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By James Kwak
The New York Times is reporting that the administration is thinking of stretching its TARP funds further by converting its preferred shareholdings to common stock:
The change to common stock would not require the government to contribute any additional cash, but it could increase the capital of big banks by more than $100 billion.
I hope this is one of those trial balloons they float and later think better of. Most importantly, it makes no sense. That is, there’s nothing fundamentally wrong with converting preferred for common, but it doesn’t create anything of value out of thin air. I wrote a long article about preferred and common stock a while back, but here are some of the highlights:
- If you don’t give a bank any more money, it doesn’t have any more money. By converting preferred into common, you haven’t changed the chances of the bank going bankrupt, because its assets haven’t changed, and its liabilities haven’t changed. If it had enough money to cover its liabilities, but it couldn’t buy back its preferred shares from Treasury, it’s not like the government would have forced it into bankruptcy anyway.
- If you accept the idea that converting preferred into common creates new capital, then you are implying that those preferred shares weren’t capital in the first place. From a capital perspective, then, the initial TARP “recapitalizations” did nothing, and nothing happens until the conversion. You can’t say that JPMorgan got $25 billion of capital last fall and it’s going to get another $25 billion now just by virtue of the conversion.
- Tangible common equity and Tier 1 capital are just two ways of measuring the health of a bank. Taking money that wasn’t TCE and calling it TCE doesn’t serve any economic purpose. There is a minor benefit to the bank because now it doesn’t have to pay dividends on the preferred. But otherwise you’ve just shuffled together the claims of the last two groups of claimants - the preferred and the common shareholders. You’ve made things look better from the perspective of the common shareholders as a group, because they no longer have preferred shareholders standing in front of them, but the total amount available to all shareholders hasn’t changed.
Is there another way to explain this even more simply?
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I'm glad these select few know what's best for us. This way we don't have to think. Thinking hurts.
Policy makers read all that, took six months to digest what was said, and have decided that yep thats right, those were good arguments and now they will be instituting those policies.
Of course, the investment community, including those on this site, moved past TCE as an issue about a week after the November lows. Welcome to wonderland
Kind Regards
That's a silly idea, Washington would never put power and influence ahead of sound fiscal policy.
The stress tests were conducted to determine how well, if at all, the top 19 banks in the USA could withstand further or future economic hardship.
When the tests were completed, regulators within the Treasury and inside the Federal Reserve began bickering with each other as to whether or not the test results should be made public. That bickering continues to this very day as evidenced by this "main stream media" report.
The Turner Radio Network has obtained the stress test results. They are very bad. The most salient points from the stress tests appear below.
1) Of the top nineteen (19) banks in the nation, sixteen (16) are already technically insolvent.
2) Of the 16 banks that are already technically insolvent, not even one can withstand any disruption of cash flow at all or any further deterioration in non-paying loans.
3) If any two of the 16 insolvent banks go under, they will totally wipe out all remaining FDIC insurance funding.
4) Of the top 19 banks in the nation, the top five (5) largest banks are under capitalized so dangerously, there is serious doubt about their ability to continue as ongoing businesses.
5) Five large U.S. banks have credit exposure related to their derivatives trading that exceeds their capital, with four in particular - JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, HSBC Bank America and Citibank - taking especially large risks.
6) Bank of America`s total credit exposure to derivatives was 179 percent of its risk-based capital; Citibank`s was 278 percent; JPMorgan Chase`s, 382 percent; and HSBC America`s, 550 percent. It gets even worse: Goldman Sachs began reporting as a commercial bank, revealing an alarming total credit exposure of 1,056 percent, or more than ten times its capital!
7) Not only are there serious questions about whether or not JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs,Citibank, Wells Fargo, Sun Trust Bank, HSBC Bank USA, can continue in business, more than 1,800 regional and smaller institutions are at risk of failure despite government bailouts!
The debt crisis is much greater than the government has reported. The FDIC`s "Problem List" of troubled banks includes 252 institutions with assets of $159 billion. 1,816 banks and thrifts are at risk of failure, with total assets of $4.67 trillion, compared to 1,568 institutions, with $2.32 trillion in total assets in prior quarter.
Put bluntly, the entire US Banking System is in complete and total collapse.
If this is true, and this leak gains traction expect the media blitz to discredit it to be swift, ie they wall have cramer and the rest of the gang at CNBS and bloomberg radio talking green shoots everywhere and that this is total BS, at which point you know it's the truth...
On Apr 20 09:32 AM mac123449 wrote:
> The Turner Radio Network has obtained "stress test" results for the
> top 19 Banks in the USA.
>
> The stress tests were conducted to determine how well, if at all,
> the top 19 banks in the USA could withstand further or future economic
> hardship.
>
> When the tests were completed, regulators within the Treasury and
> inside the Federal Reserve began bickering with each other as to
> whether or not the test results should be made public. That bickering
> continues to this very day as evidenced by this "main stream media"
> report.
>
> The Turner Radio Network has obtained the stress test results. They
> are very bad. The most salient points from the stress tests appear
> below.
>
> 1) Of the top nineteen (19) banks in the nation, sixteen (16) are
> already technically insolvent.
>
> 2) Of the 16 banks that are already technically insolvent, not even
> one can withstand any disruption of cash flow at all or any further
> deterioration in non-paying loans.
>
> 3) If any two of the 16 insolvent banks go under, they will totally
> wipe out all remaining FDIC insurance funding.
>
> 4) Of the top 19 banks in the nation, the top five (5) largest banks
> are under capitalized so dangerously, there is serious doubt about
> their ability to continue as ongoing businesses.
