Has the Housing Market Reached a Bottom? 14 comments
July 01, 2009
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The National Association of Realtors' Housing Affordability Index remained high in May (171.6%) by historical standards (see chart above, data here), but fell by 7.2 percentage points from April's record high of 178.8%, mostly because of the increase in the median home price from $166,000 in April to $172,900 in May.
The 7.2 point May decline was the largest monthly drop in the HAI in four years, providing further evidence that the housing market may have reached a bottom. Watch for the HAI to continue to fall this year, as both home prices and mortgage rates rise and the real estate market continues to recover.
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I believe this stock market is also a great buy. However, the majority of people will wait and miss the cheap prices. Market already up close to 45%. It wont return and wait for the slow people.
I think I need to stop reading your posts, since I have almost memorized your boiler plate by now.
Never mind that I agree with you here.
On Jul 01 10:11 AM Mad Hedge Fund Trader wrote:
> I am getting as tired of hearing about a housing bottom as I am "green
> shoots". Since I have been pelted daily with predictions that residential
> real estate has bottomed for the last 18 months, like hail in a Midwestern
> summer thunderstorm, I feel a public duty to tell you that is just
> not the case. Now that the state and federal moratoriums are off,
> foreclosures are accelerating. There are over a million Option ARM
> and Alt-A loan resets about to hit the fan. Since many owners will
> not see positive equity in their homes in their lifetimes, banks
> are seeing more walk always. The run up in mortgage rates from 4.5%
> to 5.5% has yet to hit the market. Some 18 million homeowners divert
> 50% of their incomes to pay for housing, double the 25% that is considered
> healthy, and many of them are losing jobs. While the volume of units
> sold has rebounded, the action is dominated by speculators, flippers,
> and bottom feeders bidding for properties at 10-40 cents on the dollar,
> not exactly a sign of health. Call me when Ozzie & Harriet Nelson
> come back to the market. I listen to industry insiders call the bottom
> of the Japanese real estate market for 15 years, until they finally
> died, and the market is still a fraction of its 1990 high. I thing
> we are closer to the bottom than the top in terms of price, but closer
> to the top than the bottom in terms of time. You can take that to
> the bank.
I'm kind of curious- if Flint succeeds with their plans to raze 40% of homes in the city, what prices will those be transferred at and how will that affect the average home price- and when will that happen? It would be interesting to see an index of home prices with current abandoned properties (no one living in them with no near term prospects for occupancy) valued at true NPV, which could be less than zero for all we know...
A major reason for the high level of affordability is the absense of buyers. How many millions out of the 12,000,000 ro 16,000,000 would be prospective house buyers if they had normal work and income levels? Are there at least as many in a fetal position (financially speaking) because of uncertainty about continued employment?
If I add these numbers up and assume that 5-10% of that 25 - 35 million would be prospective home buyers in normal times, there is an absence of buying pressure for between 1 and 3.5 million units. These are missing from the house buying market compared to what would be the case in a normal economy. If these potential buyers returned to the housing market, inventories would return to levels seen in healthy housing markets.
Affordability is meaningless as long as there is a shortage of buyers.
There is a viscious cycle here that must be broken.
1. Employment can not improve until the economy is in recovery. 2. The economy can not have a significant recovery until the financial system returns to more normal operation.
3. The financial system can not stabilize until the housing market stabilizes and default risks decline.
4. The housing market can not stabilize until more normal buyer demand returns.
5. Buyer demand can not return until employment declines stop and unemployment starts to go down.
6. Return to 1.
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First, you said the housing problems were contained in only four states:
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Case-Shiller would strongly disagree with that assessment.
Then you exclude 5 to try and show foreclosures are decreasing:
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Then you called a bottom in the housing market in 2008:
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Then you said that affordability was higher than ever (duh, prices crashed), and you went on about this FOR MONTHS:
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And yet you're still looking for a bottom?
Then you equate increasing sales in some of the worst markets to 'recovery' without understanding that many of the existing home sales are being 'short-sold' (REO) by banks to get them off the books.
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And you don't seem to understand that much of the mortgage activity increase has been in refi's:
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And lets not forget that you also believed that job layoff's peaked in January:
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You are taking a sub-50 reading of ISM as "positive":
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And finally, my favorites, you said there was no recession, and no credit crunch.
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I don't know what makes you qualified to call a bottom in housing, let alone anything else. You've been nothing but a relentless bull on virtually everything.
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Prices are declining, foreclosures are rising, interest rates are edging up, underwriting standards are increasing, appraisals are less friendly, housing initiatives are failing, unemployment is increasing, a large number of resets are right around the corner, first time home buyer tax credits will expire at the end of the year, banks are keeping back 600,000 or some homes from foreclosure and buyers see "deflation" in housing and are deferring decisions to purchase. Plus, as John notes, there are a multitude of adverse feedback loops that perpeuate instability.
There approximately 50 million homes with mortgages and Gary Schilling expects that before this cycle is completed 50% to 60% of these homes will be underwater.
There is no point in even having a housing discussion until that happens. The affordability index is irrelevant.