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We often hear passionate satellite radio investors and fans clamoring for 100% auto installation penetration. On it’s face it may seem like a great idea, but the reality of the OEM picture is different, and Sirius XM (SIRI) demonstrated that Wednesday at their annual meeting.

Sirius XM demonstrated the dynamics of smart growth in the OEM channel, and it is a strategy that the company is focused on. A vehicle such as the Cadillac Escalade enjoys a 70% take rate. This means that 70% of those vehicles equipped with SDARS become self paying subscribers. By contrast, economy cars carry a 30% take rate. A substantial difference.

It is not only the take rate that matter, though. The length of time to see a return on the money invested is also a major consideration. Vehicles that have a 70% take rate become a “break-even” proposition after only 12 months, while the 30% take rate vehicles take 29 months to become a “break-even”.

The length of time it takes to get a return on their investment needs to be a major consideration of Sirius XM. While a subscriber acquisition cost of $61 may not seem like a big number, it becomes substantial when you multiply it by a million. In simple terms, would you rather get back an investment of $61 million in 12 months, or 29?

Right now it is smart growth that Sirius XM need more than a bigger penetration rate. Expanding penetration is great when a company is making money, and that day will come. Understanding the dynamics of the OEM picture becomes important because it is such an integral part of the Sirius XM business model.

Disclosure: Long Sirius XM Radio, No Position OEM’s

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    I dont see any bashers. Damn, thought there was some fresh meat here.....
    Only See Mr. Stupid, cant tell if hes just emotional unbalanced, extremely nervous, or has a hard time sticking to decisions. Not qute sure yet. Some good posts, so very strange posts.
    May 29 06:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    Relmar, I respect your knowledge and scrutiny of Siri stock but please stop looking for bashers and start looking at the stock. You can lose focus.

    Frank


    On May 29 06:09 PM relmar2003 wrote:

    > I dont see any bashers. Damn, thought there was some fresh meat here.....
    >
    > Only See Mr. Stupid, cant tell if hes just emotional unbalanced,
    > extremely nervous, or has a hard time sticking to decisions. Not
    > qute sure yet. Some good posts, so very strange posts.
    May 29 06:16 PM | Link | Reply
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    Ok Frank. It was a joke. Sorry. Your style would work better on a message board, or an open forum. Posting for quick advice on seeking alpha probably is a bad idea.
    May 29 06:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    Half the batte of the MM's is to convince you to sell for less than you would have if the stock hadnt just tanked.
    May 29 06:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am telling you on M onday will be the worst for this stock because of GM and the following reports dont put your eggs all in one basket. We at Alpha dont want to hear you wine as well "what just happened was there any bad news about Sirius"

    "Is there bad news about the Iphone"

    "Maybe jay boy billy was right"

    all these are ignorant statements meaning if it goes down the market is driving the stock down"


    On May 29 06:16 PM Mr. Stupid wrote:

    > Relmar, I respect your knowledge and scrutiny of Siri stock but please
    > stop looking for bashers and start looking at the stock. You can
    > lose focus.
    >
    > Frank
    May 30 10:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    oh and by the way the stock has just been downgraded from long to Nuetral and this was stated today 5/30/2009 which it has not moved to this position for about 5 months
    May 30 10:34 AM | Link | Reply
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    Just so you all dont get any ideas I am not trying to bash the stock as well since I have shares of it. I state what I read and usually it comes from Etrade from the reports....
    May 30 10:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    Maybe so Maybe not, I sold a nice chunk of shares in afterhours to take profit and use to buy back if you're correct on your assumptions. In any case I come out a winner, not a whiner.
    Frank


    On May 30 10:29 AM jmsithy wrote:

    > I am telling you on M onday will be the worst for this stock because
    > of GM and the following reports dont put your eggs all in one basket.
    > We at Alpha dont want to hear you wine as well "what just happened
    > was there any bad news about Sirius"
    >
    > "Is there bad news about the Iphone"
    >
    > "Maybe jay boy billy was right"
    >
    > all these are ignorant statements meaning if it goes down the market
    > is driving the stock down"
    May 30 11:13 AM | Link | Reply
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    Yes but reverse split would be off the table if the stock by itself runs to $3-4. The only thing that would make it run that high would be the clearing of debt. It could literally run back up as fast as it fell if this were to happen. Who would gain from this. The debtholders who recently converted for one. I say you look at the signs and when debtholders convert to commons(which is us) then that is a good sign of things to come. Another good sign is insider activity. Take a look at GM, you will see the insiders not only selling for the last month or two but completely liquidating their positions. Thats why that info is there. We can also look at who recently was trying to obtain SIRI. Why was there a struggle for a worthless company? Why all the interest in this company? Its because they have more than enough assets to cover all their debt and some once the software is lined up and that takes a minute. SIRI has had years to learn the dos and donts. Right now they are in line for a steady run back to business and keeping their eyes peeled to fend of the competition and that takes a lot of money that they have access to. We shall see where the next two Q's take us and the stock price.


