Coming to America - Mitsubishi's All Electric Car 13 comments
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By Michael Kanellos
The electric car phenomenon rolls on. Mitsubishi (MMTOF.PK) announced Thursday that it will bring its i MiEV all-electric car to the U.S. The car will likely appear in Oregon first: the state of Oregon along with utility Portland General Electric are helping Mitsubishi by agreeing to build charging stations.
Mitsubishi did not put deadlines on when it will bring the cars to the states, but it could be sooner rather than later. It will start releasing the cars in Japan in July. Shipping in July will mean that Mitsubishi will become the first company to ship a “practical” electric car.
The company has a point there. Right now, you can buy a cheap electric car from Zenn that tops out at around 25 miles per hour or a $109,000 Tesla Roadster, but there’s not a lot of options in between.
Mitsubishi is focusing on mid-range cars like Nissan, but it also has high-end sporty prototypes like the cars from Tesla Motors and Fisker Automotive. (Fisker is a plug-in hybrid but mostly runs on electricity.) And, like Nissan (NSANY), it will initially sell to government agencies and fleet car buyers. These sort of cars don’t leave town much on road trips so the limited range of electric cars are less of a problem.
The i MiEV runs on a lithium-ion battery pack that can be charged in seven or so hours on a 240-volt line. High-speed charging could accomplish this task in less time, but good luck finding an outlet.
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On Apr 12 09:12 AM whisperonthewind wrote:
> Why can't they use part of the energy produced by the wheel rotation
> to charge an extra battery? Then we could just transfer 'cables'
> and keep on moving.
Whisperonthewind's suggestion bears merit. Too bad some inane comment linked it to perpetual motion.
Since when does "perpetual" motion involve a secondary device. Two, that's 2 batteries, per car, one charges as the other runs. Cable switching, Unnecessary, just automate contact switching.
Uniform charging stations or adjustable cables or something else...Solar panels like those proposed by Toyota can also extend Battery life.
$700 Billion in infrastructure spending, Imbed old fashioned Trolly Car tech into the nation's highways. Need a charge, get one on the move.
All sorts of things can be done until someone comes up with a better Battery.
Will anything be done?, highly unlikely. Every state will have its own agenda. So, it will be back in the hands of the Private sector.
The Manhattan Project worked because the Government kept it secret and out of the hands of the Pencil Pushers.
But this Government wants to dismantle those that have the wherewithal to fund multiple research projects. We are screwed.
Just a personal opinion
As for power, concentrated solar thermal with heat storage (CSP) is quite unlimited if enviro's make sure that the deserts aren't bulldozed over. Nobody could be against Billions of mirrors that are post driven! The only problem I have with all of this is: Will America get any jobs out of the deal!
IT DON'T Work!
Just go on to nat gas and let it morph into hydrogen produced from water by natural sources. Hydroelectric, wind, solar, waves, currents, and the list goes on.
If it takes 7 hrs to charge LI-Ion on 240V, it must be a large pack with a lot of range. So what's the need for charging stations outside the home? Something is wrong here.
If it has no IC engine like a hybrid, the cost should be a lot lower, comparable to an economy car. The main cost is the battery pack.
Bty, battery tech is about twice as efficient than the old dream of electrolysis. (The science is here to prove it, I mean on the search engine). Its place, though, may be found in the storage of on site energy produced by non base load power sources. CPV is twice that of CSP yet does not store as CSP, therefore, it is up to all you experts out there to determine which is the best and cheapest longterm option.
Largescale clean energy is expensive only because of all the nimby's and enviro retrocats out there, (don't they know about mass manufacturing techniques as in "robotic"?), Are not even the Saudi's looking into solar with storage??? It will definitely be cheaper than fossil fuels in ten-twenty years!