Will Natural Gas Be the Next to Rally? 36 comments
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It’s hard to get overly excited about natural gas when inventories are 22% above their five-year average and 31% above last year’s levels, and the gap between current inventories and historical averages has been rising steadily throughout the year. However, while the fundamentals aren’t necessarily attractive, the historical relationship between the price of natural gas and oil is nearing record extremes.
With oil nearing 70 and natural gas below 4, the current ratio between the two commodities is now over 18. Following prior periods when the ratio went above 18, while natural gas hasn’t always rallied, it has always outperformed oil. Additionally, as we near the end of the second quarter, natural gas is entering what has historically been its best quarter of the year. As shown in the chart below (click to enlarge), the commodity's average return (using the front month futures contract) during the third quarter of the year has been 12.95% with positive returns 63% of the time.
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This article has 36 comments:
Shale production throws this argument to the ground. There was no shale production before; there is now. Therefore your historical relationship is of dubious use.
Now we need something that makes it move. . . traders. I mean, just look at the crap with oil last week. High stoage, falling usage, yet Government Sachs reportedly has a big bet on. So as the rally tires, they upgrade their target from $65 to $85. And what was the fundamental basis? They say it was the USD falling, yet the move was disproportinate between the two.
Back to NG. It is hurricane season. We don't even need a storm to hit anything. We only need to give the traders an excuse to rip it. And after Da Boyz have reaped their gains, then they will send out all their talking heads with higher price targets to persuade the sheeple to take what will then be their overpriced shares.
So, how to trade? Thursday, during the weekly bungie jump, I bought a bunch. This week, more cheap shares should be available either from market selloff, oil selloff, or just make up whatever you want. Eventually, a hurricane will be in the discussion and the traders will do what they do.
The primary fundamental I am watching now are the US dollar and implications for inflation. Given how cheap it is, this would seem like one of the safer places to hide. In general, I like commodities now. DBA I like as well.
Shale gas production increasing like a flying banshee...whatever that means. But yes, gas production from the shales continues to skyrocket, even though storage is very high and prices are at or below the increment cost to drill, complete and operate the new shale wells. Part of that has to do with the expiration of leases...you have 3 years to drill and if you don't you lose the lease and have to re-lease at higher costs. So folks are drilling lots of wells to "hold the leases" with production. Production holds the lease for as long as the production continues.
If you are long UNG you are waiting for the greater fool.
Both.
"Are any new power plants scheduled to come on line in the Next 12 months? If there are, what will they be using?"
Yes, and most are gas-fired combined cycles.
"9-12 months from now, there will be a big surge in energy demand. That's not really very far away."
No. Energy demand growth is very steady and has actually moderated previous to the economic downturn. See EIA data. The energy demands are not an issue; its an issue of fuel input cost. Nat. gas and coal are the competitive fuels for power demand; with normally NG setting the margin.
"Shale gas production costs vs price of Nat. Gas?"
Depends on the producer and who you ask. And the competitive cost of coal matters also (nymex spec, not PRB), and the demand for met. coal from the steel market (which is weak right now). And you have to consider that several producers sold their forward production last year at very good prices.
"I certainly don't have a clue but I do know that LNG is favored for no reason I can Fathom."
LNG is how you get gas to places without enough production, or without enough storage. The US is the last place where LNG ends up at; meaning if no one else will take it, it gets dumped on our market. There are about 7 diversion points before the commitment has to be made to take the cargo to the US.
On Jun 08 01:51 PM Mmarrkk wrote:
> Why is LNG favored? Because people invested billions and billions
> into the facilities and now will run them at their ultra low operating
> cost structure and ship the gas. Once you've made a $5 billion investment,
> you have to get revenue, even if you make a very small profit margin.
>
>
> Shale gas production increasing like a flying banshee...whatever
> that means. But yes, gas production from the shales continues to
> skyrocket, even though storage is very high and prices are at or
> below the increment cost to drill, complete and operate the new shale
> wells. Part of that has to do with the expiration of leases...you
> have 3 years to drill and if you don't you lose the lease and have
> to re-lease at higher costs. So folks are drilling lots of wells
> to "hold the leases" with production. Production holds the lease
> for as long as the production continues.
1) climate change's exacerbation of hotter summers and perhaps colder winters?
2) a possible increase of demand for use by nat-gas-powered vehicles (the T. Boone Pickens scenario), which brings up the further Q of JUST HOW LIKELY THIS DEMAND-INCREASE MIGHT BE in the near term.
For the far-term future: when the Peak Oil situation becomes REALLY intolerable, it will necessitate, i would think, a massive-scale switch to more nat-gas powered vehicles along with far more hybrids and also sugarcane-ethanol imports.
Not that likely. Fleet vehicles can do it, but average Joe cannot. The distribution network just isn't there, aside from the fuel density issues; you don't tote around LNG in a car... That means big CNG tanks with lower specific energy than petrol; not a winner in the auto world versus PHEV's. Besides, given the vol of NG over the last year, would you really want to price to that?
1. While shale ng has provided most of the production growth we have seen, no one is really talking about the sharp decline rates that those wells experience after their first year of production (my guess is avg decline rates of 20-25%, sometimes as high as 45%). That coupled with the fact that land rig counts are down around 50% in 6 months, means that at some point there is going to be significant supply destruction, as there are not enough new wells coming on.
2. Shale gas production is not cheap, probably around $3 on average, with some areas with a cost of over $4ng. I think that this is/will give us a bottom in the ng market prices, as it is not economical for many operators to produce at low prices.