    On May 29 05:41 PM itsjust$ wrote:

    > don't you think in a year Sirius will be 3-4$, I do, either because
    > of
    > the reverse
    > stock split will happen or Barracks Stimulus will have a phone call
    >
    > costing $5
    May 30 01:28 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm throwin' in the GD towel if I have to advertize for this F'ing company ... I have 20,000 shares at 3 bucks in this MF , so I am long as hell , but I keep seeing things happen that are good for Siri cash burners , but the commons get deeper and deeper in the hole , now 9,000,000,000 shares are authorized , and you notice there is no shareholder "say" , in compensation ( That one got voted down rather conveniently ) ..... I'm half tempted to sell this crap at .34 and go buy a F'ng motorcycle ...... F this SH , I am sick of even hearing the damn word " SIRI " ......... and for anyone who thinks a reverse split won't happen ????? SIRI runs on credit , and they need a new line of credit , wiping us out , opens that door ..... RS to 10.00 pps (1-30) , short back to 5.00 pps , and poof , you open another line of credit for the future , sucking in a new batch of common investors , and in two years a 10.00 pps ( which is exactly where we frickin' started from !!!!! ) ....... That is my amateur and humble opinion , and all you data freaks can rake me across the coals if you want , but I am pissed off at this damn company , partly because I am down of course , but partly because I see NOTHING from those living high on the hog on credit , that seems to give a SHT about us ...... NO compensation reduction ( except maybe laying off the night shift janitor who probably needs the job badly ) , but Mel and Howard , and you name 'em , are eating F'ing caviar , while trying to figure out ways to GET MORE CREDIT ..... and then I read posts saying " WE need to advertize for those PUNKS " ..... This is not a personal attack on any bloggers here , just the mindset SIRI has created in us ...... WE feel it's our job to save the F'in company !!!!!!! AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGG !!!!! and yes , I Know , satrad is here to stay , but are WE ??? ..... Honda or Harley ?????? ....


    On May 29 08:24 AM Come on Guys Lets get Sirius! wrote:

    > You guys need to advertise for them! I have a bunch of videos up
    > on youtube. if you search for Eminem Relapse, my video comes up as
    > the sixth or 7th one I have over 170,000 views! I just mention how
    > Eminem has his own radio station on Sirius! So many people dont know
    > this and he has millions of fans across the world! Lets advertise
    > for SIRIUS!! Post Videos, etc.. Just advertise!
    Jun 02 12:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am going to de-bunk the myth that " institutional investors will not touch a stock under 5 bucks " ..... Does ANYONE really think that if Siri were to have some fantastic results , indicating a long term profitable future , the institutions would not jump in at .34 ?????? But they would wait until the stock got to 5 bucks ?????? Institutions may PREFER a stock over 5 bucks , but I don't believe for a minute , they wouldn't buy in at .34 , if there was a ton of money to be made ..... Rules on Wall Street are like Female Russian Gymnists .... They are quite limber and flexible ... and yes this is MVHO , but if there is ONE thing I KNOW - There are two worlds ..... The one that we are told exists , and the one that really exists ....... and in the world that really exists , rules and laws , are only for poor people ( occassionaly a rich person goes down for good copy though ) .... and yes , I am feeling very very cynical today ......
    Jun 02 12:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    What F'ing good is it to have 3-4 pps after an RS ??????


    On May 29 05:41 PM itsjust$ wrote:

    > don't you think in a year Sirius will be 3-4$, I do, either because
    > of
    > the reverse
    > stock split will happen or Barracks Stimulus will have a phone call
    >
    > costing $5
    Jun 02 12:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    that is very true generally investors only search for stocks that are 5.00 or above / penny stocks are generally used to short selling and never really go anywhere unless there is legit news about the stock and not speculation. That is why I am at least waiting until after june to see if this stock goes anywhere after the reports of the new Iphone Apps / If it happends I only have 3k invested so it will not break me


    On Jun 02 12:36 PM shure46 wrote:

