Second Round of Massive Deleveraging About to Hit U.S. Banking System? 17 comments
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Prepare for another round of deleveraging. That’s the message going around Wall Street, just as some banks have paid their TARP funds back early.
In a typically extensive, dry, and informative piece Tuesday, Howe Barnes Hoeffer & Arnett suggested in Barron’s that banks may need to write down bond losses. For its significance, the passage is worth quoting at some length:
Near term, banks’ ability to monetize unrealized gains in their portfolios and thereby convert the gains to regulatory capital has declined sharply; or, from a more functional perspective, harvested gains have been a source of income to partially offset heavy provision expense, which has not yet peaked for the industry.
First-quarter results were supported via sizable bond gains and big gains from mortgage-origination activity. No doubt heavy harvesting occurred during April as treasurers moved to lock in gains for the second quarter, but barring a rally we would look for this source of income and capital augmentation to evaporate in the third quarter.
In other words, the income banks showed and which most of us suspected was fleeting in the first and second quarters of this year, is in fact, just that. Or to put it more bluntly still: most banks’ profits are entirely dependent on risk appetite right now.
At Seeking Alpha, Bill Zielinski asks: “Are The Banks Paying Back TARP Money Too Soon?” That’s a question I pondered here at BNET Finance a week ago when Morgan Stanley (MS), Goldman Sachs (GS), and JP Morgan (JPM) announced they were paying their loans back to the government. Actually, it’s hard to believe more people haven’t been pondering the same point until now.
That’s especially true since even as the early applications for TARP loan repayments were being approved by Treasury, the program’s congressional oversight panel was asking for another round of stress tests.
Zielinski is primarily worried about what he sees as huge pending mortgage writedowns:
The big question is will the banks be able to earn enough to offset the huge amount of future write downs that will be needed on their troubled loans? Earlier this year, Bloomberg reported that the International Monetary Fund (IMF) estimated U.S. banking losses through 2010 at $1.06 trillion. To date, the banking industry has taken write-downs of only half that amount, indicating further write-downs of an additional $500 billion will be necessary.
In addition, delinquency rates on $1 trillion of commercial real estate loans held by banks have been increasing at a higher rate than anticipated. Credit card losses for the banks have also been rapidly mounting from previous estimates.
What is worrying is that a mixture of bond writedowns followed by mortgage writedowns six to twelve months later could easily contribute to a second round of massive deleveraging. In that instance, banks all begin to reduce their loan exposure to one another, and the whole financial situation goes back into near-collapse. The only party liquid enough to save the day again will be the government, which will have to print even more money to do so.
For now, there’s little sign that this process is getting underway yet. But one of the most startling things about deleveraging is how quickly and severely its jaws enclose on the financial system. That’s the reason Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers went from being reasonably-capitalized to insolvent in a number of weeks.
Allowing some banks to repay their TARP funds early looks more and more like a short-term momentum strategy with potentially catastrophic long-term consequences.
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Doesn't any of you see the self-fullfilling scenarios going on here? Oh I forgot, that's what you want!
Deplorable! Just deplorable!
Only time will tell if they are correct or not - if they are wrong they'll be punished financially when they have to cover their shorts.
On Jun 25 06:51 AM apppro wrote:
> When is enough.. enough with you shorts and naysayers!
>
> Doesn't any of you see the self-fullfilling scenarios going on here?
> Oh I forgot, that's what you want!
>
> Deplorable! Just deplorable!
They have about 10T in assets. What is the after expense (but pre credit loss) return on that? Call it 5%. That is $500b a year of cash flow to offset the losses.
I think the banks are looking at $1 trillion of losses. So if this can be stretched out over three years there is a soft landing scenario out there. Push that recognition to two years and it is going to get shaky. Push it to one year and we will be back to having TARP parties.
It is possible that they go to the government well again. Sadly though, the biggest loss is really not the amount of money or cost we will incur in that event, it is that nothing fundamentally has been fixed with our financial system to keep them from repeating the mess that caused what we are in today.
As far as I'm concerned, banks whether they repay TARP or not should not be able to tell the one that has saved their proverbial hide to get lost. The ones they are thumbing their nose at is none other than us.
