from fiction. The trend is obviously down and a good trader never wants to fight the tape!
However, when you completely discount near-term stimuli, the possibility for an explosive rally becomes all that probable. At current levels, the S&P has gone back to 1997 levels. There is doom and gloom in the market which also represents capitulation and the possibility of reversing the trend up.
Current action is making me very positive on the possibility of an explosive rally developing shortly.
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i am not predicting the market is going to fall - but i am predicting these ignorant claims of bottoms or the sun shining out of peoples orafices will soon be revealed as ignorant hype.
Good article, that.
All my trading models say "Sell, sell, and short!" and my heart is not in it anymore. Widows and orphans funds are now down over 50% while invested in America's strongest companies collectively sitting on over $100 billion in cash (stuff like Apple, Microsoft, Cisco, and Intel). Pension funds that invested in Ponzi schemes are wiped out, but conservative long-range investors are not far behind. These are unleveraged assets invested for the long haul, and they are paying a terrible price. The USG wants to bail out the banks by buying their stock?!? Huh?!?
How was all this carnage caused by illegal aliens making a quick buck by selling mortgages to their fellow illegal aliens so they could stuff 7 families in a house? Do you believe all this crap? Do you think manipulation may have more culpability? Ya think?
I have my doubts about the Pubs and their crusade to discredit Obama and the Dems, but they caused this mess all by themselves according to the progressives. They all had some help.
Somebody is manipulating the entire system. It would be good if we followed Germany's Merkel and the EU and put the clamps on the Hedge fund traders. Maybe we will see who is really causing the trouble.
My computer alarms just went off again. "Sell, short, sell!" The indicators are 20% out of bounds. There is no floor under the averages for a long way down. This is a tough call. Should I follow my head or my gut?
This is a crisis of too much debt. There are only two solutions, pay down the debt or inflate away the debt. If we choose to pay it down, then we are looking at a prolonged economic contraction during which the stock market will probably go sideways at best. Stocks are certainly not acting irrational if that is the scenario that occurs.
The other solution is to make the pain of all this debt go away with a wave of the government's hand, i.e., inflation via printing press. It's quicker, debt becomes manageable, fewer unsightly bankruptcies, no panicky shareholders because the stock market returns to the old familiar trading patterns. Every coroporation has a visible goal again; lobby the government for a competitive advantage, something they already know how to do well. Solution #2 seems so comforting. We've learned to love our easy money. This seems to be the path you foresee and I don't necessarily disagree.
One minor thing to keep in the back of your mind as the warm narcotic of fiat money once again flows through the arteries of this system. There is nothing about printing money, or excessive credit, or government largesse and power, that create more wealth. Wealth is created by individual persons working hard to better themselves. All those stories about "pump priming" and "paradox of thrift" and future "fiscal responsibility"...., rationalizations used by addicts to justify one more score. Just get us through this rough patch, make us feel better again, and then we'll have our mind right for the hard work of going straight.
If you're hoping for a quick market rebound, be careful, even if it helps your personal situation in the short term. This may be the dose that finishes America off.
Until I see the USA begin targeting their debt as their most pressing economic problem, I simply dont see a turnaround.
Luckily I am starting to see the signs with your new president at least talking about halving the deficit. However until he starts raising taxes and cutting government spending thats all just rhetoric.
Until your own government starts putting policies of fiscal responsibility in place why would you expect your major corporations to act differently?
We have been through this in Canada after 1992. It was a long and painful process. If you spend beyond your means, one way or another you have to pay the piper.
Kirk
Never say Never.
Now close your eyes, click your heels 3 times and say
"Prosperity is just around the (maybe FY2013) corner.
Why portfolio was up 5% yesterday (2-23-09) alone and is up over 50% since the highs in 2007 so listen to the idot who is losing his ass because he trades on false hope or listen to the facts, it's your choice.
Now the Shadow Banking System has so much exposure to instruments that are almost insurmountable in complexity and opacity that no one has any confidence in solvency - Therefore the tragedy we are currently in. Until this issue is dealt with there will be no recovery; the system will not return to normalcy.
Housing may have been the fuse that set this whole pile in motion of collapse, but it has now become a symptom of a much larger cycle, of interwoven reinforcing results, of insolvency suspicion within the financial institutions and framework of the economy.
Better in 2009? Other than macro "feeling" not being a sound trading strategy, I don't agree with this logic at all.
Let's say we are "materially" better off in 2009. Pretend, anyway.
That still doesn't mean that the S&P500 is fairly valued or anything is even close to bottom.
Don't forget, 2008 might have been "materially worse" but it was also grossly overvalued with phantom toxic assets that we somehow pretended were golden. Thus, S&P500 and the market overall will still plummet, regardless of the material considerations.
I'm not predicting that we're going to fall a great deal or a little. I'm just pointing out that this statement really means little, even if true.
I look forward to reading it all again tomorrow after tonight's speech.
Would that you are correct David, because those of us who are in trouble could use the relief of some stability returning to economy.
As for the pessimistic "I told you so's", could you please just go across the street and help the economy, buy something, coffee, hot dog; the vendor will thank you. Telling the Captain of the Titanic the ship is sinking is overstating the obvious; turn your anger and fear into something constructive and we might all fair a wee bit better.
The truth is the economy will have to rebuild from the bottom up, go buy something that creates demand in the supply chain.
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"The truth is the economy will have to rebuild from the bottom up, go buy something that creates demand in the supply chain"
you out to lunch? the "economy" is fine, its the contracting of markets, much like what was done with oil last springtime, that lead to the melt down. somewhere between 60 and 100 trillion dollars of lost contract values(depending on which pundit you read) that has done us in. otherwise, the global economy is fine considering the sudden lack of credit worldwide. supply and demand are fine, production is fine. its the credit markets that are not fine.
On Feb 24 02:32 PM P. K. wrote:
> Thank you for your perspective one and all.
>
> I look forward to reading it all again tomorrow after tonight's speech.
>
>
> Would that you are correct David, because those of us who are in
> trouble could use the relief of some stability returning to economy.
>
>
> As for the pessimistic "I told you so's", could you please just go
> across the street and help the economy, buy something, coffee, hot
> dog; the vendor will thank you. Telling the Captain of the Titanic
> the ship is sinking is overstating the obvious; turn your anger and
> fear into something constructive and we might all fair a wee bit
> better.
>
> The truth is the economy will have to rebuild from the bottom up,
> go buy something that creates demand in the supply chain.
> .