    > I am going to de-bunk the myth that " institutional investors will
    > not touch a stock under 5 bucks " ..... Does ANYONE really think
    > that if Siri were to have some fantastic results , indicating a long
    > term profitable future , the institutions would not jump in at .34
    > ?????? But they would wait until the stock got to 5 bucks ??????
    > Institutions may PREFER a stock over 5 bucks , but I don't believe
    > for a minute , they wouldn't buy in at .34 , if there was a ton of
    > money to be made ..... Rules on Wall Street are like Female Russian
    > Gymnists .... They are quite limber and flexible ... and yes this
    > is MVHO , but if there is ONE thing I KNOW - There are two worlds
    > ..... The one that we are told exists , and the one that really exists
    > ....... and in the world that really exists , rules and laws , are
    > only for poor people ( occassionaly a rich person goes down for good
    > copy though ) .... and yes , I am feeling very very cynical today
    > ......
    Jun 02 12:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    Sure46, I too was in your same situation. I have a little above 20,000 at 3.0 I kept buying down, now my average is at 1.0. I think we should all advertise for Sirius cuz they arn't any we have a lot of OUR money tied up in this MF. So Come on Guys Lets get Sirius!
    Jun 02 01:53 PM | Link | Reply
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    kind of dull around here with nothing new to report at least it was kept interesting with all the blogs / there isnt even any new speculation with the stock
    Jun 02 02:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    well I am hoping after the WDCC meeting next Monday this make some improvement on the Sirius app getting the word out there / thats if it will even show during that time
    Jun 02 03:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    FCC Extends Comment Period On Sirius XM Channel Leasing

    Updated 0 Hour(s) 39 Minute(s) ago
    The FCC needs more time to hash out a plan for the newly merged satellite giant Sirius XM to slice off two dozen of its radio channels for leasing to a separate entity for public service programming and targeting the underserved segments of the national audience.
    The commission today pushed the new deadline for the satcaster to implement its voluntary commitment to enter long-term leases to June 29. It is the third extension announced by the commission. The first deadline for splitting off the channels was last fall, then extended to Feb. 27, and again extended to May 29. The FCC reports that during the period, commenters "raised a number of additional concerns and proposed a range of models to implement the leasing condition." The commission’s Media Bureau "anticipates commission action on the implementation guidelines in the very near future, and thus this brief extension is appropriate," the agency said in making the extension announcement.

    For months, the FCC has been receiving comments from a slew of high profile broadcasters and from media upstarts hoping to get a slice of the satellite spectrum for their very own, or just offering an opinion about what tact the FCC ought to take with the opportunity. Among the commenters have been Radio One, Entravision, Metro Radio Korea, FluteRadio, Hispanic Information and Telecommunications, and RSS Network Corp.

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    Among the hardest lobbying efforts this year has been led by Malik Shakur, president of Los Angeles-based iClick2Media who has been involved in several top-level meetings with FCC brass over the way he’d like to use the two dozen channels. The former Hollywood filmmaker’s most recent meeting with Washington was a May 18 teleconference. He was joined by Manjari Prakash, advisor to iClick2Media and Michael Wahba, president of AlphaStar International Inc., and they spoke with counsel to acting FCC Chairman Michael Copps, Jamila-Bess Johnson and Copps’ chief of staff, Rick Chessen. The following day, Shakur and his attorney, Jeneba Jalloh Ghatt, of the Ghatt Group based in Chevy Chase, Md., spoke with counsel for media issues to Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein, Rudy Brioche.

    According to documents filed with the FCC following the meetings, the group urged the FCC to implement the set-aside "in a manner that is mindful of small independent content producers, many of whom may have been unable to, or have tried and failed to engage Sirius XM in carriage negotiations because of their lack of influence, counsel or other reasons. Given the fact that the merger created a monopoly situation, eliminating choice of programmers, iClick2Media and AlphaStar urged the Commission staffers to adopt an approach that would enable the most amounts of content suppliers to gain carriage as possible. The venture iClick2Media and AlphaStar propose to engage, American Independent Radio, is proposing to eliminate roadblocks to carriage for small content producers, many of whom who have been unsuccessful in reaching mass markets of radio listeners, via satellite or terrestrial radio."

    For months, the FCC and representatives from Sirius XM have met in Washington on various occasions to discuss how the 4% set-aside of satellite channels will be implemented. The most recent meeting was May 20 when a platoon of lawyers -- Robert Pettit, Gregg Elias, Jennifer Hindin and Joshua Turner – all from Wiley Rein LLP and Sirius XM executives Patrick Donnelly and James Blitz, all representing the satellite company, met with Robert Ratcliffe, Sarah Whitesell, Royce Sherlock, Marcia Glauberman, Rosalee Chiara, Belinda Nixon, Mania Baghdadi, Rebekah Goodheart and Elvis Stumbergs of the FCC Media Bureau, Joel Rabinowitz of the FCC Office of General Counsel, and Gardner Foster of the FCC International Bureau.
    Jun 02 04:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    none


    On Jun 02 12:41 PM shure46 wrote:

    > What F'ing good is it to have 3-4 pps after an RS ??????
    Jun 02 04:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    that statement was sarcasm....(along with $5 phone call, that implies
    inflation).....
    Jun 02 04:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    hey it is not as bad as Obama taking his wife out on the town to New York for a date on your Tax money
    Jun 02 06:09 PM | Link | Reply
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