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This report from CNN details the findings in a paper by David Rosnick and Dean Baker at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in which it was discovered that those who have been renting over the last five years are now wealthier than those who "own" their homes.
Whaaaaaat? (think Jon Stewart in a Home Alone pose)
That kind of flies in the face of everything you might hear from the National Association of Realtors about housing being such a great investment, but there it is:
The CEPR also found that people who were renting homes in 2004 will have more wealth in 2009 than those who were owners. That's true for all five wealth groups the study analyzed, from the poorest to the wealthiest.
"The collapse of the housing bubble, which led to the current recession, has already destroyed almost $6 trillion dollars in housing wealth for homeowners," said report co-author Dean Baker. "This reality is compounded by the recent collapse of the stock market. Many baby boomers will only have Social Security and Medicare to rely on in their retirement."
It's important to note that Dean Baker is one of only about two economists in the world who not only recognized the housing bubble in real time, but took the additional step of cashing out a few years ago, transforming himself into a renter, about whom he speaks so highly now. Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital, an investment firm specializing in overseas investments and a noted bear on housing market issues, thinks there's a good chance home prices will continue their steep decline.
As an added bonus, Peter Schiff (also a renter in recent years) makes a guest appearance:
It's funny to think that buying a house to make money to fund your retirement was a commonly held view amongst economists a few years ago.
"Real estate has to be priced like any other goods," he said. "Home prices have to reflect the economic reality. You buy for shelter, not to make money. You don't need to own a house. I'm a perfect example."
He has rented for years and reports that the owners of his current home, after subtracting for property taxes and insurance, are receiving a cash-flow return on their investment of less than 1%.
"Real estate is overpriced if owners get just a 1% return," he said.
That is, back when they were dismissing the zero-savings rate as being irrelevant in our new modern economy with "financial innovation" that seemingly knew no bounds.
There's no word on whether co-author David Rosnick also rents.





"The collapse of the housing bubble, which led to the current recession, has already destroyed almost $6 trillion dollars in housing wealth for homeowners," said report co-author Dean Baker. "This reality is compounded by the recent collapse of the stock market. Many baby boomers will only have Social Security and Medicare to rely on in their retirement."
















Given this state of affairs, is it any wonder that some will postulate the renters are 'wealthier' than the 'owners'. A true perversity. The section 8 HUD renters are so wealthy - such a productive slice of society - that they 'deserve' the new tax breaks while the rich/poor landlords deserve yet another tax increase. Has the pendulum swung to far yet?
Regrettably, no...
Start Renting the Idle homes at below Apartment Rates in each area. This will hurt the Apartment sector, but we are trying to stem the Decline in Home Value.
They aren't going to have to build anything for a long long time - its sitting there vacant.
I've been renting nicely furnished condos with phone and/or electric and always cable included at less than I would pay for an unfurnished apartment and way way way less than a home.. and no taxes, maintenance or insurance bills to boot... I live in FL 6 mos and the mountains of New England 6 mos. which gives me great weather year-round.
On Mar 01 08:28 AM abetterplace wrote:
> Tell me just when 2006 became a "long,long time". How old are you?
> 19.
> Also, I think 1% would look very good to 100% of stock holders of
> just about anything. If the time comes, other than a short time correction
> of a year or two,
> that Americans cannot make money with real estate , then we can
> all go to the house, lay down and die.
> I also wonder who would build anything for the renters to rent.
In fact, paying this kind of rent is worse than paying rent to a "landlord" since with the government landlord, you don't have any rights.
Renters, on the other hand, have probably not over indulged themselves to the same extent and have lost nothing in the real estate market and therefor have more net worth left (unless they were heavily in the stock market).
debtor/speculators with the unfair morgtage tax deduction which means that they pay less taxes then responsibel homeowners and we pay more. I'm tired of seeing farms idle while the farmers ball caps are bent inwards looking in their mailbox for their checks for being idle. Farms are the biggest wefare program in America.
while you get the pink slip,cruch pensions and unemployment!
I added up loan interest, HOA, insurance and property tax on the house. I classified these as expenses that were NOT building equity and just basically throwing money out the window. I then subtracted any tax break I might get from paying interest and tax.
The number I came up with was roughly $2500 per month
I looked around on craigslist and found a 4 bedroom single family home in a nicer area renting for $2600 a month.
My decision was easy.
So to those people saying that renting is throwing money out the window, take off the blinders and realize that you're throwing money away no matter what. the only question is do you also want to be trapped in the same residence and grow grey hairs about depreciation while you're doing it.
The cattle just dont understand that you have to PAY to live. You cant short cut life by just borrowing to get a house and expect that you dont have to do anything but make little payments while your 'equity' build up...LOL get a brain morans! Or better yet, learn the hardway ..you BUBBLETARDS!
Not so simple, djhives. Like everything else in life, there is no one "right" answer for every person. It depends on individual circumstances and local market cycles. Generally speaking, if owning costs the same or less than renting, you are better off in the long run buying your home. At the end of your working life you won't have to pay mortgage or rent. This imputed rent, an amount not having to be paid from labor or investment income, is the economic reward for buying.
On the other hand, if owning costs substantially more than renting, studies show that renting and saving the difference usually results in more liquid wealth at the end of 30 years. Few have the self discipline to save the difference, however. At what point you buy in the local market cycle is also a factor, and the investment returns on your savings.
Alas, such an observation resonates more in relatively normal times.
At the moment, America is coming down off a Housing Religion high, the likes of which have never been seen before. Those who caught the spirit put most of their resources into their house, with lots of remodeling and new furniture to boot. Little wonder they now have less nominal wealth, as the bubble deflates, than their apartment dwelling brethren who never caught the fever.
Most folks want black and white "truths" instead of muddling through all these gray areas. So they will continue to claim that either buying or renting is better. The more insecure they are, the louder they yell. Ignore them and look at your own circumstances, along with the market. The best path will reveal itself if you take the time to understand.
Just remember: interest and taxes are just another form of rent!
On Mar 02 04:21 AM Neils2009 wrote:
> I still feel that buying a house is better for long term.Renting
> a home is just like throwing money away while doing the same for
> your own home,you could build that equity.Current housing market
> is a great time to buy real estate if you have ok credit and job
> stability.You might even find some good deals on market.
If you rent can you say the same? How have YOU hedged your housing carry?