Market, Economy Downward Spiral Has Been Broken 28 comments
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We have been on record for the past month with the view that a major market bottom was made in early March, when fears of financial and economic Armageddon peaked. The technical market action over the course of the past two months’ rally is much more characteristic of a sustainable new uptrend than a short-lived bear market reprieve. The downward spiral in the economy and markets has been broken (regrettably at the cost of a massive extension of government credit and obligations).
Leading economic indicators and consumer confidence readings have improved to a degree that indicates the worst of the economic downturn is behind us. Consequently, investors have begun the process of moving away from the heavily defensive posture of two months ago. We have seen a broad-based rally in risk assets, and a simultaneous retreat from “safe havens” such as Treasuries, cash, and gold. Emerging markets stocks surged 17% in April, the best monthly gain in 20 years, and high-yield corporate bonds returned 11% in April, the best monthly performance for that asset class in its history.
Short-term, risk assets are overbought. The S&P 500 has gained 30% off the March 9 bottom, and has not suffered more than a two-day pullback over this period. “Higher beta” equity indexes have run up even more: MSCI’s U.S. extended markets (small and mid cap stocks) and emerging markets indexes have gained approximately 40% from their lows. A period of correction or consolidation could begin at any time, but if a durable rally phase has indeed begun, which we suspect is the case, pullbacks on the S&P 500 will be limited to no more than 10%, and probably closer to 5%.
Looking out over the balance of the year, the risk/reward in stocks still appears favorable. Although the bullish camp is gaining more adherents, there is still ample skepticism for risk assets to climb the “wall of worry,” which is so typical following a major bear market low. There is a bearish argument that any significant rise in prices will be met with selling from investors seeking to recoup earlier losses, or a move to the safety of cash until they can “figure out” this confounding investment environment. But that hasn’t happened - at least not yet. The stock market has held up extremely well in spite of overbought conditions. Instead, there seems to be a bullish “selling vacuum” at work. The chart below suggests that at the depths of first quarter lows, U.S. households collectively had already moved into such a defensive position with respect to their stock allocations that selling pressure literally dried up.

Despite a strong initial rally from the March 9 low, stocks remain near the bottom of their tenyear range. From its present level, the S&P 500 would need to gain 10% per annum for six years to return to the peak levels reached in 2007 and 2000 peaks.
S&P 500 10-Year Nominal Price Performance [click to enlarge images]
The loss of value in the stock market this decade is even more dramatic when adjusted for inflation. When inflation (measured by the CPI) is applied to historical stock values, which is what is done in the chart below, the S&P 500 is currently 55% below the inflationadjusted stock market peak in March 2000.
S&P 500 10-Year Inflation-Adjusted Performance
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This recovery is largely based on largess and deceit by Government.
That will not produce a sustainable rally. When the Pollyanna's realize the man giving them lovely candies just wants to shag them, then watch the panic set in.
If your guess is correct it is just the prelude to the further expansion of the public debt now totaling 94 Trillion. This will do what debt did in the fall of 2008, pressure the stocks - not all- but most down again.
What happems when iy comes back out?
Hint: 1934
Using that as a comparison we are nearly 3 years in, as many bankers, builders and realtors saw the beginnings of this in 2006. We are 1 year in from where equities really started to deteriorate and 6 months removed from the freefall. My point is that the Asian credit crisis did not take but a few years to heal. Those expecting an L or U shaped bottom as well as many bear market rallies and retracements, may be in for a surprise.
I think it's great to look back at the 30's or the 70's, but the 30's especially seem to dissimilar to be valid. It seems the driving factor to looking that far back is that event was the nearest drop in equity percent value to current. The 70's/early 80's are often used to compare because of similar projected unemployment and/or an oil spike. However the primary reasons behind then and now are violently different (for now, impending inflation?).
On May 04 12:00 PM VP of Common Sense wrote:
> It is interesting that so many people are trying to compare this
> event (credit/currency crisis) to past DOW events. Evidently this
> qualifies as "out of the box" but I would think the best comparison
> would be to the Asian financial crisis of 1997. Not only is that
> relatively recent, but the root causes and effects are quite similar.
>
>
> Using that as a comparison we are nearly 3 years in, as many bankers,
> builders and realtors saw the beginnings of this in 2006. We are
> 1 year in from where equities really started to deteriorate and 6
> months removed from the freefall. My point is that the Asian credit
> crisis did not take but a few years to heal. Those expecting an L
> or U shaped bottom as well as many bear market rallies and retracements,
> may be in for a surprise.
>
> I think it's great to look back at the 30's or the 70's, but the
> 30's especially seem to dissimilar to be valid. It seems the driving
> factor to looking that far back is that event was the nearest drop
> in equity percent value to current. The 70's/early 80's are often
> used to compare because of similar projected unemployment and/or
> an oil spike. However the primary reasons behind then and now are
> violently different (for now, impending inflation?).
