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David Pyott – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Jeff Edwards – Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Dr. Scott Whitcup – Executive Vice President, Research and Development

Jim Barlow – Senior Vice President and Corporate Controller

Jim Hindman – Senior Vice President, Treasury Risk and Investor Relations

Joann Bradley

Analysts

Ken Cacciatore – Cowen and Co.

Ronny Gal – Bernstein

Corey Davis – Natixis Bleichroeder

Larry Biegelsen – Wells Fargo

Gary Nachman – Leerink Swann

Scott Hirsch – Credit Suisse

Greg Gilbert – BAS-ML

Peter Bye – Jefferies & Company

Marc Goodman – UBS

Allergan Inc. (AGN) Q2 2009 Earnings Call July 31, 2009 11:00 AM ET

Operator

Welcome to the Allergan second quarter 2009 earnings call. (Operator Instructions) I would now like to turn the call over to Jim Hindman, Senior Vice President, Treasury Risk and Investor Relations.

Jim Hindman

With me for today's conference call is David Pyott, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Jeff Edwards, Executive Vice President, Finance and Business Development, Chief Financial Officer, Dr. Scott Whitcup, Executive Vice President, Research and Development, Chief Scientific Officer, and Jim Barlow, Senior Vice President and Corporate Controller.

Before we move ahead, I would like to remind you that certain statements that we will make in this presentation are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements reflect Allergan's judgment and analysis only as of today, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on a number of factors affecting Allergan's businesses.

Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For a more thorough discussion of the risks and uncertainties associated with the forward-looking statements to be made in this conference call and webcast, we refer you to the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements that is included in our second quarter 2009 Earnings Release, which was furnished to the SEC today on Form 8-K, as well as our filings with the SEC referenced in that disclaimer.

We will follow-up the question and answer session of this call with a short listen-only segment, where we'll provide additional miscellaneous information that relates to our business. Under Regulation FD, in order to be able to discuss this information freely during the quarter, we must be sure that it is in the public domain. This conference call and accompanying webcast are being simultaneous broadcast on the Internet with replays available for one week. You can access this information on our website at www.allergan.com.

At this point, I would like to turn the call over to David Pyott.

David Pyott

Overall sales in the second quarter decreased 3.2% in dollars, again, impacted by the strength of the U.S. dollar versus other foreign currencies, which dragged down sales by 540 basis points. In local currencies, sales increased by 2.2% as we're now beginning to observe what appears to be the bottoming out of the effect of the U.S. economy on our cash pay businesses.

During this recession, it is evident that the higher the value of the cash pay procedure, the more the product market has been affected by the reduction in discretionary consumer spending. Of all the cash pay businesses, Botox Cosmetic has clearly been the most resilient. During this quarter, we also saw an improvement in performance of the Juvederm dermal filler line reflecting improving market conditions and some market share gains. Finally, we're pleased with the initial sales performance of Latisse.

Regarding sales guidance for the full year, we have not increased in the aggregate the top end of the range as there still remains uncertainty regarding the global economy, the exact timing of outstanding product approvals from the FDA, and other regulatory agencies, as well as volatile foreign exchange rates.

Regarding earnings in the second quarter, we generated non-GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.75, which was a very strong increase of 19.0% over Q2 of 2008, based on acceptable sales but particularly driven by enormous attention to cost management and efficiencies.

On the SG&A side, we have already garnered many of the savings from the restructuring program that we announced at the end of January, and in fact have identified new ways to run our businesses at lower cost on an ongoing basis. As a result of our SG&A ratio, as a percentage of sales fell from 42.9% a year ago to 38.8% this year, all based on the adjusted non-GAAP numbers in our press release. Even with the benefit of lower media costs, we spent approximately the same amount in dollars on DTC in Q2 of this year as in Q2 of 2008.

