The Simple Math of 'Staggering' Chinese Growth 14 comments
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Chinese non-export economy grew 23% in June! Before you start googling for that number, let me warn you. You won’t find it. I’ve computed it using fifth grade math.
Here is what we know: exports constitute about 35% of the Chinese economy and they dropped over 20% in June, while the Chinese economy (GDP) grew 8%. So the “X” is the growth rate of 65% of Chinese non-export economy.
0.35 x (-20%) + 0.65 x (X%) = 8%. If you were to solve for X you get 23%.
Enough with math, let me put this number in perspective. Chinese non-export economy grew at 3 times the rate of their GDP. I only have two, very contradictory, explanations for this:
1) The Chinese government is lying through its teeth about its economic miracle growth. It has the incentives to interrogate economic data until it confesses to the party line numbers. This is very plausible, as for months, the Chinese government was showing positive GDP growth while its consumption of electricity was declining. Obviously this doesn’t make much sense. China is not famous for production of intellectual type goods (i.e. software, creation of toxic financial products – that is our specialty) which scale a lot better and don’t require proportional electricity consumption to grow GDP. China makes stuff and to make stuff you need a lot of electricity. Also, even if the growth is completely driven by building high story buildings (even if they collapse), highways, schools - these activities still require a lot of electricity.
2) The numbers are real, the monetary base was up 28.5% in June (again if you can trust that number) and thus the quality of growth is horrible. I’ve discussed this scenario in great detail.
I hate to leave on open-ended note, but only time will tell what is actually going on in China.
P.S. I was not surprised to learn that Jeremy Grantham of GMO – a value investor for whom I have a tremendous respect is concerned about the future of Chinese economy as well.
Authors Note: I made a mistake with some of my assumptions in this article, I've corrected it here.
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As in the “value added” argument by toadhall2, this value-added most likely occurs outside the mainland China, such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, New York and etc. GDP will record $10 produced for export section (a meek $2-5 profit for the assembly factory) as well as additional $5-10 service fees for the middleman inside the mainland China. You just don't count in the final sale price towards Chinese GDP, in this case the full $100.
The NET export contribute to the GDP, essentially the trade surplus, not gross GDP.
The trade surplus decreased a little over 2% over H1 2009 (I don't have the number to break down by Q or month). Export down 20%, but import down about 25%.
Sadly, Mr. Katsenelson seems to be in a position to continue to influence such poor intellectual rigor; >> Vitaliy N. Katsenelson is ... an author of Active Value Investing: Making Money in Range-Bound Markets ... an adjunct faculty member at the University of Colorado at Denver, Graduate School of Business where he teaches Practical Equity Analysis and Portfolio Management class ... a regular contributor to the Financial Times and Forbes; wrote articles for Barron's, BusinessWeek, The Rocky Mountain News, Financial Planning Magazine and many other financial publications (TheStreet.com, The Motley Fool, Minyanville.com, MarketWatch. ....
But hey, a guys got to make a buck right?....
HCSKnight
What is true in China? Business is a magic show: three sets of books for every company, one for the tax man (showing low profits), one for the bank (showing steady profits), and one for management (showing wonderful profits)...which makes it a bit hard to really know what is true.
The Chinese economy: a lot of smoke and mirrors and bad products. Buildings that collapse; food with poison embedded to make it prettier and last longer; viagra stuffed with dry-wall. Western CAPITALISTS...
On Jul 29 02:03 PM HCSKnight wrote:
> Sorry, guys it's not bad math.... it's pure and simple bad thinking.
> Mr. Katsenelson's failures are simply an all too common reflection
> of the failure of the US educational system. No definition of terms,
> and or improper definition of terms. Without this all else which
> follows is mere rumination.
>
> Sadly, Mr. Katsenelson seems to be in a position to continue to influence
> such poor intellectual rigor; >> Vitaliy N. Katsenelson is ... an
> author of Active Value Investing: Making Money in Range-Bound Markets
> ... an adjunct faculty member at the University of Colorado at Denver,
> Graduate School of Business where he teaches Practical Equity Analysis
> and Portfolio Management class ... a regular contributor to the Financial
> Times and Forbes; wrote articles for Barron's, BusinessWeek, The
> Rocky Mountain News, Financial Planning Magazine and many other financial
> publications (TheStreet.com, The Motley Fool, Minyanville.com, MarketWatch.
> ....
>
> But hey, a guys got to make a buck right?....
>
> HCSKnight
On Jul 30 09:09 AM coreopsis wrote:
> In total agreement. Once you get away from the elite universities
> in the States, it's a frightening morass of illogic and misinformation.
> As for the business press, nothing exemplifies the 'leverage' that
> the US financial system holds over the 'minds' [sic] of Americans.
> The business press is 95% blather, supported by an advertising base
> of banks, investment companies and their lackeys (seekingalpha.com/symbol/v).
> Truly, these leeches have drawn a veil over the corruption that is
> at the heart of US capitalism. The US...where all the investment
> funds have returns 'above average',
On Jul 29 02:03 PM HCSKnight wrote:
> Sorry, guys it's not bad math.... it's pure and simple bad thinking.
> Mr. Katsenelson's failures are simply an all too common reflection
> of the failure of the US educational system. No definition of terms,
> and or improper definition of terms. Without this all else which
> follows is mere rumination.
>
> Sadly, Mr. Katsenelson seems to be in a position to continue to influence
> such poor intellectual rigor; >> Vitaliy N. Katsenelson is ... an
> author of Active Value Investing: Making Money in Range-Bound Markets
> ... an adjunct faculty member at the University of Colorado at Denver,
> Graduate School of Business where he teaches Practical Equity Analysis
> and Portfolio Management class ... a regular contributor to the Financial
> Times and Forbes; wrote articles for Barron's, BusinessWeek, The
> Rocky Mountain News, Financial Planning Magazine and many other financial
> publications (TheStreet.com, The Motley Fool, Minyanville.com, MarketWatch.
> ....
>
> But hey, a guys got to make a buck right?....
>
> HCSKnight