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The latest report from the Census Department reinforces my judgment that the housing market has bottomed and will be a significant contributor to economic growth over the next few years, beginning in the third quarter of 2009.

From a low of 329,000 new homes sales at an annual rate in January, sales have increased to 384,000 in June. That 's a rise of 16.7% in less than half a year, a sizeable rebound.

Even more striking is the behavior of housing inventories, which are often misread by observors. June was the 28th consecutive month in which new home inventories declined. Unsold new home inventories peaked at almost 600,000 units. Now, they are just 281,000 units, which is about as low as they have been in the last 40 years. Since the U.S. population has grown by about 50% over that period, the level of unsold inventories is now very low relative to the size of the population. Much is made over the stubbornly high level of inventories as measured by the month's supply. Sales were falling during much of the last two years, so the month's supply, which is inventories divided by the selling rate, remained quite elevated. But it only takes a small rise in sales at a time inventories are falling to make a huge impact in the month's supply. That occurred very visibly this month. With sales higher and inventory down, the month's supply fell from 10.2 to 8.8 in a single month! That's a major reduction in the gap towards the 6 month level that is considered normal.

Keep in mind that the unsold inventory is not evenly distributed across the United States. We know that there are significant unsold supplies of housing in four areas: the Inland Empire region of California, southern Florida, Las Vegas and Phoenix. With overall inventories now so low, it is a safe bet that inventories are very lean in much of the rest of the country. So, expect prices to rebound in much of the country in the coming months. And population growth will continue to absorb what supplies of housing remain in the market. Therefore, new home construction should continue to rise and even accelerate once growth resumes in the coming months.

Disclosures: We own various housing and building oriented equities in client portfolios and our personal accounts, including HD, LOW, USG, MLI, and NVR.

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    Thanks for the information and the analysis. However, IMHO, new housing supply and demand are the last thing that we should be using to try to make a bottom call in the general housing market. It is good news that new houses are selling, but the rate of decrease in prices is concerning. Increased volume at constant prices would be a better data point for a bottom argument.

    There is a secondary consequence that will not work in our favor: if we get great volumes at low prices, we hurt the asset quality of the existing homeowner's and lenders not involved in the new sales. At some point, we will hurt consumption further through a destruction of perceived equity.
    Jul 27 12:51 PM | Link | Reply
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    This recurring "Housing Has Bottomed" refrain is debunked by the fact that A. The new housing sales data indicates further price declines; B. It's seasonal; C. There is a huge unsold overall inventory, including existing homes; D. We are about to enter a period of resets of Alt-A and Prime mortgages, in fact this has already begun and the defaults are soaring.

    This miniscule reduction in inventory of new houses is hardly an indication of any bottom in the market if all relevant market data is taken into account.
    Jul 27 01:04 PM | Link | Reply
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    When including a term such as "bottom" in the article title, it is helpful to define the term. How do you define it? By median existing home price? This stays on a declining trend. By unsold inventory? Not at 6 months yet. If you post an article to coincide with another housing data release, you may benefit from asking and answering these questions therein.

    The bottom will be when inventory reaches 6 months and an equilibrium price is found at that level. We will see then how far prices have fallen. We will also see how much inventory is added at that equilibrium price and if inventory constraints and demand bid the price toward a rising trend (in real dollars). Nobody knows at what value the median will become stable or how fast or how far it may rise off the bottom. We may know that by Q2 of 2010. We may revisit the bottom concept in Q1 2010 when and if inventory hits 6 months.

    Based upon your long positions (?) in housing, when a balanced analysis--one which explores arguments for and against bottoming--is absent from article, it degrades the article's value. Clearly you have advanced knowledge of housing, but restating content available in Reuters or AP is not entirely beneficial. Are banks manipulating inventory? I'd like to know. How do the price declines impact those not wanting to sell: those who see their value plunge ever downward?
    Jul 27 01:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    Nice wishful-thinking piece. I am sure with your book you HOPE housing has bottomed. Even if it has bottomed, that is quite different from a rebound. The decline in house values has of course seriously impacted the wealth of many people. My layman's guess is, people are going to rely on home values as ATMs much anymore. Consumers have changed, CHANGED, not just adjusted until they can go back to easy credit and big spending. Easy credit--have you noticed we don't have easy credit? That isn't likely to change soon, AND I don't think consumers will run to embrace easy credit for quite a while, even if available. There is a lot more to consider than just whether or not housing has bottomed.
    Jul 27 01:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks for your position. Increasing sales albeit at lower prices is potentially encouraging as a sign of slowing decline rates. IMO the other commentators have made some valuable points particularly since new housing stats should not be looked at in isolation.