Turning to R&D, expenditure decreased as we completed many expensive Phase 3 trials, Ozurdex for retinal vein occlusion, Botox for chronic migraine, Acuvail, Zymar X and the Zymar pediatric trial. We're also beginning to benefit from negotiated price reductions with a reduced number of preferred CRO partners also by bringing in house a greater number of patients in our clinical trials, which is considerably cheaper, and moving a greater proportion of our trials to lower cost locations overseas.

As a result of these factors, the percentage of sales spent on R&D fell from 17.3% in Q2 of 2009 to 14.4% in Q2 of this year. Let me repeat that, 17.3% in the prior year to 14.4% this year, again, based on the non-GAAP numbers.

We plan a notable ramp up in R&D expenditure in the second half of the year as we fully recruit new trials such as Famotadine for retinal disease, utilizing an [overture] delivery system, and start a number of new studies including trials for a novel Prostaglandin analog, sustained release program for glaucoma, a number of other line extensions for glaucoma, the European trial for Latisse and the probability of new in license programs.

Since the last earnings call, we've had several notable R&D approvals, Ozurdex, which brings us into the market for retinal ophthalmic pharmaceuticals, the fastest growing parts of the ophthalmic world market for Accuvail, Lumigan in Japan, as well as Lumigan 0.01% in Canada. We also filed an application for our next generation Zymar X product with the FDA.

As we reload our pipeline with new clinical candidates, we filed the U.S.IND for Botox for BPH, building upon early trials ex-U.S., as well as advancing our Phase II program for our next generation Prostaglandin analog. During the remainder of 2009, we expect FDA approvals for Lumigan X, Juvederm with Lidocaine, and the 410 Shape Gel Implant.

Regarding Botox for chronic migraine, after completing our End-of-Phase III meeting with the FDA, we intend to file the sBLA by the end of third quarter. Some of the data from our Phase III trials will be presented at the American Headache Society, which will take place from September 10 to the 13th in Philadelphia. Regarding Phase III-[B] study on Ozurdex, exploring the use of Ozurdex in combination with Lucentis treatment, we plan to publish the data and present them at the Macular Society, which is in February of 2010.

Now commenting on the sales performance of the individual businesses, Botox Q2 sales decreased year-over-year by 3.2% in dollars, but grew at 2.7% in local currencies marking a small improvement over the local currency growth in the first quarter. As yet, we have not felt any real impact from the launch of Dysport, a shipping of that product commenced on June 15, too late in the quarter to affect our results.

Based on feedback from the marketplace, it is evident that physicians who have had a long clinical history of Botox are grappling with the challenges associated with the fact that Dysport is not interchangeable with Botox and there's no valid dose conversion ratio between the products.

Also including the issues that are somewhat unique associated with dilution, number of units, injection points, and number of units per injection point. The lack of interchangeability of botuline intoxins is emphasized in FDA labeling and also the Dysport patient medication guide, which is one the requirements of the REMS program.

Physicians are also aware of the high levels of patient satisfaction based on 20 years of experience for the Botox brand and seven years of experience since the FDA approval of Botox Cosmetic, as they weigh out the risks versus benefits of switching patients, as well as starting to novel patients.

In order to support physicians in their endeavors to bring back their Botox and Juvederm patients for re-treatments, we've made available a number of consumer promotions. Regarding a REMS program for Botox, we believe that a new REMS and new label will be approved and announced imminently. Overall in the U.S., we're satisfied that we were very well prepared for the arrival of competition.

In Europe, Galderma Azzalure has only been available in the U.K. and France for part of the quarter, and has not made a noticeable impact in the market, given that Dysport had been broadly available, nor an impact on our sales of Vistabel, the trade name for Botox Cosmetic.

Looking at market shares in Q1, the last quarter for which we have in-market sales estimates, we estimate that we have maintained global market share at around 83%. In Europe, we picked up a little share over the last few quarters, although there we compete both against Dysport and Ziaban, with the gains coming in the therapeutic franchise as we maintain aesthetic share at well over 80%.

