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Zero Hedge pointed out how abysmally hilarious CNBC's repetitive conclusion that GM's bankruptcy is a done deal, when you only have 20-35% of the bondholders on deck. True, Rattner will likely make some urgent phone calls, and attempt a gut (and wallet) wrenching appeal to the holdouts, referring to such flights of fancy as the holdout's mother, family, the IRS, the SEC, etc. But even all that does not preclude those who believe they stand a chance of getting a better recovery in liquidation than a 20% warrant upside in a company that has in the past made such utter horrors as the Aztek, in appealing to district and, eventually, supreme court.
In fact, ZH is quite confident that Mr. Lauria is currently contemplating just what the best overtures to the Supreme Court should be for both Chrysler and GM. Whatever these are, the fireworks will hopefully be interesting: luckily Sotomayor is still not up and running.
As for the facts, Dealscape has a great interview with Jeff Marwil of Proskauer who lays it out straight:
"It's not a deal if it's only 20% of the bondholders agree, and it doesn't mean the plan will succeed. It just means the government has support now from some bondholders, and bankruptcy now seems like a foregone conclusion," Marwil explained.
"I think the greatest challenge will be doing it right the first time and emerging from bankruptcy poised for success. Who knows how long the bondholders will fight? This will be the biggest bankruptcy ever so there are a lot of issues to get resolved," he said.
In other news, ZH has it Bowling Green spies reporting, and I hope to bring to our readers the moment when Gonzalez puts Peck to shame with the fastest steamrolling of the bankruptcy process in recorded history.
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and find your information very one sided and biased
this is more journalist spewing than real information.
Beyond that, I'm rooting for the bond holders and bankruptcy law.
I found it pretty informative, even though I think the Monday bankruptcy announcement is probably inevitable. I've been buying these $1 puts for a couple of weeks now.
But I am prepared to receive instruction from those with a clearer view of things. Anybody?
GM boldholders won't be as easily bullied as Chrysler's were, they're more spread out and diversified. Obama will once again try and shaft bondholders and give GM to the UAW, but I see a major fight brewing. Let's hope we're still a nation of laws and not of men.
New fuel standards don't come into effect until 2016. I understand that there is lead time required for redesign, but for the short turn, there is no immediate effect
And in the longer term, they may be repealed by 2016.
The American suppliers, vendors and dealers.
GM & Chrysler's best customers
Fired.
And yet, they talk about "preparing for success"
bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa
Who is going to be left to buy your overpriced junk? Now made both unsafe, crappier and MORE overpriced.
No customers = no sales = future next bankruptcy
Party on.
> jack
Actually the Aztek is a really nice vehicle but it didn't appeal to many folks because of styling. The same could be said of a few models from Honda and Toyota. I know folks who bought a new Aztek every year until the model was dropped. If you had ever driven one you would never compare it to a Pinto or Vega.
On May 28 10:39 PM conceptwizard wrote:
> Obamas new fuel targets will be a challenge along with making cars
> people want. Pick 6 models make them well and warranty them strong.
> They make a few models now that sell. Keep the prices down. I still
> believe the business model they have will be obsolete before they
> start. In order to compete on a world market you have to have wages
> competitive to the median. The wages & benefits here compared
> to other parts of the world are way higher. Ford & GM can build
> the same car at half the cost outside the country, they have been
> for some time. This is an attempt to maintain a dying business model
> by saving votes using taxpayers hard earned money. If they are going
> down this road they might as well throw out the competition via protectionism.
> At least that way we would be guaranteed our money back.
Follow up sir: Is the president’s judgement as a black male as good as an hispanic female?
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On May 28 06:15 PM Tori wrote:
> Seeking Alpha is the worst, most biased publication on the internet.
On May 28 05:17 PM Mister Jimmy wrote:
> OK, the Aztek was a horror. But, this is the same company that also
> produces the popular Impala, hugely exciting new Camaro, market-share
> growing new Malibu, two (2) pick-up trucks that are tradesman favorites
> (Silverado and Sierra), the immensely popular Chevy Tahoe, the Suburban,
> and legendary Corvette. It's so typically one sided, and SO typically
> Seeking Alpha, to throw a failed product out there and imply that
> it defines the entire company.
A new GM did not become viable just because our government ruined old GM investors & bondholders and infused billions of US$ into already failed business model: the same greedy and lazy unions having more influence on management decisions. Operations did not become any better.
As for the US government, printing tons of monopoly-money is a one-way ticket to its own bankruptcy.
On May 29 09:01 AM TeresaE wrote:
> No one is taking into account the true losers of these bankruptcies.
>
>
> The American suppliers, vendors and dealers.
>
> GM & Chrysler's best customers
>
> Fired.
>
> And yet, they talk about "preparing for success"
>
> bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa
>
> Who is going to be left to buy your overpriced junk? Now made both
> unsafe, crappier and MORE overpriced.
>
> No customers = no sales = future next bankruptcy
>
> Party on.
On May 28 05:27 PM Larus wrote:
> I have read Alpha for a few months now
> and find your information very one sided and biased
> this is more journalist spewing than real information.