    A worry is the significant decline in New House prices though. To the extent these indicate declining values in same house sales one would think they point to dangers in equity values for more households and, combined with increasing unemployment, a potentially increasing foreclosure rate - indicating a likelyhood of the downward spiral continuing.
    Jul 27 02:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    Well if you are defining a recovery as housing prices returning to the level they were during the worst housing bubble in 50+ years, then you may have to wait a long while indeed for a recovery.

    The housing industry is a major driver of the economy, and the type of "recovery" that is required to start economic activity is a clearing of the housing inventory overhang and an increase in the number of transactions. These will allow lenders to lend, builders to build, etc. It isn't important that we see beachfront condos selling for $1M+ before we have an economic recovery.

    Higher housing prices are probably in the cards over the mid term anyway due to inflation.
    Jul 27 02:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    With respect, I think we’ll look back at this article within the next six months and be floored about how wrong some really smart people could get this. First of all, have all our unprecedented problems been magically addressed by changing mark to market practices and temporarily banning foreclosures? …even while 25% of all US mortgage holders are upside down and foreclosures are increasing at record levels?

    Second, the "housing market" right now is not a market at all. A market implies a free exchange where supply equals demand. Today, the “market” is a place where misinformed people confuse shelter with investment, and the government and banks (same thing these days) artificially limit supply on the low end… and then take the resulting statistical phenomena out of context by applying it to the whole universe of data… while ignoring the tsunami of even greater problems that have not yet started.

    And as a friendly reminder… there is also effectively no market for high-end real estate mortgages… which means the high-end real estate market has effectively been reduced to an all cash economic exchange.

    The problems we have collectively (mis)labeled as “subprime” are not even close to being contained. There are hundreds of thousands of homes that should be on the market that are not due to moratoriums, bank agendas, negative equity, etc. The problem people will start to (mis)label as the “prime” problem… will make the “subprime” problem pale in comparison.

    Claiming a housing bottom at this point is optimistic at best, irresponsible at worst.
    Jul 27 02:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    All real estate is local. Housing inventories are not fungible. It does not matter to a buyer in Bloomington, IL what the market looks like in southern California. Huge swaths of middle America escaped the worst excesses of the housing bubble and are poised to lead the way back. Look for the Midwest to continue to lead the pack. Within our smaller metros we predominately have very conservative local and regional banks that did not offer exotic loans for grossly overpriced houses. Inventory levels in the smaller Midwestern metros are dropping rapidly and there is virtually no shadow inventory.
    Jul 27 02:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    I agree with @concrete guy: real estate is local. The question is, have prices corrected back to 1995 levels? Three answers:

    1. In some local markets they never went up much from there, so there's not much correcting to do.

    2. In some markets foreclosures have driven the necessary liquidity to correct the market, so these markets may be near "bottom" in the sense that they only have a little more bleeding to do, which will happen slowly over a number of years.

    3. Some markets still have a DEADLY combination: a huge run-up combined with only slightly dropped prices.

    The midwest is often an example of #1.

    Places like (low-end) Florida and the Inland Empire are an example of #2.

    Places like the Bay Area (high-end), Manhattan, and other higher-end markets are an example of #3.

    The high-end in general is set for a huge crash. Just like the Bubble allowed you-want-fries-with-that incomes to get into doctor/lawyer homes, doctors and lawyers leveraged themselves into multi-millionaire homes. As has been documented here and many other places, the wave of foreclosures for THIS part of the market is coming soon. When it does finally correct there will be no buyers: FLIPPING was the primary way buyers afforded the high-end, and all of those buyers are deep under water and have no down payment.

    When it somehow does move watch for the MEDIUM selling prices to skyrocket. The mansions will be selling for 50-60% below peak, which may finally move them, but it will make the market LOOK much better since the only houses getting any traction will be the high-end.

