Chrysler's Bankruptcy: Historic Changes for Markets? 24 comments
-
Font Size:
-
Print
- TweetThis
When will the stock and bond markets begin to reflect the huge changes in bankrutpcy and contract laws that President Obama has demanded and is demanding from Chrysler’s bondholders?
After reading numerous comments on Chrysler’s filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, it’s clear that lawyers, investors and bond buyers are very worried about how the president is blaming and bullying Chrysler’s creditors for the company’s bankruptcy.
The consensus of all but the pro-union and pro-Obama types is that the president’s disrespect for 200 years of bankruptcy law precedent will make it very difficult for companies to sell bonds and borrow money in the private markets. The president is in the process of destroying the credibility of borrowers and the trust that has made our corporate debt markets work for generations.
Unionized corporations will find it will be especially difficult and expensive to borrow from banks and bond buyers. This is because the unions have so much political clout with Obama and Congress that a lender can never count on the contracts that they write with borrowers being enforced. The Democrats seem bent on rewriting the laws in the favor of unions and at the expense of lenders.
If this nonsense continues, the Rust Belt’s manufacturers are in big trouble. Most depend on selling billions in bonds to the private markets, and they work hard to maintain reasonably good credit ratings to keep their borrowing costs under control.
Now, what happens to a deeply in debt General Electric when it wants to refinance in the bond markets? Why will anyone want to lend to it, given its close ties to the Obama administration, which is known for helping its friends?
Until today, the markets have ignored the implications of the trillions in budget deficits and debt that Obama and Congress are putting in place.
But after a nice 100-point rally this morning, the market faded and closed lower.
Could this be because investors are coming to realize the troubles that the stock and bond markets will be in if corporate America’s borrowing costs are inflated by changes in bankruptcy law and our most powerful politicians’ growing disrespect for contract law?
Look for a bunch of blogs and articles about companies whose ability to borrow will be hurt by the Obama administration’s bullying of Chrysler’s bondholders.
Time to sell corporate bonds?
Read the comments that follow articles about Chrysler’s bankruptcy on Seeking Alpha, the WSJ (especially here) and the NYT. The unhappy campers are out in force.
Disclosure: I don't own GE. I do own Vanguard's Total Bond Market exchange traded fund (BND).
Related Articles
|

























This article has 24 comments:
Like the weren't before?! Not to belittle the various bad ideas in play re the Chrysler situation, but isn't this a bit like complaining about the method of execution of a terminal cancer patient?
Just as we are all having to adjust to a much riskier world, especially as taxpayers, so will those who buy corporate debt?
Ultimately it's all a matter of pricing risk correctly.
The ratings agencies should be doing a better job in assisting this process although at the end of the day large institutions are paid well enough to make those risk determinations themselves.
AS for CDS players, you better hope you bought insurance from someone that can pay. And I don't mean AIG. If they ask for bailout to help those who are shorting corporate America and expect to get paid out think again. This is even more politically distateful than AIG helping Goldman short the mortgage market before it imploded.
you are supposed to paper your bathroom wall with it like i do.
> jack
I personally did a web search of one of the principals of the hedge funds - that held out against Chrysler. Only to find that Stairway Capital's principal has offered seminars on setting up these "financial knots" for distressed investments. To them it is never about people, or economy, or country. The president was right in not standing with them - I wish he would have went one step further, and forced them to compliance as a matter of national interest. After all your taxpayer money is funding the hedge fund insurance.
I say go-bama. If he had the power to clear house in the SEC, and the State banking commissions. Our Nation may have a chance at a bright future. Citizens need to help Obama by standing up to your state reps, and making them reorganize the audit departments in banking.
But keep writing. Mr. Johnson; Expressing differences in opinion are what truly made our Nation great.
