1100 Tonnes Now in the GLD Trust 29 comments
March 20, 2009
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This graphic only gets updated when the world's most popular gold ETF, SPDR Gold Shares (NYSE:GLD), reaches a new milestone - either a one hundred tonne increment in holdings (amounting to about $3 billion in net assets) or when it passes a country's central bank holdings (GLD passed Switzerland a couple weeks ago).
It only seems like this chart appears here a lot because the ETF is adding "tonnes to the trust" at a furious pace - 323 tonnes so far this year, an average of six tonnes per day.
Full Disclosure: Long GLD at time of writing.
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Great question and most people never bother to read the fine print. As a professional money manager I am forced to go over this information. Here is what the trust says about leasing, etc.:
"Gold held in the Trust’s allocated account in bar form or credited to the Trust’s unallocated account is the property of the Trust and is not traded, leased or loaned under any circumstances. "
Hope this helps,
Lee Eugene Munson
On Mar 20 03:22 PM RJS Jr wrote:
> Can anyone confirm whether GLD leases its gold bullion in the same
> way that the central banks do? I own a decent amount of GLD, but
> am concerned about a potential short squeeze and counterparty risk.
read this data about GLD:
www.marketskeptics.com...
Also see centralfund.com/pfic/P... .
That said, I am not an accountant, so please check for yourself.
Excerpt from the term sheet
"...The right to payment in kind is limited to the standard unit of bars of around 12.5 kilograms with the customary purity of 995/1000 or better..."
www.swissfunddata.ch/f...
The alternative is actual physical gold through a gold bar account available at some of the major international banks with their own vaults, assay.
The order has to be worded along: Gold bar of 1 kg 999.9 fin xxx piece (s) weight 0,99999 kg or 32,148 ounces, separately stored, physically deliverable at all times in xxxx to xxxx, free of any lien, no lending, not part of the custodian banks assets in case of bankruptcy, lack of liquidity, credit or any other similar event. If not worded that way, the bank will open a precious metal account which is only worth the paper it is written on if the bank fails.
have a good day
HOWEVER, just after I did this, GTU issued new shares, the proceeds of which they said they use to buy more gold, so they don't see it as dilutive.
As a result of this, which I wasn't aware was going to happen, their share price dropped around 15% in one day, shortly after I had bought in. It was a heart stopping event, as I have quite a lot of money in gold !
The great thing was, when I called them at the number on the website, in Ontario, a real woman picked up the phone immediately -- no zombie phone rigamarole --, and talked to me for around 20 minutes, reassuring me that "don't worry, the share price will be back up on a few days" (it was).
They say on the web site they'll do this "from time to time"........in fact, I bought more shares at the lower price, and it's rebounded nicely, but the practice it seems to me is almost sure to reinforce short term speculation.
It's thinly traded in NY (less than 100K yesterday), and the share price is about half of GLD, so you get more bang for the buck -- but yesterday it was up about 0.43, while GLD was down.
AND it's based in Ontario, which I trust for some reason, more than the sharks in NYC.......go figure !
On Mar 20 05:08 PM lokiUnbound wrote:
> I would consider using GTU (centralfund.com) instead of GLD.
> GLD is taxed like gold, at the 28% collectible rate. GTU is a foreign
> passive investment.
>
> Also see centralfund.com/pfic/P... .
>
> That said, I am not an accountant, so please check for yourself.
And when that house of cards ends up collapsing the ONLY true Gold holders will be those holding Physical Gold.
Keep those printing presses printing for it will only end up as an even greater increase in the value of REAL Gold.
You can stuff the paper gold and the U.S. Currency up your arse.
Any questions after your review should be directed to your broker and/or the underwriter's customer service department. No one will protect you, certainly not the SEC or the Treasury Department-so we all need to do everything possible to understand our investments. If any one is investing in the precious metals etn's, understand how these differ from etf's.
Caveat Emptor, and good luck to us all...
www.marketskeptics.com...
parts 5
On Mar 21 10:44 AM econ_base wrote:
> Is this 1100tonnes figure audited to be physically sitting in the
> GLD vaults? How frequently is the audit and who is the auditor?
When I want to play gold, I use the DB double or inverse double, DGP or DZZ. Then all I have to worry about is the survival of Deutschebank.
May Santa drop gold coins in your Christmas stocking.
SOB.
On Mar 20 12:05 PM chazgil wrote:
> I just want to know where they are getting the gold from? COMEX deliveries
> are not increasing, central banks are not selling and China and Russia
> have stated that they are increasing their holdings. So where is
> the tons of gold coming from?
On Mar 20 12:05 PM chazgil wrote:
> I just want to know where they are getting the gold from? COMEX deliveries
> are not increasing, central banks are not selling and China and Russia
> have stated that they are increasing their holdings. So where is
> the tons of gold coming from?
The bullion is moved back and forth by sub-custodians at the custodian HSBC Bank in London, from the seller's vaults to buyer's vaults. GLD buys gold bullion bars from the market as needed to keep the notional value in line with $US price of gold in London. They only sell gold to pay fees. The Trustees of GLD denote each bar in possesion at the close of each market day.
They are audited regularly and the auditors have authority to inspect the vaults at the custodian.
They are not allowed, by definition, to trade any future contracts or lease their gold. When they buy bullion in a futures contract they must take delivery to maintain the NAV of the fund.
However, they do not insure their gold, that is a question of
low risk, because the stuff is durable, heavy and shows up on a metal detector. They are protected from custodial malfeasance by the courts.
So, as they say, its money in the bank, baby.
I represent 2 buyers who seek around 150 MT/month with rolls and extentions for 12 month period.