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One thing you cannot say about the Chinese government is that they don't have a very long-term vision. This is an interesting article on Reuters about how the country has fully loaded its oil reserves and now is looking to load up ships for even more. I wonder what we are doing... ah yes, that whole bank thing. One good thing about a near dictatorship is if you have the right people in charge at least you don't have to do this whole consensus building stuff.
I also wonder what this says for worldwide demand for petrol - if China has been busy buying for no reason other than storage, one could argue that demand is in fact weaker than it appears. But who really knows - there are so many moving parts I won't hazard a guess. What it does say is when people point to the huge surge in Chinese imports or the Baltic Dry Index popping, it doesn't necessarily mean a darn thing about a pickup in demand. It simply could be a government stockpiling resources at low prices.
- China has filled all four of its state-owned emergency oil reserve tanks to the brim and should now invest in oil tankers to add more to inventories while oil prices are low, a senior industry executive said on Monday in a rare acknowledgment of Beijing's secretive oil inventories.
- Coupled with data last week showing a one-third rise in commercial crude oil stockpiles last year, the admission suggests that a large share of of China's oil import growth last year was pumped directly into storage, and could be relied upon quickly to soften any demand recovery or if prices should rise.
- It also backs up speculation that the world's No. 2 energy user has been making good use of oil's $100 price fall to boost supplies while demand falters in an unfolding economic crisis.
- The first set of China's strategic oil reserves, which can hold about 100 million barrels, were built over the past two years, but data on their status is considered a state secret and information about their operations or tank levels is scarce. China plans to build a second-phase strategic reserve that will nearly triple the first batch to 280 million barrels by 2011, and industry executives have said the current storage capacity has already become a hurdle to bringing in more imports.
- China is taking the supply security issue more seriously than the market thought, says Yan Kefeng, Beijing-based senior oil analyst with Cambridge Energy Research Associates (CERA). "We expect China's oil stockpiling to reach a peak in 2009, and continue into the next year," Yan said, but did not give an estimate on the volume of stockbuild he expected.
- The remark is consistent with recent comments by government officials that China should better use its massive foreign exchange reserve to stock up key commodities from grain to metals to crude oil, and last week Beijing announced that it would boost its budget for stockpiling resources by $10 billion.
- China should act quicker to boost storage capacity as its import dependence is set to surge in the coming decade. "Floating storage bases are a good idea because China needs to do everything to boost reserves," Lin said.
Now if you are a bull on the Chinese economy this is the one line that should give you pause
- Together with record high stocks of gasoline and diesel accumulated ahead of last summer's Olympics, the stockbuild also meant Chinese oil demand may have slowed more than it appeared.
I cannot find the ABC News piece, but it was out about 6 months ago - it is striking how China is locking up natural resources throughout the world with "partnerships"; specifically this hour-long program was about how China is building out infrastructure (spend now) in Africa in return for access to those country's natural resources. Folks, this is our competition the next 50+ years... we, on the other hand, don't think out past one election cycle. If you have time, here is a lengthy piece called
The Age of the Dragon which is similar to what I saw on ABC
China is conquering Africa as it becomes the preferred trading partner of the continent's dictators. Beijing is buying up Africa's abundant natural resources and providing it with needed cash and cheaply produced consumer goods in return.
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'teaching'. Sad.
Most MBA curriculums are a collection of isolated courses (finance, accounting, organizational behavior, statistics, economics, etc). The problem is not the courses themselves, but the fact that the students are not taught the interrelations between them or the effect of external factors like geopolitics.
Finance methods are mostly trying to predict future stock valuations based on past valuation along with ridiculous variables like sales growth (how do you predict something like this ???)
On Mar 10 10:59 AM longoil wrote:
> Youngolf,
>
> Most MBA curriculums are a collection of isolated courses (finance,
> accounting, organizational behavior, statistics, economics, etc).
> The problem is not the courses themselves, but the fact that the
> students are not taught the interrelations between them or the effect
> of external factors like geopolitics.
>
> Finance methods are mostly trying to predict future stock valuations
> based on past valuation along with ridiculous variables like sales
> growth (how do you predict something like this ???)
We have strategic oil reserve for a long time. It has not scared anyone. Why be scared by Chinese oil reserve? Don't you think our mental stability may have been altered by our economy or stock market? Oil reserve tend to stabilize the price of oil. I know some traders playing with oil futures, options....don't like it. Well, keep screaming. It may improve your lung function!
China acts on old communist ideology. There is no market reason for them to stockpile oil, buying futures would be much simpler and cheaper. There is no reason to buy other commodities in huge quantities. There are future markets for most of them where you can lock current price.