Moving on to eye care pharmaceuticals, sales in Q2 declined by 2.5% in dollars, but grew by 2.9% in local currencies. Per IMS Global for Q1, the global market for ophthalmic pharmaceuticals increased 11% year-over-year and 8%, if one excludes the fast growing segment of retinal therapeutics. Allergan grew in-market 11% and was the fastest growing global player outside Japan, a market where we do not have a direct presence.

In the U.S., in market sales continue to run ahead of our X factory sales. In the ophthalmic pharmaceutical market year-to-date June, Verispan reports Allegan growing at 13.6% in a market expanding at 8.7% in acquisition dollars, which makes Allergan the fastest growing major company.

Factoring in the artificial tears market using data from IRI, Allergan grew year-to-date 12.1% in the overall ophthalmic market. Within the artificial tears market, which has been impacted by consumer spending restraint, Allergan has lost share. We have put detailing resources and something activities back into the artificial tears franchise to address this situation.

Regarding Restasis, we are pleased with the in-market performance as reported by Verispan, which shows Restasis growing at 16.5% in terms of acquisition dollars. It is to be noted that Restasis script growth is not reliable as a measure of performance as we fill ever higher amounts of product per script.

We also in May introduced a new larger [60-vial] tray.

In the U.S., we're fortunate that we're focused on those market segments which have the most attractive growth characteristics. In addition to the therapeutic dry eye category which we created, Verispan shows Q2 acquisition dollar growth of 10% for glaucoma, 31% for non-steroidal anti-inflammatories and 11% for anti-infectives prescribed by ophthalmologists, with Allergan performing well in each segment.

We're very excited to be soon launching our innovative product Ozurdex to U.S. retinal specialists. Alcon has announced that they intend to introduce a generic [copramonadine] 0.15% in the fourth quarter of this year pursuant to a royalty bearing license with Allergan. We have prepared for this event for a long time. Combigan continues on a strong growth trajectory based on both an increasing number of prescribers and higher number of prescriptions per physician and now accounts for 43% of all Cosopt prescriptions, whether branded or generic.

As physicians move from older versions of Alphagan to our new generation with lower drug exposure, we're satisfied that per the latest Verispan data, which is two weeks ago, Alphagan P 0.1% stood at 57% of new prescriptions of the overall Alphagan franchise. Regarding non-steroidals, we are pleased that we'll soon be shipping Acuvail before the launch of a generic of Acular at the end of this year.

Acuvail has the advantage of BID versus four times per day dosing, a very low level of burning and stinging upon application compared to Acular, and the overall comfort of a non-preserved unit dose formulation.

Regarding Lumigan, we're excited that we have recently published four Phase IV studies and data that show excellent results when patients are switched from Zylatin to Lumigan, both for lowering of intraocular pressure and tolerability regarding hyperemia and drug discontinuations.

Outside the U.S., we're pleased that we have made significant progress in the fast growing markets of Asia. In Korea, we established a joint venture with Samil Pharmaceuticals, the leading Korean ophthalmic established over 60 years ago, which now combines the Samil and Allergan product ranges.

In China, we established a direct sales and marketing presence in Q2 and continue to grow strongly in India, Southeast Asia, as well as in Eastern Europe. Ganfort was recently launched in Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia. Restasis was approved in Hong Kong.

In Latin America, we've been the fastest growing company in 2009. In Europe, we also remained the fastest growing major company with continuing share gains based on the performance of [Optif], other tear brands, Ganfort and [Palpigan], even as we were negatively affected by the arrival of generic [sadalfigan].

Skin care in Q2 grew a spectacular 52%, boosted by the launches of both Latisse and Aczone. Latisse sales at $13 million were higher than in Q1, although we did not have the benefit of the Q1 pipelining of wholesalers, retailers and doctors offices. Since the approval of Latisse, we have scored 600 million media impressions thanks to the interest in this innovative product and our PR campaigns.

Many doctors value the creation of a brand new category, especially in the current economic environment that is bringing both new, as well as younger patients, into their offices. Since the plighting of our DTC campaign with Brooke Shields on TV and also in print, we've seen a substantial increase in brand awareness. Customer reorder rates are excellent. Latisse was approved in Korea, a very significant market for medical aesthetics, and will be our first overseas market.