    Yet another reason to not bet your life savings on a few soundbites.


    OP
    Jul 27 04:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm in agreement with those that view real estate should be measured locally. There are some markets that have bottomed, at least for now. Some markets where I am have actually gone up over the past year. We are talking about individual neighborhoods though within a city. I would think that the overall housing market will not have a bottom or real recovery until the job market does the same. Jobs, then housing is how it will happen.
    Jul 27 04:38 PM | Link | Reply
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    This is fantastic news about new home sales sure. Its better than it is worse. However, the one thing to keep in mind is that home prices are absolutely plummeting. What does this mean for developers? They aren't making money really. While its great and it shows a bottoming, housing developers are going to continue to have disappointing earnings because their profit margins are getting smaller. This is the first step in the right direction, but we have to keep in mind that the housing industry is really not that well off still. Further, this jump in home sales could signal that home buyers are buying now fearing inflation and a jump in interest rates. I think there is a lot of things to take away from this that are less bullish and slightly contrarian.

    David Ristau
    President, The Oxen Group
    theoxengroup.com
    Jul 27 04:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm surprised that only one comment has mentioned the seasonality. Okay, home sales are up from January, hurrah. But home sales ALWAYS peak in summer and dip in winter, so that indicates nothing. And inventory is still waiting for the other foreclosure-shoe to drop. I hope you haven't uncorked the champagne already.
    Jul 27 05:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    For a few months all you chicken littles have decried the end is nigh and the barbarians are still closing towards the gates...the alt-a's, the shadow foreclosures...yet the news keeps improving. Maybe because
    overall confidence amongst the many with jobs and money (that no one here wants to acknowledge) and low prices have provided a bottom that could not be quantified or predicted...just like nothing else about this has been quantified or predicted.(except by Schiller)

    It's like a cold front impacting a warm front early in the seasonal change, there are a lot of storms but there are many things offset...so often it's not so bad.

    The economy is coming back. The impact of the Alt-a's and shadow inventory will bleed into it and have an affect but not the catastrophic one it would have had when it added burden to an un propped economy.

    If you're in Phoenix and you bought at the top of the market mand are paying your mtg, you're effed for a good while. If you're in Dallas, not so bad.

    During the 80's oil bust I bought a condo that bottomed at less than one third of it's value. I rented, held and took a loss on it for 20 years until I could sell it for 2/3 of what I bought it for which was breakeven on the mtg at that point.

    Cal values will come back faster but it's gonna be a while. But overall the sun is beginning to shine.

    Don't tinkle on everybody's tennis shoes.
    Jul 27 05:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    Yes!!!! 3 more calls for a bottom today and that makes 11.

    Don't forget 11 is a lucky number which could fortell a true bottom.

    I am closing my eyes and clicking my heels and implore you all to join me.............
    "Just three more bottom calls, just three more bottom calls."


    Just imagine if you will, fellow SAers, when the guy who's called the bottom 19 times actually gets it right.
    All his/her subsequent articles would routinely begin, "Since I correctly predicted the floor in housing back in early 2011, real GDP......................
    Jul 27 05:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    All real estate may be local… but unemployment, illiquidity, deflation/inflation, debt, taxation, and the question of whether the stock market is dislocated from reality sure seem to have a world-wide impact.

    The foreclosure problem has not been addressed. Rather it is gaining momentum. And it is about to increase at an even faster rate as the neg-am, alt-A, and “prime” 5yr ARM’s begin to re-set.

    The idea of the Midwest leading the pack is nice, but these conservative values didn’t buoy us during the liquidity crunch, etc, and it is not going to stem the tide of the pressures that are mounting now.

    Midwestern values may well serve as an exemplary place for us to return. But I’m afraid we have a lot more falling down before we can pick ourselves up, brush ourselves off, and get back on the road that will take us there.

    Jul 27 05:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    Mr. Lieberman refers to sales of only new homes, and this indicator is, in fact, seasonally adjusted.


    On Jul 27 05:00 PM Alan Young wrote:

    > I'm surprised that only one comment has mentioned the seasonality. Okay, home sales are up from January, hurrah. But home sales ALWAYS peak in summer and dip in winter, so that indicates nothing..
    Jul 27 05:33 PM | Link | Reply
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    "Just imagine if you will, fellow SAers, when the guy who's called the bottom 19 times actually gets it right."
    ++++++++++++++++++++++...
    For my money, that would define all economists.

