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Apple Inc. (AAPL) may have refreshed its line of Mac desktops but it didn’t provide any relief on prices.
Mac Pros, Mac Minis and iMacs have been updated with faster processors, more memory, larger drivers and NVIDIA (NVDA) graphics chips. The Mac Pros will be available next week but the iMacs and Mac Minis are out now. While pricing in the U.S. is essentially unchanged, Apple raised the cost for a Mac in Europe by an average of 11%.
Despite the hype, refreshed iMacs are unlikely to be a material catalyst as technical improvements at the same or higher prices do not provide a compelling reason for users to upgrade in a period of deteriorating consumer spending, said RBC Capital Markets analyst Mike Abramsky. However, the new Mac Pros may drive some professional upgrades.
He said the refresh suggests Apple believes it can sustain above-industry pricing via innovation, and it is trying to preserve gross margins by updating specifications at the same cost or increasing pricing to offset higher costs.
Mr. Abramsky told clients:
"However, we see elevated risks to demand for premium priced Macs should some consumers defer or opt for less expensive competitive alternatives within the tough environment."
He also noted that Macs cost an estimated 70% more than the industry average selling price.
The analyst also said that if Apple were to cut prices or introduce lower-cost models, its gross margins (30% to 40% on desktops versus 15% to 20% for its peers) could be at risk.
So with Macs accounting for an estimated 38% of Apple’s forward twelve month revenue, Mr. Abramsky sees sustained elevated risk to the stock’s premium valuation multiple
“as Mac growth and/or margins face possible ‘downshifts’ amidst a worsening consumer recession, and see possible revaluation on revised growth/margin expectations, reduced visibility, and renewed uncertainty re leadership.”
The analyst maintained an “underperform” rating on Apple and a price target of $70 per share.
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First: why drop prices if you are hitting your numbers (the real ones not the conservative estimates Apple always tries to con us with). I would rather see slow and steady movement rather than a jittery hand on the wheel.
Second:This guy is clueless as to what actually happened. Doesnt he realize that the mac mini has been updated after 2 years? Basically the system was essentially unbuyable before the update, and after is a nice little machine for $599. Perfect machine for switchers who already have keyboard/mouse/monitor... I think the user experience would be better with a iMac, but...$599. I am switching my mom to one from a 2 year old Dell. I would have bought one for the office if it had shipped a month ago (bought a MacBook Pro instead)
Also, INTEL are having a major release in 3Q09:
www.engadget.com/2009/.../
We already saw the Mac PROs have a 1 month head start over the market with the Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Nehalem” processor.
I would expect Apple to get first dibs on Calpella too.
Does the PC maker have a presence in your mall - so you can take your HP or Dell in and receive help with software or hardware issues the day they pop up?
There are other factors in the price besides what's on the sticker.
www.amazon.com/Show-St...
On Mar 05 08:18 AM User 370063 wrote:
> After buying my first mac four years ago. I have added a mac for
> three more of my five children since then. WIth only one PC left
> in the house, and difficult finacial times ahead. I still will not
> buy any machine runing anything but MAC OSX. It's that simple I
> will get a MAC sometime this year. You get so much more with a MAC
> besides none of the problems. When will MSFT port it's OS to a unix
> core like every other OS on the planet.
apple20.blogs.fortune....
I for one was waiting for the 'refresh' to purchase my new iMac - and they did lover prices (perhaps slightly) on a couple of their product, but no more than they have in past upgrade cycles.
Apple's market share is growing for those segments in which they compete, so they have apparently figured out a model that works. Could Apple sell more units by lowering price? According to the law of supply and demand, that's how it's supposed to work. If Apple lowered the price too far, they'd probably see declines in customer satisfaction, since they'd have to skimp and cut corners to maintain reasonable margins. One of the reasons I buy Apple products is because I prefer having a superior customer experience relative to, say, Dell.
