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Clay Shirky has a brilliant essay on newspapers and the internet: go read it now. Here's a taste:
When someone demands to be told how we can replace newspapers, they are really demanding to be told that we are not living through a revolution. They are demanding to be told that old systems won't break before new systems are in place. They are demanding to be told that ancient social bargains aren't in peril, that core institutions will be spared, that new methods of spreading information will improve previous practice rather than upending it. They are demanding to be lied to.
I am hopeful, amid the fear; but that doesn't mean the fear isn't justified. The wreckage in the newspaper industry is already devastating, and it's only going to get worse; my base case is a last-man-standing scenario in which the big boys (NYT, WSJ, Guardian, BBC, Reuters) win, and most smaller publications lose. I just hope that the NYT is big enough to survive the storm; its loss would be irreplaceable.
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On Mar 14 03:30 PM ED K wrote:
> Progress frequently causes the demise of even great institution and
> that seems to be the case here.Even the mighty NY Times is rumored
> to go bankrupt,possibly later this year.It's very sad to see these
> newspapers vanishing ,one by one.
Depends on what field you're talking about. Community newspapers are doing relatively well, better tha n the big boys, although they may be dragged down by their corporate parent (such as in the case of Lee, which is still posting a 19% operating profit. It just ain't enough to cover all the debt they took out to swallow Pulitzer)
The shakeout is more likely to be specialization. Maybe McClatchy shuts down its DC bureau and relies on the NYT instead, for example, while focusing on local news. Similarly, perhaps Dow Jones divests its Ottaway division and focuses on the WSJ and national/business news.
Nik
Mark Twain
"Newspapers don't report the news, they shape the news." quipped Libertad co-founder John Gowan.
I will be very sorry to lose the morning paper but Craigslist is decimating the classifieds and financial sites are devastating the business pages (just two examples). I wonder how long the papers can hold out.
Later today I will haul approximately 60 lbs of old newspapers and ads to the recycling center. That, I won't miss. Plus, think of the trees and energy saved.
Blogs and Financial sites like Yahoo Finance, Seeking Alpha, etc. are our future. They will continue to evolve with hundreds times more info than the paper could ever provide, and no recycling.
you may be right, my daughter & my son-in-law don't look @ newspapers, they like to be insulated from the bad news.
> jack
there's no going back. for the NYT to say they don't know how to fix it is sort of like the makers of horse carriages saying, when autos came on the scene, that they didn't know how to make the carriages more appealing...as if that would help. there is no fix. there's just change. i like horses a lot, but i don't want to ride one to work.
Try and find a Slide Rule company today, there are none.
The slide rule companies disappeared because they became irrelevant as calculators were a superior technology. It took only 20 years for this to happen.
Newspapers and print = Its been 20 years since the internet became pervasive. Within 10 years 99% of newspapers will no longer be in print.
Bye Bye!!! IMO
1) Isn't it that we see it coming for a long while? So much so that I used to dread or even hate all that extra work of trashing (or re-cycling)heavy loads of newspapers. It is a real chore. They stack up fast and occupy huge spaces in the house fast. Old news: who would want to keep or track so much paper if you could do it online.
2) On the bright side, this trend is good for the environment - less trees being chopped down, and less disposals.
3) Going to be real hard on our Northern neighbor Canada. As newsprint demands dry up so will their much relied upon industry and export. Some say that when our unemployment will perhaps go all the way up to ~ 16% before it starts to retreat. Traditionally the Canadian unemployment rate trails the U.S.'s by an additional 2 percentage points. Sorry for our cousin folks in Canada. They will probably see an ~18% rate before it is all over. Myself am ex-Canadian, I know the pain and I sympathize with them.
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finland is also a major source of newsprint.
> jack
I don't. Good riddance.
The people who read newspapers are conservatives and they do not like what they read.
So, the end of newspapers is near!
On Mar 15 09:03 AM elwoodsuggins wrote:
> Good riddance to the NYT
Teutonic
On Mar 15 04:17 PM john s. gordon wrote:
> teutonic -
>
> finland is also a major source of newsprint.
What you're actually against is the fact that the media have until recently prospered with the approach they have now, because most people aren't as conservative as you, and that the only reason they're not prospering now is due to changing societal communication and information consumption patterns, not to the unattractiveness of their editorial approaches. You're like an ugly person who claims all mirrors must be flawed.