So in an environment where we still have no universal healthcare, the government seems determined to fund the health plan of a privileged group, to do it with money it tries to take extra-legally from investors who had put up hard cash to fund a premier American employer's operations, and at the same time bad-mouthing the bond investors. If instead he would implement national healthcare there'd be no need to go through contortions to transfer wealth to the union health plan in the first place.
It is good that this one is ending up in court where the US President is not the ultimate decision maker.
Bad-mouthing bond investors! I have trouble believing it. People willing to accept modest returns and willing to take one a narrower risk than the average stock investor. Lots of retired folks have bonds from companies like GM or WM or Chrysler. Why is the union more important than them, other than pure politics??
Disclosure: I was wiped out on WM bonds, and exited a Chrysler bond position within the past year.
At the end of the day we are all somewhat relieved by Chrysler's move to bankruptcy protection. There is a real opportunity now for the company, it's stockholders, lenders and employees to work together to rebuild this company.
Wages and costs have not fallen enough yet though. This is not going to be a popular thought but we are in competition with the whole world now. We will greet that competition with some sacrifices and it must be done for the survival of all the automakers. Let's make it happen. All costs need to come down. There are no "special" groups ahead of everyone else.
The company will live or die on the support of all stakeholders, or lack of support as the case may be. Dramatic changes need to be made. That means sharing the pain around equally for everyones benefit.
The grim alternative is that Automakers in India, China, Korea etc will take up the slack and do what we cannot accomplish here. If we do not cooperate now, we will be second place in this industry for a generation. Perhaps it will never be rebuilt.
Time to take one for the team.
Cam
The article is "Chrysler's bankruptcy won't be quick."
online.wsj.com/article...
It's rule number one of efficient markets.
But once the government 'saves' and then owns AIG, BofA, Chrysler or any other corporation, why shouldn't the government control it?
And who, in the end, can stop the government from controlling what it owns?
Anyone who buys 51% of a company's stock expects to control the company. It's the way the game is played.
To survive, these corporations have made a Faustian bargain with the devil, who is We the People, and once a corporation gets in bed with We the People, they shouldn't expect their corporate dreams of wealth and power to last.
Until they are re-privatized that is.
These are lessons from Europe but America doesn't even know there is a classroom.
It will be a bumpy ride.
The poison theatened to infect Daimler which saw it's once precious asset ,It's reputation for quality.diluted by the need to prop up Chrysler like some sort of alcholic spouse . We know the rerst,Daimler,hurting but surviving ,Chrysler dying from within and suddenly it finds yet another bunch of suckers ready to buy it a drink...let it die before it drags America down with it.
On May 01 08:14 AM russ wrote:
> The column is dribble. Crysler was going to go bankrupt if the Goverment
> had not been involved, no one interferred with the process. There
> has been more stability and less panic than would have been the case.
> Without the governmnet, the bonds would have become worthless and
> had no market anyway. No one prevented banruptcy, it has just been
> more orderly.
There was nothing better to expect from the beginning.
As my dad used to say: You cant build a castle with a pile of sh*t.
Those who want to believe that anybody involved with Chrysler after Daimler left, would have loved to build great automobiles, may dream on. To me they were ignorant of the car business.
It takes more than cheap money to be competitive.
BTW: The current spouse just recently got back from rehab.
On May 01 05:37 PM I am not a number.. wrote:
> Why didn't anyone bother to see or ask why Daimler AG dumped Chrysler?
> That had to be a corperate coup of the first order and yet knowone
> took on the information that must have been there for all to see.
> Chrysler may have been able to float along for decades but it's glory
> days were in the early 1960's when they were next to Daimler in terms
> of automotive engineering and a reasonable amount of quality. From
> then on it was disaster after another.
> The poison theatened to infect Daimler which saw it's once precious
> asset ,It's reputation for quality.diluted by the need to prop up
> Chrysler like some sort of alcholic spouse . We know the rerst,Daimler,hurting
> but surviving ,Chrysler dying from within and suddenly it finds yet
> another bunch of suckers ready to buy it a drink...let it die before
> it drags America down with it.
>