    If some of yall want it to be so bad, please don't move to Texas.
    Jul 27 06:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    Does anybody truly appreciate how manipulated the daily markets are? Whether its the 3:45:01 pm spike closes (up or down depending on which way the wind is supposed to blow) or the sudden arrival of green shoots or brown shoots (again depending on which way the wind is supposed to blow), as David Fry likes to call 'em, "Da Boyz" are running things. Again, whether its mickey mouse seasonally adjusted housing data (I mean, of course June is better than January) or the latest trot-out (didn't you just love the Great Sage telling us very conveniently Friday am just ahead of the weekend where the Journals and Barons slept quietly) figurehead to mouth the appropriate be-calm, be-quiet mush to keep the masses in line.
    Yes, housing is VERY local and yes, the bid-up process popularized following the ruling elite's reduction of interest rates to absurd levels in 2003-4 has and will prompt a relative tidal wave of disasters among the 600k-1.2mm house price crowd who don't have the cash to cover their situations and by virtue of economic requirements must change. My final rant is that I used to believe and use fundamentals to determine values. Now, I just watch the ruling elite.
    Jul 27 06:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    "U.S. Housing Has Bottomed"

    Or hit a ledge.
    Jul 27 06:28 PM | Link | Reply
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    I agree with Houston. I'm tired of the perpetual string of perma-bears that post comments on Seeking Alpha. Without a doubt, there is some "thaw" in housing and while the recovery will not be quick or consistently spread everywhere there are definite signs of recovery.


    On Jul 27 05:10 PM Houston wrote:

    > For a few months all you chicken littles have decried the end is
    > nigh and the barbarians are still closing towards the gates...the
    > alt-a's, the shadow foreclosures...yet the news keeps improving.
    > Maybe because
    > overall confidence amongst the many with jobs and money (that no
    > one here wants to acknowledge) and low prices have provided a bottom
    > that could not be quantified or predicted...just like nothing else
    > about this has been quantified or predicted.(except by Schiller)
    >
    >
    > It's like a cold front impacting a warm front early in the seasonal
    > change, there are a lot of storms but there are many things offset...so
    > often it's not so bad.
    >
    > The economy is coming back. The impact of the Alt-a's and shadow
    > inventory will bleed into it and have an affect but not the catastrophic
    > one it would have had when it added burden to an un propped economy.
    >
    >
    > If you're in Phoenix and you bought at the top of the market mand
    > are paying your mtg, you're effed for a good while. If you're in
    > Dallas, not so bad.
    >
    > During the 80's oil bust I bought a condo that bottomed at less than
    > one third of it's value. I rented, held and took a loss on it for
    > 20 years until I could sell it for 2/3 of what I bought it for which
    > was breakeven on the mtg at that point.
    >
    > Cal values will come back faster but it's gonna be a while. But overall
    > the sun is beginning to shine.
    >
    > Don't tinkle on everybody's tennis shoes.
    Jul 27 07:08 PM | Link | Reply
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    One thing I want to clear up - the misconception of Arm resets - there are generally 3 types of mtg resets that matter - Sub-prime (2/28s), Pay Option Arm recasts and Hybrid 3/1s, 5/1s etc. The Sub-primes are pretty much done - these are nasty resets - from a low fixed rate for 2 years to a high margin adjustable rate loan - generally with the hopes that the loan will be refi'd. Pay-options are also nasty in that the loan is likely neg-am meaing balance is increasing in early years, although these have stopped neg-aming due to low Libor rates (MTA) - these at recast become amortizing loans over shorter lifes 20-25 years rather than 30 - generaly big payment pop. But everyone keeps misconstruing the Alt-A and Hybrid resets - these are not a problem now as Libor is so low - my brothers mtg just reset to 3.50% for the next year - these are not a problem for at least 2-3 more years before short rates are above 3-4%.
    Jul 27 08:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    There are not many good signs in housing - the only one I can see is that inventory levels are shrinking - but there are many arguments against that one. Based on Shiller data going back to LA in the 90's - that is the most comparable period - high run up in prices the 3-4 years leading to economic decline - mass job losses due to aerospace industry tanking - prices fell for about 3-3.5 years then stabilized bouncing at bottom for another 3-4 years before starting to trend up again - NOBODY should be concerned with PRICES running away from them on the high side over the next 2-3 years at minimum.
    Jul 27 08:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    On Jul 27 04:38 PM JPDX wrote:

    > I'm in agreement with those that view real estate should be measured locally. There are some markets that have bottomed, at least for now. Some markets where I am have actually gone up over the past year.