So... I love all the talk. It's entertaining...particu... the calls I've seen lately saying "Buy and Hold is Dead!!!". I'll be content to sit back and follow the old philosophies of Diversification, Dollar-Cost Averaging, and regular portfolio rebalancing. It ain't glamourous. It doesn't make for an interesting article. But down the road, I'm guessing this approach will beat 95% of the investors who think they somehow know more about the market then everyone else. The road to bankruptcy is paved with the bodies of those who think they are going to beat the odds and the market. I don't plan on being one of them.
Now, when sharks are feeded and at any point may go for an exit, you are bullish?
America's economy is much more comparable to Japan's than to Indonesia/Thailand/Mal... Our recession will parallel their own more than it will parallel the Great Depression, the Stagflation 70s, Asia/Russia/Mexico or other busts.
On May 04 12:00 PM VP of Common Sense wrote:
> qualifies as "out of the box" but I would think the best comparison
> would be to the Asian financial crisis of 1997. Not only is that
> relatively recent, but the root causes and effects are quite similar.
On May 04 12:00 PM VP of Common Sense wrote:
> It is interesting that so many people are trying to compare this
> event (credit/currency crisis) to past DOW events. Evidently this
> qualifies as "out of the box" but I would think the best comparison
> would be to the Asian financial crisis of 1997. Not only is that
> relatively recent, but the root causes and effects are quite similar.
>
>
> Using that as a comparison we are nearly 3 years in, as many bankers,
> builders and realtors saw the beginnings of this in 2006. We are
> 1 year in from where equities really started to deteriorate and 6
> months removed from the freefall. My point is that the Asian credit
> crisis did not take but a few years to heal. Those expecting an L
> or U shaped bottom as well as many bear market rallies and retracements,
> may be in for a surprise.
>
> I think it's great to look back at the 30's or the 70's, but the
> 30's especially seem to dissimilar to be valid. It seems the driving
> factor to looking that far back is that event was the nearest drop
> in equity percent value to current. The 70's/early 80's are often
> used to compare because of similar projected unemployment and/or
> an oil spike. However the primary reasons behind then and now are
> violently different (for now, impending inflation?).
At this moment, the likely culprits:
1) CRE crash
2) Eastern Europe crash
3) Another unknown Black swan crashes?
I wish we were out of the woods, but that's simply not the case. We are currently in between stages of real estate defaults that going to bring out the bear again. The defaults rate looks to be picking up again probably around mid summer.
There will be lots of bear market rallies, but I wouldn't look for the true bull market to start until most of the bad debt has been cleared out of the US economy.
I get the Japan comparisons, right up to the point where our government intervention differed from theirs. The biggest difference being that their government took a decade to fully admit what was going on.
I also agree that a credit contraction of this size has not occurred before, but the basis of my comparison is that monetary flow was interrupted, theirs via the bhat, ours via poor underwriting.
Finally while our economy and that of Thailand may be very dissimilar the repurcussions of both have been felt world wide, and "while history does not repeat, it usually rhymes".
new jobs are not being created, and state sales tax receipts continue to be terrible. until new jobs get created and sales tax receipts quit stinking there is no recovery, period. generally, you cannot start a rally with a housing surplus either (yeah, THAT would be 'most likely' lol).
note, i am not bagging on traders, just warning the enthusiastic
Also, I am not a technician, but an interetsing weekly inverted head and shoulders (if that is what it is called) is forming in most equity indexes. I agree that we could see another 10% maybe, that will pull in those who think they missed "it", but a retest of the 750 range on the 500 could be possible. I agree with MGA that there are still some skeletons that could easily and likely derail sustainability.
On the surface, 10 weeks of positive upside without a correction is pretty unnerving, when all of the news is out, hedging and profit taking may be best as I do not expect an "economic" V shape.
The Dow looks vulnerable to lower than 6500, almost 5000 and even 4500. One has to ask the question will the damage done by the obliterated stocks bring ´down the others that were just staying above water. I think it will becaue of the economic damage done. Even in Japans long nightmare they had nice rallies.
The Obama administration spends a couple Trillion dollars.
Then I see their first round of budget cuts.......100 Million......!!!
Great...they only have to cut a 100 million dollars from the budget 10 million more times and we are at a Trillion dollars in budget savings. Half way home!
Never mind the treasury bond interest, the government can just bail out the treasury later.
Now today Obama figured out the corporations are just hiding the extra cash we need........somewhere.... we will get it all back.
Really! It's all sunshine.....pass the heroin please.
Now the same pundits and press are signaling "All Clear". The current administration is anxious to get this economic crisis in the rear view mirror so they can get on with more pressing items on it's agenda. As part of that effort, they can take credit for saving us all from Armageddon.