Abramsky's analyses are interesting to me in that he frequently gets the data right, but always manages to interpret things in the worst possible way for Apple. His firm is in the tank for RIMM, and as far as I'm concerned, he's completely tainted.
On Mar 05 09:25 AM Petoveritas wrote:
> Abramsky estimates Macs cost 70% more than the industry average.
> Interesting, because Yair Reiner from Oppenheimer took the iMac and
> did a spec-by-spec comparison with comparable Dell and HP machines.
> His surprising conclusion... iMacs are "a better value than competing
> Windows-based products - ($100-$250 cheaper [though it lacks a TV
> Tuner, ~$60-$100 upgrade])”
>
> apple20.blogs.fortune....
>
These analysts are nothing more than rank amateurs who have to write some crap to keep their jobs...they have no more knowledge or insight than my cleaning lady does about this market.
We're all lucking to have a prudent watchdog like you looking out for our very own money- like Pelosi and the very disappointing Obama are already enough! (Oh-and what a brave forecast on AAPL. Really letting it all hang out with at $70! price) Go wild! Right on brother- Stimulate THIS!
…and there are the Mercedes Bienz. A matter of focus. You choose!
Unlike certain analysts, consumers put their own capital at risk when they buy expensive stuff like computers. They do their research, and guess what -- they're packing Apple's retail stores today more than ever.
> Despite the hype, refreshed iMacs are unlikely to be a material catalyst as technical improvements at the same or higher prices do not provide a compelling reason for users to upgrade in a period of deteriorating consumer spending,
Really? I just bought a beautiful 24" iMac to replace the last iMac I bought -- nine years ago. It cost about the same - not higher. So I've been spending $167 per year. I can easily sell the old one for $300 so make that $133 per year, every minute of it productive and hassle-free. What have you been spending on your crash-prone, virus-infested Windows junk?
Macs more expensive? See this Fortune blog:
apple20.blogs.fortune..../
Not does the iMac 24" beat Dell & HP in most hardware categories, but it is actually the cheapest!
On Mar 05 10:17 AM goodjello wrote:
> What the writer fails to realize is that these updates are long overdue.
> So while they may not do much to bring in new converts, the Mac faithful
> have been waiting for these for months, thus there will be a strong
> initial surge in sales because of the pent-up demand. It will be
> sufficient to allow Apple to handily beat all forecasts for the current
> quarter.
There are many hidden costs associated with PCs across the board, and any savvy consumer will eventually pick up on that.
On Mar 05 09:45 AM Stuff and Nonsense wrote:
> Abramsky said "70% more than the average selling price" - that is,
> if you average all the stuff they sell, pro machines right on down
> to netbooks. Abramsky's probably right about that. But Apple has
> already said that they don't know how to make a $500 laptop that's
> not a piece of junk, and that it's not in their DNA to ship junk.
> Many analysts want Apple to join the hardware cost race to the bottom,
> destroying their margins in the process. Apple's products aren't
> luxury items, in the sense of a "luxury" like a Prada purse; they
> are tools that can be used to generate value - and yes, they can
> be enjoyable and even be status symbols. But underneath it all, they
> are still computers, and those are used as means to an end. If they
> make you more productive, or they make you a lot happier while allowing
> you to operate at a comparable level of productivity, then there
> is a reason to pay extra for them. Apple therefore charges extra.
>
>
> Apple's market share is growing for those segments in which they
> compete, so they have apparently figured out a model that works.
> Could Apple sell more units by lowering price? According to the law
> of supply and demand, that's how it's supposed to work. If Apple
> lowered the price too far, they'd probably see declines in customer
> satisfaction, since they'd have to skimp and cut corners to maintain
> reasonable margins. One of the reasons I buy Apple products is because
> I prefer having a superior customer experience relative to, say,
> Dell.
>
> Abramsky's analyses are interesting to me in that he frequently gets
> the data right, but always manages to interpret things in the worst
> possible way for Apple. His firm is in the tank for RIMM, and as
> far as I'm concerned, he's completely tainted.