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These two charts make the case that the housing market has seen the worst of its decline, which started over three years ago. The first chart is Bloomberg's index of the stocks of major home builders, and today it is about at the same level it was at in mid-October. Despite all the terrible housing news, these stocks have not declined further in value on balance over the past six months—a good sign that all the bad news has been priced in.
The second chart shows the yield on 10-year Treasuries compared to the yield on FNMA current coupon conventional mortgages (homeowners pay a rate about 50-100 bps higher than that). What we see is the MBS spreads are back to "normal" levels while mortgage rates are at generational lows. Indeed, since the MBS market was first created in the 1970s, rates have never been so low. Add to that the fact that home prices are significantly below their highs in both nominal and especially in real terms, and you have a tremendous surge in housing affordability. No wonder sales activity is picking up dramatically in all the markets that have been the most distressed.
If you have been thinking of buying a home, don't delay much longer.
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Despite your doom and gloom and overall bad attitude, 91.5% of America is still working, and the unemployment is a lagging indicator anyhow. 93% of homeowners are still paying on time too. Prices are well in line with incomes and your free fall prediction is humorous.
Best of luck waiting for 1980 pricing to hit and enjoy that rental.
On Apr 06 08:53 PM Jonathan Rose wrote:
> Are you mad, truly insane or you just have no understanding of what
> is going on out in the real world. The market cannot bottom out until
> house prices become affordable in proportion with peoples salary's,
> hence deleveraging down to at least three and a half times salary.
> As everyone looses their jobs and employers see falling sales due
> to the depression this becomes accentuated and results in property
> pricing free fall. The stock market is down 50% or more and was not
> as over leveraged as housing. Expect to see another 30-50% off your
> neighbors house price until his monthly mortgage payment is equivalent
> to what he can rent it for
If you are thinking of buying a home, delay longer... much longer. During the 1990s housing price slide in Los Angeles, the 12 month moving average of home price change was negative for six years. This means that averaging the net change in home prices for any 12 month period indicated that the prices were falling from 1990 to 1996. Assuming that this recession is as bad as that of the early 90s, we can expect the home prices to increase in the spring of 2013. By all accounts, this recession is much worse than that recession, so 2013 may be optimistic.
Also, as Jonathan Rose pointed out, median home prices need to be inline with median incomes in the relevant market. According to Zillow.com, the median income in Manhattan Beach, Ca is $100,750, while the median home price is $1,433,500. This equates to a price to income ratio of 14.23:1. Clearly, this is no where near a 3.5:1 historical ratio.
Looking at the hardest hit areas of Los Angeles, like Compton, the price to income ratio is also no where near the 3.5:1 ratio. Median Price = $258,000; and, Median income = $31,819 >> 8.11:1.
Looking at the price to rent ratio for a middle of the road home in Torrance California:
Remax has this property at 22317 Madison St, Torrance Ca as a rental for $2750/mo. Zillow values it at $605,000. >> P/r = 1.22. Price needs to fall ~20% to be in line with the 15 time yearly rental income multiple. Since the asking price has been about 20% higher than the Zillow for properties in the nicer areas of SoCal, there is a big difference between what the sellers are asking and what the market dictates the value ought to be. It will take time for the hold-out sellers to realize that bubble prices were not real prices and accept lower values.
We may also need to go through a deleveraging cycle similar to 1931 to 1951 where the nationwide debt to GDP decreased over a 20 yr period until reversing in 1951. Also the interest rates are artificially low because the FED is keeping the rates at a low level. These low rates effectively prop up house prices. When capital is tight, then credit rates should be high so that money is lent to the person that can make the best economic use of the money. Look at the jumbo rate to see what the 30yr conforming rate ought to be right now. If the 30yr rate was 7% instead of 5%, then all financing buyer purchase power will decrease by about 20%. This will cause the housing prices to further correct by 20%.
I could go on with other discussion on relevant factors such as: unemployment, contracting GDP, new mark to market accounting rules, Alt-A and Option ARM resets due in 2010 and 2011, but I suspect that the author is trying to increase buyer interest in the market to his advantage and to the buyer's detriment. Maybe the author is a realtor, a seller, a homebuilder, a mortgage originator, or has some other vested interest in seeing the real estate market recover. He certainly hasn't taken much into account in his analysis.
At best the charts show that the homebuilders have found a temporary bottom. The spread I have been looking at is the yield on the 10yr note and the 30yr fixed mortgage rate. The difference between the two is the premium paid by investors for the extra risk present in the Mortgage backed security. This spread is a good indicator of the availability of capital to borrowers. Historically this spread is about 1.5 basis points. Today, this spread is 2.39. This is below the peak of over 3.0 a few months ago, but still well above historical norms. Why does this matter? Two words: market valuation. Markets aren't being properly valued in many areas because there aren't enough sales taking place due to the lack of availability of credit. The prices may go higher or the may go lower when the credit starts to flow again.
And by the way, jumbo loans require as much as 30% down to get those 7% 30 yr fixed rates. What is that going to do to the sales pace in Manhattan Beach where every sale is a Jumbo Loan?
Russ good points. Especially your last one. Jumbo's are hard to get and , compared with FHA, expensive. So, sales are of distressed properties with FHA loans. The prices will keep falling under this scenerio- as the median price falls.
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"Despite your doom and gloom and overall bad attitude, 91.5% of America is still working, and the unemployment is a lagging indicator anyhow."