As for conclusion that economic situation is much worse than chinese government wants us to believe, it's so obvious. How can export oriented economy feel good when world demand falls of a cliff?
On Mar 10 08:18 AM User 224899 wrote:
> China is doing what readers of Seeking Alpha wish they could do:
> using their cash to bottom feed while everything is cheap.
>
> Do you see the US government laying down stores of anything with
> intrinsic value? Are we establishing or building strategic reserves
> of anything at all? Jeesh! It's like our government is a 6 year old
> kid with ADHD and no memory at all.
>
> Here's a simple instruction for the US government to follow: while
> the dollar is up relative to other currencies, go buy stuff with
> intrinsic value that's priced in the other currencies while market
> prices across the board are low low low. That includes iron ore,
> copper, oil, coal (oh, we have lots of that here already), technical
> minerals (e.g., galenium, indium, osmium, lithium, selenium, etc),
> and cement.
>
> Here's another simple instruction for the US government: while constuction
> companies and factories are idle, and can be hired for a song, make
> contracts with them to make stuff we need like a bigger interstate
> highway system, a smarter and larger potable water distribution system,
> a decentralized system of military bases that can't be wiped out
> with a few successful attacks, a coast guard that's adequately equipped
> and allowed to design their own fleet of shallow water coastal vessels,
> a fleet of ice breakers and arctic-hulled oil exploration and recovery
> vessels, and a network of urban schools in America that don't all
> look like the Warsaw Ghetto in 1949.
> So, is than argument for the efficiency of planned eonomies and the
> myth of "free markets"? Just a thought.
No this is not an argument for planned societies.
It is an example of the difference in Awareness of those with power.
China is attempting to bolster their "Necessities" to keep functioning and somewhat keep their people from rioting due to shortage.
America, by either monumental ignorance or sinister savvy to undermine and weaken, is doing little to prepare for the "forced" economic isolation that is coming and will be present for a time.
Instead the American Government seems content to ramp up production on Private Prisons - Jail For Profit.
What Lengths Do You Suppose That People Will Go To, To Remain In Power.
Most Tyrannical Governments Come Out Of Economic Hardship.
The Price Of Freedom Is Eternal Vigilance.
To Assume Benevolence Is Foolish.
So when we hear about them stockpiling raw materials amidst falling global demand, some assume they are acting with some ancient wisdom we lack.
But building inventories just doesn’t sound like a super sharp move right now. So they are either stupid or desperate. My bet is desperate.
At least to me, speculating with the national treasure seems a bit desperate.
On Mar 10 02:49 PM @TexasER wrote:
> But building inventories just doesn’t sound like a super sharp move
> right now. So they are either stupid or desperate. My bet is desperate.
>
>
> At least to me, speculating with the national treasure seems a bit
> desperate.
1. The Chinese did not purchase 300MB/day barrels/day with the load. Just the right to purchase 300MB/day at market price. Its the same deal they reached with Brazil.
2. The Chinese still think in terms of the cold war. The stock pile is to protect its self from a disruption in supply. If there is a conflict with the US the US Navy could easily cut China off. As someone mentioned above its cheaper to protect yourself against price fluctuation with hedging.
1. Obama has little experience
2. He Does not understand the importance of oil to national security
3. Obama wants to be friends with the Taliban
4. The Taliban does not want to be friends with the US
5. The Taliban wants to disrupt the flow of oil to the US and their friends
6. When that happens the US will be SOL
7. The Chinese will rely on their reserves and contracts with Russia et. al.
8. The US, under Obama, is quickly becoming a third world country...think like a Cuba
9. In ten years, with run away inflation, the US will be making products, using minimum wage labor and shipping product to China.
10. The us is will be then known as the Obamanation.
China will have first calls on Russian and Brazilian oil in the future.
The reserves function as emergency supplies.
Our oil reserves have the same function and have been tapped in years past when hurricanes have closed down the Gulf.
China looks past the present into the Future, Obama? who knows what he looks at, other than the Telepromter.
On Mar 10 02:38 PM pockyclips 2020 wrote:
> Conversely, if oil prices have been falling (until very recently)
> while China has been tapping off the tank, what's going to happen
> if the world economy doesn't show drastic improvement by the summer?
On Mar 10 11:38 AM Alex Filonov wrote:
> Wake me up when they are finished. It will be time to short oil,
> again. And other commodities.
>
> China acts on old communist ideology. There is no market reason for
> them to stockpile oil, buying futures would be much simpler and cheaper.
> There is no reason to buy other commodities in huge quantities. There
> are future markets for most of them where you can lock current price.
>
>
> As for conclusion that economic situation is much worse than chinese
> government wants us to believe, it's so obvious. How can export oriented
> economy feel good when world demand falls of a cliff?