Seeking Alpha
About this author:
Submit
an article to

The latest Newsweek cover says it all:


Rosie turns grudgingly bullish?
In addition, perennial economic bear David Rosenberg allowed in his latest missive that the economy might be turning around [emphasis mine]:

[T]here is no doubt that after the sharpest downturn in housing, production and employment since the 1930s, that the laws of gravity themselves prevent the economy from any further deterioration. Nothing is going to zero, and there is always the chance that housing sales edge back up towards their demographic levels, auto sales recover to their replacement demand levels (plus GM getting back into the leasing game), and inventories get rebuilt in line with spending levels. The government has its hands in 40% of the economy and when public sector officials can influence how banks can value their assets, how mortgage servicers should be doing their business, who shall fail in the financial industry and who shall not; and when we have a central bank that is not just the lender but the market of last resort, even for RVs, and a government willing to run up its deficit to levels that would have made FDR blush, then perhaps we can end up seeing a recovery occur sooner than we had thought.

You can almost hear the agony in his voice as he penned those last few words.

On top of that, Mark Hulbert reported about a week ago that newsletter market timers were getting too bullish.

As the S&P 500 rally tests the magic 1,000 level, it’s worthwhile to think about these sentiment data points.

Print this article with comments
Comments
19
Comments 1 - 19 out of 19
You are viewing the latest 20 comments
  •  
    as if it takes genius to be bull in here (not that it hurts as Bill Gates proved, though!). there's blowback from the blowout coming. obviously the bulls were SURPRISED by last fall.
    Jul 30 01:54 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Usel, we have worm signs the likes of which even GOD has never seen! No wait, that was Dune.--- Never mind. :-) I think the speed of the stock market recovery will be shocking to all the bears. Chas
    Jul 30 02:07 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Bull Market? Seriously?
    The tide is still going out on this depression. Give it a couple more months until businesses and individuals have exhausted their emergency funds, credit lines, and sold all their junk. About the time the longest of the unemployed use up their welfare and emergency welfare, the Option ARM, Alt As, and CMBSs begin to devestate the banks further, and interest rates on Treasury Auctions jump. There will be no where to hide for the bulls. The only thing testing the Bears right now is how long the market can stay irrational. I give it 2-3 months to severely decline, which I have high hopes for. The longer this 'rally' lasts, the more damage the government will do long term with it's plan that amounts to spending even more and pushing us further into debt. Unbelievable really.........
    Jul 30 02:22 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    "peace, peace, when there is no peace."

    There is a Proverb that says "only a fool decides before he has heard all the evidence." I think I'll just keep an open mind about the investing climate right now. All this BS--I mean bullishness does not help one make good decisions.
    Jul 30 02:29 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    THIS bear has Not capitulated.
    Jul 30 02:39 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Consensus is almost always a sign that things will change soon.
    Jul 30 02:42 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    cetin, please don't drag God into this mess. God has more sense (you dig?) than dealing with fools.
    Jul 30 02:47 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Can both sides be right? The economy gets worse, and, the stock market goes up? After all, all the funny money has to go somewhere.
    Jul 30 03:33 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Bears are simply hibernating - letting the bulls run amuck. Hey the reality ultimately sinks in and it will. The real economy despite injection of Trillions is still shrinking - and we are 2 years into this money easing phase - since August '07.

    Unemployment and housing continue to deteriorate - as long as that vicious cycle is not over - the downturn will not get over. 'Technically' the recession will get over soon probably by end of year - that is too much of a debate. But the issue is what will the recovery look like- all forecasts are for an anemic jobless recovery - that is never good for the stock market.
    Jul 30 04:05 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    I am afraid there is nothing bullish about the late-day slide into the closing bell. It is much more of a topping action. The roller coaster may have reached the zenith and is about to start its return to earth. Honestly, I hate the labels bears and bulls. I have long positions, and obviously I want them to go up. I don't WANT the market to decline. I just think blind bullishness is not supported by the fundamentals, and it can be dangerous to your wealth. Caution is called for. Bulls were in denial all the way down; any one bearish now can hardly be faulted.
    Jul 30 04:13 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    When you start seeing posts like this, it's almost always time to re-think your position...kind of like when Time said "Stocks are Dead" in 1981.
    Jul 30 07:15 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    The Bear on Wall Street is quite different from the actual animal. This Bear tends to hibernate in the summer, roars out of its cave out of pure hunger in October, and is usually satiated by mid winter. Usually by March or April it is about ready to hibernate again.
    Jul 30 08:13 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Reminds me of the BusinessWeek cover from August 1979, "Death of Equities". This was the ultimate contrarian single and I wouldn't be surprised if the Newsweek cover will be as well.
    Jul 30 08:35 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    contrarian SIGNAL...