    You're dead on with that one JPD. Real estate has to be measured not just locally, but also by price category. In the sub $150K range home prices have stabilized, but there are still substantial inventories of unsold homes in the $400K+ range. Also specific types of real estate are proving more popular with an aging empty-nester population: specifically very small homes that are laid out on a single floor and with very reasonable monthly utility costs. I've even heard some speculate that one of the hot areas in real estate over the course of the next 10 to 15 years will be in selective gentrification of inner-suburban Post-WWII neighborhoods: those are areas that tend to be just outside of city centers with street after street of 800sf to 1000sf single story homes which were built between 1945 and 1950. (I add the term "selective" because one has to be very knowledgeable of the geographical area they are investing in with this type of real estate deal. You can't buy a house because it's a certain type of house without knowing the neighborhood it's in.)
    Jul 27 09:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    How dare you publish a positive article. Don't you know that we must revert to 1965 prices and we're only a fraction of the way there???

    The comments section clearly identifies the majority of people will not hear anything remotely positive. Luckily their sentiment is a lagging indicator only.
    Jul 27 11:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    your articles never let me down, they always put a smile on my face...

    www.ritholtz.com/blog/.../
    Jul 28 07:48 AM | Link | Reply
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    The view from ground zero: Realtors in Phoenix tell me they are down to a 3 month supply, with house selling for an average 10% over list. High volume, bidding wars, prices moving up. Only concern is there is still a lot of housing in the foreclosure pipeline.

    IN Ft. Worth, prices moving up. An open house at a $300k plus house was swamped with interested buyers. Problems with appraisals, getting loans, but the demand is there.
    Jul 28 12:29 PM | Link | Reply
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    For a guy your age your memory isn't very good. Look back to early 90's..foreclosures were still around in 1996/1997 and I think its safe to say I will still be selling them ion 3 years at least. You had low interest rates, peak season buying, and an 8k credit to first time buyers...add that cash investors buying up all the garbage properties and you have a blip on the radar ....nothing sustainable with al lthe job losses and Americans pinching pennies... sorry, we may become a bit more stable but prices have not bottomed yet. A whole new wave of foreclosures ready to hit the market and im afraid the buyer pool is thinning and that is not good for my business...but I am a realist. That being said I would not be afraid to buy as prices wont go down much more, But they are not going up for quite some time.
    Jul 28 12:53 PM | Link | Reply
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    I think it is too optimistic to say to build houses now because the uptick you have seen in May is because of the fact that Americans buy houses mostly in Summer. So, America has always seen uptick in these months. I would say that we should wait and watch after 2-3 months.

    There are four items in place that are tricking people into calling a bottom, when in fact three of these items are temporary. The result is an artificial restriction of supply and artificial pumping of demand.
    1) It’s the seasonally strongest buying season
    2) There’s a foreclosure moratorium about to end
    3) Federal tax credits offered for 1st time homebuyers
    4) Historically low mortgage rates (this may or may not change soon)

    Check out : www.housingnewslive.co...
    Jul 28 01:51 PM | Link | Reply
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    What difference does it make if Phoenix has a 3 month supply? It is completely irrelevant when you have 50,000 finished lots waiting for builders to mysteriously appear and build on. When you have no barriers to entry and a huge back log of stagnant lots, home prices will stay flat for long term. That may explain why builders are not lining up to start homes (and thus the 3 month supply).
    Jul 28 02:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    This comment is a follow up to the comment posted by bondtrdr, because it really lies at the crux of our debate.

    As a real estate broker whose income is derived in direct proportion to a recovery, I would be extremely happy if I thought these bottom calls amounted to anything more than wishful thinking and distorted statistics.

