Alt-A Mortgages: The New Subprime Meltdown? 19 comments
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The infamous subprime meltdown has come and passed, but does that mean that we are in the clear? Maybe, but a look at a Mortgage Rate Reset Timeline graph suggests otherwise:

This chart originated from an IMF report pertaining to the risks affecting global economic stability. See report here.
Assuming that Alt-A borrowers have a better chance of handling these resets, it shouldn't be as big of a shock as the subprime meltdown. But the economic crisis has worsened since that event, and borrowers may have an even tougher time repaying their mortgage, no matter what their credit rating is.
Fact is, we are definitely not in the clear yet, and any bump in the road could cause the economy to lose any traction it's gained. This combined with a recent report from the CoStar Group (Commercial Real Estate Industry Says Recovery is Not Around the Corner) could spell trouble for not only the real estate sector, but for the economy as a whole.
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While immediate interest rate risk is somewhat taken off the table, it doesn't mean that the overall effects of the economy (layoffs, wage decreases, etc) won't negatively affect the ability of a homeowner to continue to pay their mortgage or have the means to refinance into a solid fixed rate.
Am I misunderstanding this?
Do you ever notice that the truth you hear is bad news and all the good news is lies, or badly bent truth from the government or spin doctors?
On Jun 19 02:20 PM BostonObserver wrote:
> Weren't many of these Alt-A and Option ARM loans set with "teaser
> rates" as low as 1-2%? If that's the case, then the "owners" (mortgage
> holders) will see their monthly payments rise by 50% or more upon
> reset, even with today's very low rates.
>
> Am I misunderstanding this?
In our town, 43 single family homes have sold this year. The collective sale price across this set was just 0.5% above assessed value -- but almost every home that sold was initially listed at 5-20% above assessment, so reductions were basically built into the pricing from the start. Hope spring eternal.
Then factor in the longer term outlook, with resets looming on Alt-A and Option ARM mortgages, which I know became increasingly popular in our town during the 2004-2007 period. What does this mean for the next few years?
There are a dozen homes on the market now that I have an eye on (more for tracking purposes than any genuine in purchasing, given the prices). These dozen houses are collectively listed 9% above assessed value, so again they appear to be overpriced from the start -- and most have been sitting for 100 days or more already. Looking at comp sales for single family homes since January, these houses need to fall in price by at least 10% before they will sell.
Then I try to consider "fair value" on these houses (knowing of course that value is determined by whatever someone is willing pay). If I roll back to the assessed value of these dozen houses ten years ago, and then inflate the value forward at 5% per annum (generous by historical measures), the outcome implies a potential price decline not of 10%, but 20%.
I readily admit that this may be wishful thinking (I am a renter looking to buy), but it seems logical. Allowing for 5% annual price growth since 1999 on the set of homes I'm tracking today sets target prices that are 20% below current asking. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
I have my Condo sold in the Bay Area for $165,000, the appraisal came in at $135,000 the last Short Sale.
There were higher offers on the $135,000 property but The Realtor would not present them to the bank @ $145,000, a rigged sale.
Now investors are driving appraisals even lower while The Banks
are now accepting cash offers over financed ones.
We will not hit bottom until The Investors are done, 2011?
You can rent my unit 2 Bdm 1 1/2 Bath remodeled for $1250, nice place about 35 Min. from Downtown SF, swimming pool.
What a bunch of crap!
On Jun 19 01:47 PM TB1000 wrote:
> Resetting ARMs shouldn't be much of a problem right now as LIBOR
> has dropped to near historical lows. The problem in 2006/2007 was
> that LIBOR spiked several % points so when the ARMs reset, the payments
> were drastically higher and unaffordable for many.
>
> While immediate interest rate risk is somewhat taken off the table,
> it doesn't mean that the overall effects of the economy (layoffs,
> wage decreases, etc) won't negatively affect the ability of a homeowner
> to continue to pay their mortgage or have the means to refinance
> into a solid fixed rate.
On Jun 19 01:47 PM TB1000 wrote:
> Resetting ARMs shouldn't be much of a problem right now as LIBOR
> has dropped to near historical lows. The problem in 2006/2007 was
> that LIBOR spiked several % points so when the ARMs reset, the payments
> were drastically higher and unaffordable for many.
>
> While immediate interest rate risk is somewhat taken off the table,
> it doesn't mean that the overall effects of the economy (layoffs,
> wage decreases, etc) won't negatively affect the ability of a homeowner
> to continue to pay their mortgage or have the means to refinance
> into a solid fixed rate.
Here are a few quotes for perspective:
"In its annual report on the world's biggest economy, the IMF projected US gross domestic product (GDP) would shrink at an annualized rate of 2.5 percent in 2009 and post modest 0.75 percent growth in 2010." .75 percent is so weak you couldn't find it with a microscope.
"The IMF estimates were less rosy [no kidding] than the latest US official figures. The Federal Reserve on May 20 estimated the economy would contract between 1.3-2.0 percent in 2009, in the worst downturn in decades, and grow at a modest pace between 2.0-3.0 percent in 2010."
However, "[t]he World Bank, which has recently cut its forecast for the global economy to a contraction of 2.9 percent from a
projection for a 1.7 percent decline set in March, released
details on individual economies for the first time on Monday." Those details revised the US downward to a 3% 2009 contraction, and downward to 1.8% growth in 2010.
I try to constrain my opinion and look at evidence. WHATEVER happens with employment and housing, and it doesn't look great in the near-term, I think you can make an excellent case that popluar assumptions are unrealistically positive. By unrealistic I mean "how about the US press undertakes a reality check of 1.5 growth for 2010?" I think they're afraid to do so. FWIW, World Bank has the Euro Zone at a real break-neck .5% positive growth in 2010. Almost statistically insignificant. No job growth--nothing of perceptible gain.
Time after time, decade after decade, governments and markets choose to see only what is convenient, and ignore balanced analysis from multiple sources.
Any bets on the chances the US federal budget will balance in 5 years? How 'bout all that health care savings? No chance, none. And yet they will repeat their rosy assumptions over and over.
Things Are Not Well And The Children In DC Are Still Pretending.