    On Jul 30 08:35 PM Donkey Kong wrote:

    > Reminds me of the BusinessWeek cover from August 1979, "Death of
    > Equities". This was the ultimate contrarian single and I wouldn't
    > be surprised if the Newsweek cover will be as well.
    Jul 30 08:35 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    If you want to know why the market keeps rising try reading this!!!
    also helps expaln why Pe's trading at non rational levels!!! your tax dollar at work!!
    From A Former Goldman Managing Director: How You Finance Goldman Sachs’ Profits
    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/30/2009 17:10 -0500

    Alan Grayson Bank of America Bankruptcy Banks Ben Bernanke Bonuses Cash CEO Commercial Paper Compensation Comptroller of the Currency Credit Debt Derivatives Earnings FDIC FED Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Federal Reserve Federal Reserve System Goldman Sachs Jamie Dimon Lehman Brothers Liquidity Merrill Lynch Money Morgan Stanley New York Times Office of the Comptroller of the Currency SEC Speculation TARP Toxic assets Trade VaR


    By Nomi Prins, via Mother Jones

    July 28, 2009 -- This is perhaps the most important thing I learned over my years working on Wall Street, including as a managing director at Goldman Sachs: Numbers lie. In a normal time, the fact that the numbers generated by the nation's biggest banks can't be trusted might not matter very much to the rest of us. But since the record bank profits we're now hearing about are essentially created by massive federal funding, perhaps it behooves us to dig beneath their data. On July 27, 10 congressmen, led by Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), did just that, writing a letter to Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke questioning the Fed's role in Goldman's rapid return to the top of Wall Street.

    To understand this particular giveaway, look back to September 21, 2008. It was a frenzied night for Goldman Sachs and the only other remaining major investment bank, Morgan Stanley. Their three main competitors were gone. Bear Stearns had been taken over by JPMorgan Chase in March, 2008, Lehman Brothers had just declared bankruptcy due to lack of capital, and Bank of America had been pushed to acquire Merrill Lynch because the firm didn't have enough cash to survive on its own. Anxious to avoid a similar fate, hat in hand, they came to the Fed for access to desperately needed capital. All they had to do was become bank holding companies to get it. So, without so much as clearing the standard five-day antitrust waiting period for such a change, the Fed granted their wish.

    Bank holding companies (which all the biggest financial firms now are) come under the regulatory purview of the Fed, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and the FDIC. The capital they keep in reserve in case of emergency (like, say, toxic assets hemorrhaging on their books, or credit derivatives trades not being paid) is supposed to be greater than investment banks'. That's the trade-off. You get access to federal assistance, you pony up more capital, and you take less risk.

    Goldman didn't like the last part. It makes most of its money speculating, or trading. So it asked the Fed to be exempt from what's called the Market Risk Rules that bank holding companies adhere to when computing their risk.

    Keep in mind that by virtue of becoming a bank holding company, Goldman received a total of $63.6 billion in federal subsidies (that we know about—probably more if the Fed were ever forced to disclose its $7.6 trillion of borrower details). There was the $10 billion it got from TARP (which it repaid), the $12.9 billion it grabbed from AIG's spoils—even though Goldman had stated beforehand that it was protected from losses incurred by AIG's free fall, and if that were the case, would not have needed that money, let alone deserved it. Then, there's the $29.7 billion it's used so far out of the $35 billion it has available, backed by the FDIC's Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program, and finally, there's the $11 billion available under the Fed's Commercial Paper Funding Facility.

    Tactically, after bagging this bounty, Goldman asked the Fed, its new regulator, if it could use its old risk model to determine capital reserves. It wanted to use the model that its old investment bank regulator, the SEC, was fine with, called VaR, or value at risk. VaR pretty much allows banks to plug in their own parameters, and based on these, calculate how much risk they have, and thus how much capital they need to hold against it. VaR was the same lax SEC-approved risk model that investment banks such as Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers used, with the aforementioned results.

    On February 5, 2009, the Fed granted Goldman's request. This meant that not only was Goldman getting big federal subsidies, but also that it could keep betting big without saving aside as much capital as the other banks. Using VaR gave Goldman more leeway to, well, accentuate the positive. Yes, Goldman is a more risk-prone firm now than it was before it got to play with our money.

    Which brings us back to these recent quarterly earnings. Goldman posted record profits of $3.4 billion on revenues of $13.76 billion. More than 78 precent of those revenues came from its most risky division, the one that requires the most capital to operate, Trading and Principal Investments. Of those, the Fixed Income, Currency and Commodities (FICC) area within that division brought in a record $6.8 billion in revenues. That's the division, by the way, that I worked in and that Lloyd Blankfein managed on his way up the Goldman totem pole. (It's also the division that would stand to gain the most if Waxman's cap-and-trade bill passes.)

    Since Goldman is trading big with our money, why not also use it to pay big bonuses? It's not like there are any strings attached. For the first half of 2009, Goldman set aside $11.4 billion for compensation—34 percent more than for the first half of 2008, keeping them on target for a record bonus year—even though they still owe the federal government $53.6 billion, a sum more than four times that bonus amount.