Regarding Aczone, we have seen uptake tracking that of other recently launched acne drugs in terms of market share. From July, we have Skinmedica as a partner to promote Aczone to pediatricians. Tazorac acquisition dollars in Q2 were 2% lower than Q2 of 2008.

In the urology business, sales in Q2 increased by 45% over Q2 of 2008, due to the pattern of wholesale orders in Q2 of last year. A more reliable measure of performance for the Sanctura franchise is the small decline year-to-date of 1.2%. Regarding managed care coverage, we are very pleased with this coverage and tier levels and commercial plans, but still have some more potential in Part D plans.

Regarding facial aesthetics, Q2 sales decreased 11.7% and also declined 4.5% in local currencies versus Q2 of 2008. However, the rate of decline appears to be moderating in the U.S. and Europe as the economy stabilized.

Sales decline in the U.S., where we believe that we have maintained market share, and Europe were offset by gains in Canada, Australia, Asia, and Latin America, driven by the successful adoption of the Juvederm plus Lidocaine product.

In the U.S., Canada, Australia and the major markets of Latin America, we have very rapidly become the market leader in the dermal filler category. In Asia, we're still early in the cycle of the approvals and introduction of both Juvederm and Juvederm plus Lidocaine.

In Europe, we still have potential for improvement, as we're about 10 market share points behind Restolin in the premium dermal filler category. In the quarter, Juvederm plus Lidocaine was launched in Russia. In Eastern Europe we suffered sales declines due to local currency devaluations versus the euro, and also some realignment of distributors.

Turning to breast aesthetics, sales decreased 15.8% in dollars, 11.0% in local currencies versus Q2 of 2008. So far, we have not detected an improvement in market conditions. Globally, we estimate that our market share in Q1 of 2009 was stable versus the period a year earlier. In the U.S., the decline in volume of breast augmentation procedures is only being minimally offset by the pickup in value, as the market continues to slowly move towards high priced silicone gel products.

Volume declines in Europe have been even greater than the U.S. with a broad disparity in performance depending on the economic conditions of individual markets. In Europe, some of the small manufacturers appear to be at risk of insolvency. Regarding obesity intervention, this business continues to be affected by the impact of co-pays, which obviously come out of discretionary consumer expenditure, as well as cutbacks in government spending, especially in Southern Europe.

Sales in Q2 declined 13.6% in dollars and 9.1% in local currencies. Double-digit declines in the U.S. where we see share loss versus the culture a year ago, but stable share across the course of 2009 are offset by flat sales in local currencies outside the United States. Good growth continues in Canada, Australia, the U.K., and Brazil. In the European Union we are very pleased that our label now states that weight loss associated with Lap-Band has been shown to improve or lead to remission of Type II Diabetes.

Looking out to the second half of the year, we'll continue to pay careful attention to securing the remaining product approvals, executing our operational plans, while we pay careful attention to costs and to stemming competitive intrusion.

I'll now pass over to Jeff Edwards who will comment on financial results.

Jeff Edwards

During the second quarter of 2009 Allergan continued to demonstrate its ability to generate strong earnings performance despite a somewhat difficult economic period and the challenges that a company in a strong U.S. dollar environment. Despite these headwinds the depth and breadth of our businesses and relentless focus on expense control allowed the company to overachieve our sales and earnings per share guidance for the quarter.

We continued to make thoughtfully direct investments in the areas of our business where the likely financial returns are more significant while carefully controlling investments across the components of our business that we deemed to generate less favorable financial results in this soft economic environment.

This targeted approach enabled the company to deliver non-GAAP diluted EPS results above the top end of our guidance range. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share for the second quarter were $0.75 marking a 19% increase over 2008 results for the same quarter. A reconciliation of all of the adjustments to GAAP earnings is set out in our earnings release.

