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The quality of this rally is low…. The move is powerful but the underlying raitonale weak.
- Greg Feirman, Top Gun FP Client Note: The Facts Are Stubborn, April 27
[The bounce was] in extraordinarily dubious quality names. These were names you would have had to have a lot of courage to be invested in [prior to the rebound].
- Mathew Rothman (subscription required), Global Head of Quantitative Equity Strategies, Barclays Capital
The Wall Street Journal hit the nail on the head in an article on the front of yesterday’s Money & Investing section: “Can A Rally Last On Diet of Junk? Low Quality, Low Priced Companies Have Ruled the Day - So Far, At Least” (subscription required), Tom Lauricella, The Wall Street Journal, C1, April 27.

As you can see from the chart from the WSJ article, the rally has been led by financials and consumer discretionary companies: up 76% and 43% since March 9, respectively - compared to a 28% gain for the S&P 500 overall. These are the companies with the worst fundamentals.
Four of the five biggest contributors to the S&P’s rally have been: JP Morgan (JPM), Wells Fargo (WFC), Bank of America (BAC) and General Electric (GE). E*Trade (ETFC) is up 319%, Citi (C) 204% and Huntington Bancshares (HBAN) 200%. PF Chang’s (PFCB) has more than doubled while McDonald’s (MCD) is up just 4%. Walmart (WMT) hasn’t particpated in the rally at all - up just 1% since March 9.
This kind of market action suggests speculation and unsustainability to me.
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While I agree, I cannot help but mentally apply that last statement to a lot of recent financial history, not just since the March bottom.
One drawback of a relatively free and prosperous society is a lot of stupidity can survive amongst the plenty. In this case, I mean bad corporate governance and bad public policy. These stupidities periodically kill the prosperity, and threaten the freedom. And here we are again.
Could not agree more, Jasper. Take any big company, even the well run ones. There is a lot of chaff that rides on a few productive workers. You can get rid of a quarter of the workforce and the 'real' value added will not decrease. What keeps them there is the usual mediocrity that is rife in big organizatons. Few managers & CEOs have the vision/drive for continuous improvement.
On Apr 28 05:13 PM Cetin Hakimoglu wrote:
> Usually in a new bull market the beaten-down speculative stocks tend
> to outperform.
Why don't you all realize that the market is down almost 50%. It was down almost 60%...That the markets were pricing in depression prices.
Just because typical servere contractions see a huge over-reaction to the downside before returning to the norm doesn't mean this time that will occur. I love how doom and gloomers get to say "this time is different" and at the same time say "this time is the same" when it suit their thoughts.
None of you is right or wrong because predictions are cheap and impossible.
Over the last 16 months the doom and gloomers are right. Over the last 2 months Cetin is right. Who cares really unless your timeframe was 16 months or 2 months.
"on either Goldmans payroll or the administrations"
Is there a difference? : )
On Apr 28 05:51 PM Gregorian wrote:
> Market is based upon confidence. Why dont we just pretend everything
> is ok?
I do not for a moment believe we are in a new bull market but I think this rally will surprise for some some time to come.
asb
If this rally only lasts another month, so what? If you like to buy a stock and hold it for two years, maybe you should be sitting in cash right now. But if you want to buy something and keep a tight stop on it, taking what the market will give, why not play now?
We are not finding new natural resources.
Companies can no longer reduce labor costs in Asia as these costs have bottomed.
And we no longer have viable consumer market.
You need three things for capital creation :1) cheap labor, 2) cheap resources, 3) consumer market. We are running out of all of them.
We are entering a long period of economic stagnation, and personal pain.
MARK MY WORDS! You'll feel it too!!!
On Apr 28 10:49 PM CJJ wrote:
> Over the last 16 months the doom and gloomers are right. Over the
> last 2 months Cetin is right. Who cares really unless your timeframe
> was 16 months or 2 months.
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You need three things for capital creation :1) cheap labor, 2) cheap resources, 3) consumer market. We are running out of all of them.
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A good description of the state of capitalism, a crisis of over-production (or demand destruction). This will play out in years though, and while 2010 will hit like a "ton of bricks", outside any external massive demand stimuli, 2009 will be the last year to "party" for the last of the trapped longs.
So, if your 401k was reduced to a 201k, use 2009 to get out with, perhaps, a 301k. Such a chance might not come again in a generation, or at least until 2023, according to the proprietary investment rate model by Thomas Kee.
Good luck to all, and yes, if you're a nimble trader, as long as the market is open, there are opportunities to make some cash.
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