    But capital is still key. Capital is the lifeblood that pumps through a financial organization. You can't trade without it. As of June 26, 2009, Goldman's total capital was $254 billion, but that included $191 billion in unsecured long-term borrowing (meaning money it had borrowed without putting up any collateral for it). On November 28, 2008 (4Q 2008), it had only $168 billion in unsecured long-term borrowing. Thus, its long-term unsecured debt jumped 14 percent. Though Goldman doesn't disclose exactly where all this debt comes from, given the $23 billion jump, we can only wonder whether some of it has come from government subsidies or the Fed's secret facilities.

    Not only that, by virtue of how it's set up, most of Goldman's unsecured funding comes in through its parent company, Group Inc. (Think the top point of an umbrella with each spoke being a subsidiary.) This parent parcels that money out to Goldman's subsidiaries, some of which are regulated, some of which aren't. This means that even though Goldman is supposed to be regulated by the Fed and other agencies, it has unregulated elements receiving unsecured funding—just like before the crisis, but with more of our money involved.

    As for JPMorgan Chase, its profit of $2.7 billion was up 36 percent for the second quarter of 2009 vs. the same quarter last year, but a lot of that also came from trading revenues, meaning its speculative endeavors are driving its profits. Over on the consumer side, the firm had to set aside nearly $30 billion in reserve for credit-related losses. Riding on its trading laurels, when its consumer business is still in deterioration mode, is not a recipe for stability, no matter how much cheering JPMorgan Chase's results got from Wall Street. Betting is betting.

    Let's pause for some reflection: The bank "stars" made most of their money on speculation, got nearly $124 billion in government guarantees and subsidies between them over the past year and a half, yet saw continued losses in the credit products most affected by consumer credit problems. Both are setting aside top-dollar bonuses. JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon mentioned that he's concerned about attracting talent, a translation for wanting to pay investment bankers big bucks—because, after all, they suffered so terribly last year, and he needs to stay competitive with his friends at Goldman. This doesn't add up to a really healthy scenario. It's more like bad déjà vu.

    As a recent New York Times article (and many other publications in different words) said, "For the most part, the worst of the financial crisis seems to be over." Sure, the crisis may appear to be over because the major banks of Wall Street are speculating well with government subsidies. But that's a dangerous conclusion. It doesn't mean that finance firms could thrive without the artificial, public-funded assistance. And it certainly doesn't mean that consumers are any better off than they were before the crisis emerged. It's just that they didn't get the same generous subsidies.

    Additional research by Clark Merrefield.

    Article From Mother Jones, h/t amsterdamtrader
    Jul 30 09:22 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    People can be 100% correct that the stock market can rally even though the economy doesn't get better. Just raise Treasury bonds rates another 1% with the threat of more reaises to come and watch the money fly into commodities and equities.

    Personally, speaking I have mentioned I already hedged my position on Wed. Why should I feel bad about lowering my risk if I can get very high prices on low volume. If It was high volume I would be much more inclined to ride things up, but low volume tends to indicate there isn't enough real buying demand if people rush for the exit doors, just a lot of HFT price marker trades that close before you get a good massive volume sell in. Place an order to buy or sell 100,000 shares. Just watch those counter orders melt into nothingless. Suddenly Goldman can't sell to ML or HSBC and then sell the shares back in 1/1,000 of a second.
    Jul 30 10:46 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Low Treasury rates are contributing to the bubble bust cycle - low rates force people to seek out higher returns through more risk. This debt bubble was 20 years in the making and growing exponentially - I don't think it will be solved in 2 years and a net 30% market correction - stocks are headed lower soon - the current SPX bullishness level is 72.6 up from 46% 3 weeks ago - this thing peaks between 75 and 80 - when it peaks the market starts going straight down.
    Jul 30 11:56 PM | Link | Reply
  •  
    At which point the HFT accelerates Bens helecopter on its plunge into the abyss. All the while the bears on board are screaming with glee while Ben pulls up hard on the helecopter stick. Kudlow the co-pilot screaming green shoots, green shoots. Green shoots I pray.

    This ride just keeps going, and going, and going.

    I really doubt it is over yet.

    On Jul 30 11:56 PM bondtrdr wrote:

    > Low Treasury rates are contributing to the bubble bust cycle - low
    > rates force people to seek out higher returns through more risk.
    > This debt bubble was 20 years in the making and growing exponentially
    > - I don't think it will be solved in 2 years and a net 30% market
    > correction - stocks are headed lower soon - the current SPX bullishness
    > level is 72.6 up from 46% 3 weeks ago - this thing peaks between
    > 75 and 80 - when it peaks the market starts going straight down.
    Jul 31 08:44 AM | Link | Reply
  •  
    Yes, please buy more stocks so you can sell them at S & P 200 and THEN I can buy them.
    Jul 31 01:25 PM | Link | Reply
Viewing Comments 1-19 out of 19