Non-GAAP selling general and administrative expenses were 38.8% of product net sales for the quarter totaling $434 million. In spite of the company's focus on cost controls during the quarter, Allergan was able to make meaningful investments to select high return projects which represent important growth drivers for 2009 and beyond, including the launch of our DTC campaign on Latisse.

With respect to our expectations for the SG&A category for the remainder of the year, we expect to continue with our disciplined approach to spending and investment. Where appropriate we will make meaningful value based investments in both sales and marketing and research and development areas with a focus of creating positive momentum behind important current and future revenue drivers. Likewise our oversight over maintenance based costs will be substantial.

Excluding the effects of non-GAAP adjustments and amortization of acquired intangibles, Allergan's Q2, 2009 gross margin of 82.9% decreased by 50 basis points when compared to Q2 of the prior year, driven primarily by the negative impact on net sales from the foreign currency translation effect of a stronger dollar, and by lower volumes and less efficient absorption within the medical device business.

Excluding the effects of non-GAAP adjustments, Allergan's operating income ratio increased by an excess of 600 basis points when compared to Q2 of the prior year. Allergan's discipline and a selective approach centered on maximizing investment return and our commitment to cost moderation has enabled the company to generate the significant improvement to the operating income performance.

With respect to our balance sheet, consolidated Allergan day sales outstanding was 47 days while consolidated Allergan inventory days on hand was 109 days, a reduction of 23 days since the end of our first quarter and our lowest monthly DOH level since February, 2008. Of course, the traditional tracking of days relating to inventory and receivables is an important analytic metric; however, an even more important area of focus is our commitment to further improve our management of working capital accounts and use of capital.

Six months into 2009 we are quite pleased with the progress we have made in the way our capital is utilized and the returns we are generating with this capital. At the end of the second quarter Allergan's cash and cash and debt positions total approximately $1.4 billion and a negative $105 million respectively. Operating cash flow after capital expenditures was approximately $317 million for the quarter, an increase of approximately $151 million over the $166 million reported in Q2 2008, as Allergan continues to sustain strong cash generating capabilities.

Turning to our guidance, what we provided today accounts for Allergan's current perspective on the state of economic conditions and foreign currency markets for the remainder of 2009. While Allergen has produced strong results during the first half of 2009, there are still a number of variables that may impact performance during the second half of the year, including potential movements within the macro economy, continued volatility of foreign exchange rates, competition against Botox, generic intrusion against Alphagan P 0.15, and Acular, and the extent of success realized by Allergan's recent anticipated product launches.

As stated during our last earnings call in early May, we will continue to work diligently to meet the targets provided and believe that Allergan is well positioned to deal with many variables we currently face. If necessary the company does have the latitude to make further adjustments to our spending plans. However, we are very much focused on high quality, long term performance and do not want to take actions that are either short sighted or could negatively impact our future.

Regarding guidance for the full year 2009, Allergan expects total product net sales in the range of between $4 billion $200 million and $4 billion $300 million, and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share to be between $2.71 and $2.75. For your information, specific product sales guidance is included within our earnings release.

With respect to R&D investment in 2009, Allergan continues to make substantial commitments to spending across both our medical device and pharmaceutical technology portfolios, while driving cost reduction through efficiency programs in R&D. We project the full year non-GAAP R&D ratio to product net sales to be approximately 16% to 17% for 2009.

For the third quarter of 2009, including the estimated impact of currency, Allergan estimates product net sales in the range of $1 billion $50 million to $1 billion $100 million and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share to be in the range of $0.67 to $0.69.

As a reminder when looking at year over year quarterly EPS growth rates for the remainder of 2009, it is important to remember that in 2008 the fourth quarter EPS was positively impacted by approximately $0.04 due to the retroactive benefit caused by the renewal of the U.S. R&D tax credit, as the full year benefit of the credit for 2008 was recorded in the fourth quarter. Adjusting prior quarters in 2008 to account for this $0.04 benefit will provide a more comparable base to calculate EPS growth throughout 2009.

