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With the rapid increase in oil prices that has occurred since signs of recovery have been reported in the market the electric car is about to be back in focus with many investors, the major automakers are gearing up to produce electric cars by 2010.
Nissan (NSANY) says it could beat General Motors' (GM) highly publicized Chevrolet Volt to market, selling an electric car as soon as fall 2010 with an eye-popping fuel-economy rating equivalent to 367 miles per gallon and a range of 100 miles on a charge. The electric car does not use petroleum fuel directly. The mpg equivalent is calculated using a federal formula that takes into account the fuel an electric utility would use to charge the car.
EV Innovations (EVII.OB) is competing in the Progressive Automotive X Prize, the race to build a 100-mpg car. Ron Cerven, director of product development at EV Innovations says he’s lined up more than 2,000 investors and will have 10 Wave cars finished by next year. He says the Wave will feature a lithium polymer battery that can recharge in eight hours. It will provide juice to a 43 kilowatt (about 58 horsepower) motor. It all rests in a steel and aluminum chassis, and Cervan says well-heeled buyers will have the option of a hybrid composite or carbon fiber body. The vehicles were on display at the New York International Auto Show.
Ford (F) said Wednesday that it will begin producing a battery-power version of the next-generation Focus compact sedan at a converted Michigan truck factory in 2011. An early prototype gets 357 mpg, using the federal math.
Chrysler continues to insist that it will field an electric in 2010, though it's currently in Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization and is mostly shut down
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I'm not saying electric cars are a bad idea, I just don't like it when people use obviously false numbers to try to reel in dupes. I'm also getting tired of individuals who have connections to investment groups using websites like this one to seed market bias towards their long or short positions. This borders on insider trading and you know it.
Wait, there are no electric cars in Europe? Well, heck! That must mean that high oil prices won't lead magically to electric cars.
Or go to the website of their recently formed US company at sev-us.com and check out the News Room page for details of major customers lined up to buy the 7.5 ton Smith Newton delivery truck.
For the depot-based delivery fleet (such as every postal delivery service) the distance limitation of battery powered vehicles is not a problem - and this segment of the market is growing. Three UK companies and two US companies are now addressing it.
The car market is lagging behind electric vans and trucks - but these fleets will usefully trigger volume production of batteries, which in turn will help lower the cost of electric cars. It's a one way tide.
Do you have any knowledge on the "air" car:
zeropollutionmotors.us/
A future IPO?
On May 07 03:07 PM Steve in Greensboro wrote:
> Of course, higher oil prices will certainly lead to the widespread
> adoption of pure electric vehicles, just like they have done in Europe
> with their almost universal use of electrics.
>
> Wait, there are no electric cars in Europe? Well, heck! That must
> mean that high oil prices won't lead magically to electric cars.
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I just had a quick read of the Zero Pollution site, the technology looks amazing and the association they have developed with Tata Motors looks very promising. This would make a great IPO.
On May 07 09:20 PM Sober Realist wrote:
> Sutida,
> Do you have any knowledge on the "air" car:
> zeropollutionmotors.us/
> A future IPO?
The company I work for is developing electrical energy storage 1-LTL.com so some bias may exist with my responses.
All-electrics on the other hand, have the potential to be inexpensive because the drivetrain is simple and cheap. Especially if, as Stan points out "truck fleets will trigger volume production of batteries, which in turn will help lower the cost of electric cars".
So the Feds have an MPG equivalent for plug-in all electrics. LOL. Makes sense that whatever they came out with would be controversial. It's a pretty basic dollars and cents energy conversion dependent on vehicle efficiency and assumed electric / gasoline prices.
My own criteria for an all-electric around town commuter vehicle is that is has to look like a regular subcompact - Corolla/Yaris, Civic/Fit, or Versa, have a top speed of 80MPH (approx 35KW / 47hp) and get 80 miles plus between charges on a continuous 60 mph course. What's so difficult about these specs?
Of course, this isn't a road trip car or a haul the boat car.
There are a lot of DIYers out there converting cars to close to these specs, displaying a hell of a lot of Yankee ingenuity.
Instead we get everything from high performance primo dollar toys like a Tesla or Wrightspeed, to ugly Chinese knockoffs that are probably not importable due to safety regs.
Since Nissan is touting a basic Versa for less than $10K these days, I would expect an all electric version to be $7500. This is what the Feds should be stimulating with incentives and battery warrantys. Whatever it takes. The market should be huge at this price point, which is the problem for carmakers.
So, unfortunately, I think in the near future, some Asian company like Tata will license a battery technology and make a killing.
Even plug-in hybrids have serious deficiencies in that regard. The up to 100 mpg ads are wildly misleading. Check the link for some real world data.
www.wired.com/cars/coo...
It's pretty much commonly accepted now that despite the amount of coal used to generate electricity, electric cars are far better for the environment.
Electric utilities aren't too concerned about recharging cars. In fact, since they anticipate most recharging to be done at night during off-peak hours, they welcome it as a profit opportunity.
Nice Wired article. I agree that retroing a Prius to plug-in is marginal , as demonstrated by the results. This is because even though it is one of the "strongest" parallel hybrids out there, the ICE still plays a big role.