Today's unemployment numbers verify that the economic down cycle is still in charge. Here in Florida, the state's unemployment fund runs out of money before summer ends. Who's going to pay those UC compensation benefits ??
Good article. A frank discussion of facts is necessary to combat all the "talking heads" and cheerleaders that think they can talk the recession to death. When one looks at all the numbers as a totality - rather than cherry picking a positive tidbit here or there - the risk of another serious meltdown is apparent.
Even in a fairly dire scenario, there is no reason for a run on any of the major banks, just as there wasn't in the Lehmann case. That was a policy failure. See for example Elizabeth Warren's discussion on this matter in the recently aired PBS Frontline documentary, and her interview on the program's website.
During the Day-Cycle (expansion, construction, city-building, positive energy) cheerleading and positive thinking works beautifully; during the Night-Cycle (contraction, de-construction, 'return to nature', negative energy), cheerleading and positive thinking are hollow and meaningless. Negative energy is a disorganizing force. Cheerleading organization during the Night-Cycle is like trying to be disciplined and do your math homework while you are dreaming.
The problems in the economy will not go away just by pretending they are not there. And they will not be 'solved' with rational systems, which work wonderfully during the day -- better to use Chaos Theory during the Night Cycle, when energy changes direction and 'fixing problems' becomes an exercise in attempting to herd cats.
What saves us from the Chaos of the Night-Cycle? Time. Nothing else.
Did you think we were on the golden road to recovery?
The Fed has to cheer lead you fools into putting your money into equities so that the masses hold the lost assets, not the banks.
How else did you think they'd be unwound.
Just keep your head in the sand, you'll be broke soon and no longer posting on message boards. You'll be working OT.
If one accepts the rough estimates of the value of worldwide derivatives prior to the crash along with recent estimates of the value of bad mortgage paper still in the system, one has to conclude that we aren't even halfway unwound. That is not being "bearish", it is a simple read of the data. For example, look at USA default data for residential/commercial loans over the last 3-4 months. Subprime residential defaults are tapering off but still high while Alt-A and prime defaults are starting to rise above historic highs. Commercial defaults are just starting to increase, but everyone (bulls and bears) expects a large wave of commercial defaults later this year. The raw data makes it pretty clear that the next 6-9 months is going to see a commercial default wave potentially on par with the first wave of residential defaults, and a second wave of residential defaults as unemployment and tight credit drive Alt-A and prime loans into the same tank as the sub-prime. Add to the scenario a major readjust of ARMs and the ongoing rise in interest rates due to unprecedented federal borrowing.
With all of that in the hopper, exactly how does the financial sector come out in the black? One doesn't have to borrow trouble in order to be a bit pessimistic. However, you could easily throw in the default of a major state (California), multiple failed Treasury auctions, the loss of jobs/industry due to adopting cap and trade, and/or the emergence of significant inflation sooner rather than later. Hard for me to find much of a silver lining at the moment.
Why is there so little mention of this considerable reduction in monthly ARM rates which produce euphoric results for the effected home owners?
On Jun 25 06:51 AM apppro wrote:
> When is enough.. enough with you shorts and naysayers!
>
> Doesn't any of you see the self-fullfilling scenarios going on here?
> Oh I forgot, that's what you want!
>
> Deplorable! Just deplorable!
The VIX is low, so who knows how long it will take to get another major downward correction.
This was a situation ripe for a snap back, as it finally occured to the market that, with Uncle Sam backing the banks (and others), there was no real solvency risk --even a paper one-- and that meant that the real issue was cash flow analysis. not paper book values.
With the yield curve about as steep as it can get, the banks should be minting money on spreads which more than offsets the real --not paper-- losses on their loans, as long as there is not a huge delta in real losses. Remember, the banks get the spread advanatge on their entire portfolio, while the delta in the deliquency/default rate affects a much smaller percentage of loans.
With the outlook that the Fed will retain low rates for the foreseeable future, lenders will continue to enjoy good lending and internal refinancing conditions, which should buttress their cash flows.
Even so, it remains to be seen if another "run" on paper values can be fomented by the shorts and whether the market can get faked out twice by the same issue.