>
> 5) Five large U.S. banks have credit exposure related to their derivatives
> trading that exceeds their capital, with four in particular - JPMorgan
> Chase, Goldman Sachs, HSBC Bank America and Citibank - taking especially
> large risks.
>
> 6) Bank of America`s total credit exposure to derivatives was 179
> percent of its risk-based capital; Citibank`s was 278 percent; JPMorgan
> Chase`s, 382 percent; and HSBC America`s, 550 percent. It gets even
> worse: Goldman Sachs began reporting as a commercial bank, revealing
> an alarming total credit exposure of 1,056 percent, or more than
> ten times its capital!
>
> 7) Not only are there serious questions about whether or not JPMorgan
> Chase, Goldman Sachs,Citibank, Wells Fargo, Sun Trust Bank, HSBC
> Bank USA, can continue in business, more than 1,800 regional and
> smaller institutions are at risk of failure despite government bailouts!
>
>
> The debt crisis is much greater than the government has reported.
> The FDIC`s "Problem List" of troubled banks includes 252 institutions
> with assets of $159 billion. 1,816 banks and thrifts are at risk
> of failure, with total assets of $4.67 trillion, compared to 1,568
> institutions, with $2.32 trillion in total assets in prior quarter.
>
>
> Put bluntly, the entire US Banking System is in complete and total
> collapse.
>
> If this is true, and this leak gains traction expect the media blitz
> to discredit it to be swift, ie they wall have cramer and the rest
> of the gang at CNBS and bloomberg radio talking green shoots everywhere
> and that this is total BS, at which point you know it's the truth...
...and just who does the Treasury thinks its fooling? Not only is the absence of value in such a transition obvious, so too is the fact that the US taxpayer steps down to the bottom rung of the rights ladder in any bankruptcy of these banks. The bond holders will be made whole, the preferred stock holders may get something, and the equity shareholders--including billions of taxpayer dollars converted from preferred--will get absolutely nothing. How stupid, how disingenuous, how incredibly arrogant and untrustworthy can the US Treasury become under Geithner?
But as far as this "not changing anything" I think you've missed the point. Originally TARP funds were set up as a liability. That means the Banks actually have to pay this money back. Preferred shares are debt plain and simple.
Converting this capital to common equity actually takes the capital OFF the liability side and yet leaves the assets intact. This move essentially means that the banks don't have to return the capital. Instead, other common shareholders are on the hook for the capital. (I say other common shareholders because the government claims that it eventually intends to sell the shares)
Now in the case of Citigroup where the government will own 36% of the stock, that is a huge seller waiting in the wings. The common stock will have a hard time rising to a strong fundamental value when you have such a large shareholder with a stated intent to sell.
But the bottom line is that Citi is no longer liable to repay the TARP money - that's good for the long-term viability of the company, and great for existing bondholders... but it's a pretty tough pill to swallow for existing shareholders. The one good side for shareholders is that there is now less of a chance that Citi will go bankrupt leaving them with nothing.
Zach
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The taxpayers investments being converted from preferred to common devalues common stock holdings while inflating preferred. So it seems this is a strategy designed to attract large player capital investments. So the taxpayers are getting the risky end of the stick. If the re-inflation fails, the large players have a 'get out of jail card'.
The next part of the accounting 'fix' concerns removal of 'mark to market' accounting, which allows the banks to represent their loans at upwardly adjusted prices, thereby providing large improvements to their balance sheets.
It's all very interesting, but what happens if the default rate on those bad loans keeps climbing? People that are unemployed are not going to be able to service their loans. I see a lot of accounting fixes, but so far I don't see any fixes for our economic engine … unless our economic engine is mostly concerned with building speculative bubbles and Ponzi schemes. Is that all there is?
Back to the sidelines.
And not only that, it helps cash flow. The TARP preferred paid 8% I believe.
They should rather be worried how to create jobs, but of course, we have to heal our beloved financial buddies first - then the economy will recover. They think that when banks will start to lend like crazy it's all gonna be fine and house prices gonna be on fire again and toxic assets will become the hottest edge of financial innovation again. But wait a second, banks are not lending more
1) because they're f*cked; 2) because we have recession on our hands and people/companies borrow less during downturns.
So with their logic we get out of this vicious cycle, with broken banks leading us through. + The same people who got us into this are in charge of things. So now we have:
Preferred shares = nonsense. Common shares = kickass capital. Toxic assets = diamonds in the rough. DEBT = WEALTH.
Can you believe this is really happening? This isn't some rubbish orwellian "DOUBLETHINK", or CNBC's "GROUPTHINK", no sir.
IT'S FOR REAL. AND IT'S HAPPENING NOW.
It is good to see banks aren't buying their own lies and are boosting their reserves anyway, however, it shows up the profitability and accounting lies. If their assets didn't drop why are they boosting reserves. If their business is so profitable why are they cutting back lending? 1+1 in bank acounting seems to equal + or - whatever you want it to be.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out their is something wrong with their alleged rosy earnings figures. It will be even more apparent as they rush to raise capital on the fictional acounting profits this quarter. Why does a profitable bank dilute its shareholders when it is reaping a good profit? It doesn't.
Folks, I am no genius but I have been wondering why this is all new exciting bad news. I have been posting to these items and wondering why no one has been talking about them and why it has taken the market trading morons to recognize these problems.
Whatever the reason, its time to start shorting this baby and ride it down to 5500, that's right, we will be lucky if it stops there by September!!