Hyper-Inflation or Just Hype? 41 comments
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There has been a lot of talk lately about the risk of hyperinflation (meaning extremely rapid or out of control inflation). Once the domain of economists and financial geeks, the concept has reached into the popular culture. Recently, Peter Schiff made an appearance on "The Daily Show", and drew cheers from the audience when he reiterated his prediction that the US economy would collapse due to hyperinflation.
When economic ideas become popularized, they tend to succumb to hype. It's hard to make predictions, especially about the future (as Yogi Berra noted), but that's what markets try to do. How much is the market responding to this threat?
Investors have three traditional ways to hedge against inflation: precious metals, real estate, and TIPs. If concern about our currency is becoming as widespread as the buzz suggests, we should see demand for these assets increasing.
Precious metals, typified by gold, increased in value up until 2008, peaking slightly over $1000/oz.
To date, it has not exceeded that value. I know many investors are convinced that it will; all I can say is "show me the money."
But I admit that the ambivalent price of gold, in itself, is not proof that investors are ambivalent about future value of the dollar. Gold is a global resource; increased demand by US investors might be offset by weaker demand, or sales, elsewhere.
So... let's try closer to home, with TIPS (Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities). Analysts measure the market's "expectation of inflation" by the spread between yields on fixed-rate Treasuries and TIPS; the difference should express the expected inflation rate (since this value is added to the TIP).
| Maturity | Fixed yield | TIP yield | Implied inflation rate |
| 2014 | 2.83 | 1.41 | 1.42 |
| 2019 | 3.79 | 1.88 | 1.91 |
By this metric, the market is expecting below-average inflation over the next 10 years (and especially low in the next 5 years).
Here's another way to view the same relationship, by way of ETFs instead of individual bonds:
Here we see that investors have priced TIP and TLT (a long Treasury bond fund) at a near-constant ratio for 5 years, except for the panic last fall, when TLT became much more highly valued, due to the fear of deflation. The ratio has just begun to return to its long-term norm. Fear of inflation would drive it far above this line. Instead, we are in neutral. For every investor expecting inflation, there's at least one other one worrying about deflation.
Although this is a cleaner way to measure inflation than gold, it's not perfect. Some investors don't like TIPS because their value depends on the government's calculation of inflation, the CPI. So this indicator, too, is only suggestive of the larger question. Let's look at the last resort of the inflation-hedger, real estate.
At last, we have data which is unambiguous. Commercial RE values are plunging at an unprecedented rate.
This is a real threat to our financial system, as many other commentators have noted. The threat, however, is not inflation, but its opposite: deflation.
That makes three strikes for the hyperinflation indicators.
I'm not suggesting that any of these asset classes are useless; on the contrary, a well-balanced portfolio should include all kinds of hedges. But if you go all-out for the inflation hedge, you are years ahead of the market. That kind of position rarely pays.
Disclosure: the author maintains a small position in TIP.
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U.S. institutions and individuals have been too busy repairing balance sheets to worry about hoarding hard assets or other currencies. (Non-U.S. institutions are worried about that already.) What's more interesting is whether other fiat currencies collapse along with the dollar or if the issue is just contained to the U.S. (i.e. a shift away from the dollar as reserve currency). I tend to think that we will not lose reserve status unless it becomes clear to the rest of the world that our gov't is never going to raise taxes or end entitlement programs in order to pay down the debt. Once default becomes a serious part of the endgame for the mountain of U.S. debt, there will be a breathtaking rush to the exits.
given by Rees-Mogg and Davidson 20 years ago: Inflation comes
roaring back when people least expect it.
On Jun 15 11:31 AM MGA_1 wrote:
> There will be a tremendous amount of deflationary pressure for the
> next couple years due to housing and commercial real estate loan
> defaults. 2008 saw quite a bit of deflation, *except* for govt intervention.
>
>
> If we were to have inflation, then potentially hyperinflation, it
> would be purely through govt monetary policy. Bernanke has been injecting
> a tremendous amount of money into the economy and seems very intent
> on preventing that great evil... deflation.
>
> The thing to really watch for will be govt purchase of treasury bills.
> I think they will be forced to simply because of the amount of debt
> about to come on the open market which should spike interest rates
> thereby stifling any recovery.
>
> Direct purchase of t bills by the fed is inflationary. I actually
> expect them to do this through the upcoming year and also expect
> commodity prices to climb.
>
> If the fed ever has to directly monetize the interest on the debt,
> then it's game over and we will DEFINITELY have hyperinflation.<br/...
>
> How to prevent all of this? Balanced budgets and a gold backed dollar
> !
and wasn't going back to the gold standard part of England's problem right before the GD hit?
On Jun 15 01:22 PM Missing_Link wrote:
> On Jun 15 12:09 PM Angel Martin wrote:
but without the private debt reduction, the consumer won't buy their products.
consider Germany one of the most conservative fiscally, but also one of the most impacted by consumer demand collapse.
or China, without their small stimulus they would have had an even worse impact from consumer demand collapse
On Jun 15 01:50 PM long roh wrote:
> This article was fairly useless. I don't need the weather report
> to tell me that it's sunny outside right now. Similarly, I don't
> find it useful to read that we haven't yet begun inflation in earnest
> -- it tells me nothing about whether there is a hyperinflationary
> storm ahead.
>
> U.S. institutions and individuals have been too busy repairing balance
> sheets to worry about hoarding hard assets or other currencies.
> (Non-U.S. institutions are worried about that already.) What's more
> interesting is whether other fiat currencies collapse along with
> the dollar or if the issue is just contained to the U.S. (i.e. a
> shift away from the dollar as reserve currency). I tend to think
> that we will not lose reserve status unless it becomes clear to the
> rest of the world that our gov't is never going to raise taxes or
> end entitlement programs in order to pay down the debt. Once default
> becomes a serious part of the endgame for the mountain of U.S. debt,
> there will be a breathtaking rush to the exits.
From what I've read the factors leading to hyperinflation are:
* Large govt deficits
* Borrowing to support those deficits
The govt needs to monetize the debt directly. The game's over when the govt has to monetize the interest on debt.
Unfortunately, our situation looks a lot like Argentina before their hyperinflationary episodes in both 89' and 2000.
real growth = nominal growth minus stated inflation
true inflation = stated inflation plus the fudge factor
Substituting into our formula:
real growth = nominal growth minus true inflation minus fudge factor
The US government is the big borrower and coincidentally the US gov't compiles the statistics for inflation. The fudge factor is really a component of stated inflation, but the stats will have it show up as part of nominal growth and claim it as real growth. TIPS pay out based on stated inflation, not true inflation.
TIPS are a weak proxy for true because real growth is generally overstated and real inflation is usually understated.
I'll stick with Schiff's thesis. Thanks for trying to offer an alternative argument, albeit a weak one.
Printing excess dollars and borrowing creates hyper inflation. Energy prices skyrocket which is not measured in inflation but causes untold inflationary pressures. The resultant upward price pressures kill the consumptive capability of the remaining dollars which forces deflation and the realignment of value.
In the meantime, the cost of living rises and more people fail which leaves fewer and fewer consumers alive and well. There are only so many lifeboats and as on the Titanic, only the lucky minked will survive. Those from 2nd class down will drown.