    I agree there is a misconception about Arm resets, and that some of what Bondtrdr says about resets is true. And I will go out on a limb and assume that instead of saying “Alt-A and Hybrid” Bondtrdr meant to say Alt-A and Prime (because Hybrid = Option Arms… and by definition these are a serious problem for anyone other than sophisticated investors)… so we’ll just go with the implied intent rather than dissect the semantics.

    Now, yes, with the 6 mo libor at 1%, its true monthly payments will stay low, but even at 3.5% the loans that re-set to 25yr amortized principal and interest (roughly half of all re-sets), actually increase in monthly payment. Bondtrdr’s bro is stoked because he apparently falls into the category of folks who get the 5 extra year reprieve.

    But how long can Libor be expected to stay this low? It would be a mistake to view these short term low rate as a foundation for stability.

    Even when the Libor gets to 3%... still very low by historic context… the fully indexed rate that folks like Bondtr’s brother will pay on their mortgage will be around 5.5%. This is pretty equivalent to what they had as a teaser.

    But here’s the thing… there are two types of 5yr Arm loans:

    -Loans that adjust to variable rate after 5yrs, and extend the interest-only period out another 5yrs (and then switch to principal and interest over a 20yr amortization).

    -Loans that adjust to variable rate after 5yrs, and immediately switch to principal and interest over a 25yr amortization.

    This is where the misconception comes in… there is an idea that folks in the higher pricing tiers can afford the P&I payment. It does not matter than some, or many, or even most folks can afford the resulting payment shock. What matters is that some folks (many) are making less money than they were 5 years ago, and when their $800k loan at 5.5% switches to P&I… at 5.5%... their payment increases by $1,247 per month.

    Even at 3.5% their payment actually increases by $340 per month.

    We have the blueprint of how this rolls out from here. If at first you can’t afford, try to refi. If the refi guy says no dice, try to short sale. If only 15% of short sales close, then walk away.

    Also, if people are currently walking away from homes they CAN afford because they’re upside down by $100k… is it unrealistic to expect folks to walk away when they’re upside down by $200k? If not, then how about $300k?

    There is a further misconception that the lower priced tiers were all made up of subprime borrowers. Many of these buyers had great fico’s and bought with 5yr Arm’s. In fact, there were many more 5yr arms executed than there were 2yr arms. Where does the stability of this market segment go when they experience this kind of pressure?

    There is a further misconception that the subprime problems are behind us. Not true. What is behind us is the rate resets. But the fall out is not behind us. We have had to lower rates to unprecedented levels and we are absolutely stuck here. There are pressures mounting to raise rates, but doing so would be catastrophic.

    We have dealt with the problem thus far by changing mark to market guidelines and imposing foreclosure moratoriums. To say this problem has been contained is not accurate. I think I was reading Peter Schiff the other day, who made a more accurate assessment… referring to these actions as more of a quarantine than a containment.

    From an intrinsic value standpoint and an affordability perspective, the bottom has been in for sometime in the 300k pricing tier… but who cares if the people who want to sell cannot sell and the people who want to buy cannot buy? The low end segment is completely out of whack because there is nothing free about the market. The high end market is extremely overbought and will take a huge correction to set things straight.

    But to say the “real estate market” has bottomed at this point, with all these problems under the run, and yet to come, is just not accurate by any true standard.
    Jul 28 06:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    The barrier is the resales selling for 50% of replacement COST. Not to mention the wake up call that has made many realize how overrated the suburban mcmansion really truly is.

    Inner city locations are preferred but regardless it's a good thing builders remain on the sidelines. Stagnant lots are only helping fuel the demand.

    On Jul 28 02:25 PM Bigman16 wrote:

    > What difference does it make if Phoenix has a 3 month supply? It
    > is completely irrelevant when you have 50,000 finished lots waiting
    > for builders to mysteriously appear and build on. When you have no
    > barriers to entry and a huge back log of stagnant lots, home prices
    > will stay flat for long term. That may explain why builders are not
    > lining up to start homes (and thus the 3 month supply).
    Jul 28 11:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    Talk about toxic mortgages first, then whether housing has bottomed or not. "All of this debt is like a chain around my neck." someone once said. Then he hung himself. Must've been during that "other" depression.
    Aug 18 02:49 PM | Link | Reply