3. Right now, 50% of US ng production comes from wells completed in the last 40 months (Fort Worth Basin Oil & Gas publication). Think about that fact, and combined it with the current sharp decline in number of rigs drilling, as well as well decline rates, and you have a supply problem that should rear its head sometime this summer.
4. An LNG train is extremely expensive to build, some estimate around $7b. One would imagine that a pre-requisite of building a multi billion dollar plant is having long term contracts secured, so the impact of LNG is probably going to be less than bears have been forcasting.
In all, I think NG is a great long position. It looks like we have an opportunity to buy a commodity just as the pendulum is beginning to swing in the other direction. Supply/Demand should even out with an improving economy, variables are cap and trade, hurricanes, currencies, and inflation among others.
...which is exactly why I think oil needs to come way down.
Regarding shale, the decline rate is steep--aggregate Barnett production is down 20% over the past 9 months, with a lot of the wells already past the steep one-year decline curve. Same holds true for other shale plays, but as they are younger than the Barnett they are falling faster. Barnett I believe is producing ? 8 BCF a day and falling. Marcellus is hampered by lack of infrastructure to boot.
Demand destruction is the issue here; natural gas price rebound is a gamble that our economy will gear back up with increased industrial gas consumption. Supply looks like it should be tight based on the above--but a lot of operators have shut in wells and have drilled and cased wells but haven't completed them. There is a lot of gas behind pipe (PDNP) waiting for some price recovery to be put on line. It will take a while for this overhang to be worked through without a significant turn around in our economy.
cbrev, the breakeven for some of the shale plays is higher than your numbers--on the order of $5-6/mcf depending on the play. Also, these are wellhead prices not Henry Hub. (Well head is discounted rel to H. Hub). It is hedging that is keeping the rigs in the field--and that will only last so long.
but the speculators (read goldman sachs) won't allow cost of oil futures to drop.
> jack
On Jun 08 10:15 PM Freya wrote:
> There is also the possibility of being able to export same. LNG doesn't
> have to be a one way street if supplies are ample.
The risk/return on this long term play is excellent given the price floor near the cost of production. And with 80% IVs on LNG, you can sell calls according to your bullishness and significantly increase returns.
Long UNG (avg. 14.50), short Jul 17 calls
On Jun 08 02:59 PM cbrev wrote:
> A couple comments on LNG and Shale Gas:
>
> 1. While shale ng has provided most of the production growth we have
> seen, no one is really talking about the sharp decline rates that
> those wells experience after their first year of production (my guess
> is avg decline rates of 20-25%, sometimes as high as 45%). That
> coupled with the fact that land rig counts are down around 50% in
> 6 months, means that at some point there is going to be significant
> supply destruction, as there are not enough new wells coming on.
>
>
> 2. Shale gas production is not cheap, probably around $3 on average,
> with some areas with a cost of over $4ng. I think that this is/will
> give us a bottom in the ng market prices, as it is not economical
> for many operators to produce at low prices.
>
> 3. Right now, 50% of US ng production comes from wells completed
> in the last 40 months (Fort Worth Basin Oil & Gas publication).
> Think about that fact, and combined it with the current sharp decline
> in number of rigs drilling, as well as well decline rates, and you
> have a supply problem that should rear its head sometime this summer.
>
>
> 4. An LNG train is extremely expensive to build, some estimate around
> $7b. One would imagine that a pre-requisite of building a multi
> billion dollar plant is having long term contracts secured, so the
> impact of LNG is probably going to be less than bears have been forcasting.
>
>
> In all, I think NG is a great long position. It looks like we have
> an opportunity to buy a commodity just as the pendulum is beginning
> to swing in the other direction. Supply/Demand should even out with
> an improving economy, variables are cap and trade, hurricanes, currencies,
> and inflation among others.
On Jun 09 01:45 PM Whippet wrote:
> Long UNG (avg. 14.50), short Jul 17 calls
UNG is the best risk reward trade in the market for remainder of 09.
Regards
Best to improve demand here in the US through nat gas cars/trucks, etc.
On Jun 08 10:15 PM Freya wrote:
> There is also the possibility of being able to export same. LNG doesn't
> have to be a one way street if supplies are ample.
I'm gonna have to agree with the folks that said to correct with ratio imbalance, oil needs to come down rather than nat gas going up.
Current chart shows flag formation indicating big move comming.
I'll guess higher, as traders move from one asset to another.
Also, politicians are discussing large LNG gates to be more independent from Russian gas, but also this requires time.
1. If you were going to take advantage of these quarterly observations, it would seen you could by options in either commodity or producers (or perhaps even midstream) in Q1 for expiration in Q3?
2. Have you done the same analysis on eitehr crude oil or gasoline that you could share?
"Also, some of the LNG import terminals can turn around and export the LNG they took in. But they cannot take nat gas produced in the US and liquify it and export it. It takes a very different facility and a bunch of billions of dollars to do so."
That's what Chenierre is doing...re-exporting the gas that's already liquified. Hence, no U.S. gas is being exported, just previously imported foreign LNG.
On Jun 10 02:19 AM Freya wrote:
> Mmarrkk: No can't do it? Then why has Cheniere Energy requested permission
> from the Department of Energy to do exactly that? (seekingalpha.com/symbo...)
>
>
> Cheniere is Parent of CQP whose LNG facility is almost fully operational.
> The Chairman of both has been selling LNG's shares and buying CQP
> shares.