In spite of the challenges evident in today's market, the first half of 2009 has been quite solid for Allergan. Moreover we are pleased with the quality of our second quarter results as they reflect the value of the depth and breadth of our diversified lines of business, as well as Allergan's ability to effectively manage its businesses though difficult markets. We believe that Allergan is very well positioned to perform from a position of strength once we emerge from this economic downturn.

With that operator I'd like now to open the call to questions.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Ken Cacciatore – Cowen and Co.

Ken Cacciatore – Cowen and Co.

Just a couple of questions, David on the Dysport launch anything about the early production that's surprising to you, or has it been as you have anticipated. I know you indicated that the impact has been marginal to date but, again, anything as you have been observing the rollout that you found surprising?

Then for Jeff on your guidance, Alphagan P generic impact are you anticipating that the 0.10 holds what it has already achieved or that it continues to grow or that it declines once the 0.15 is made available?

David Pyott

I'll take them in order. First of all, Dysport's introduction, as we've merely been saying for quite a long time now, even before the FDA came out with a very strong position on avoiding mix-ups and stressing that lack of interchangeability, we of course know the products so well. You know we've been competing not on the videoscreen we've been competing in reality in Europe for 20 years, and literally for a people adopting a new product in this case, Dysport, it is like learning a new language.

You know I've said its like learning French. Now there's lots of people in America who either speak French or capable of learning French, but only they can decide whether it's worth all the effort. And I think now that the reality has arrived each individual physician is going through that whole process, of course also, another part of the process is the physician has to decide how are they going to price the procedure. And, of course, the cost of the product, meaning the botulinum toxin, is only part of the overall delivery.

I've made the remark, when we go to a restaurant, we don't ask the chef at the end of the meal what the ingredients cost, we just pay the bill and that's just the exact way the consumers do it. So, obviously, we're monitoring this situation very carefully. We know from Europe and around the world that we normally hold a very major part of the market and that's our intent. Now, that being considered, of course, we have to model some market share loss because we're realistic people.

Now, answering your second question, if you look at the growth of Alphagan-P and Combigan, you can see those two products 0.1 and Combigan have been taking a larger and larger percentage of the franchise. And if you look particularly at the division between 0.1 and 0.15, we've been consistently and steadily moving this number up.

In my remarks I stated, as of two weeks ago which is the last data point, we're now at 57% new prescription share, if you take 0.1 of the total of the two Alphagan products and we expect that will continue and that this will also continue once the new product has arrived, i.e. the generic from Alcon.

Ken Cacciatore – Cowen and Co.

And in your press release, you indicated "incorporating" feedback from the FDA on the Botox migraine. Do you care to put a little context around those discussions?

Dr. Scott Whitcup

Since we completed the Phase IIIs we've been in frequent contact with the review division. We had an end of Phase III meeting and I would describe the meeting as very constructive. They gave us some recommendations for some additional data to include in the BLA and we're in the midst of incorporating those data and plan to file at the end of this quarter.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ronny Gal – Bernstein.

Ronny Gal – Bernstein

Scott, following up on the headache data, did anything come up in this conversation regarding the length of the review? You kind of mention it in sNDA, any reason to assume it will be less than 10 months?

Dr. Scott Whitcup

Clearly, we believe it's an unmet medical need so we'll ask for priority review. On the other hand, given that there are treatments for migraine, I think you'd have to assume it's going to be a 10-months review, but we always ask for priority review when we have an unmet medical need.

Ronny Gal – Bernstein

Secondly, a safety question around Latisse, have you gotten any reports yet about patients that experienced a change in eye color as a result of the treatment.

Dr. Scott Whitcup

We review the date pretty closely and to date we've seen no cases where we believe that there's a Latisse induced change in iris color. As you know, with Lumigan for glaucoma it was extremely rare and with Lumigan you're getting about 20-fold more drug exposure.

Ronny Gal – Bernstein

David, can you tell us a little bit about Botox in Japan and China it's now been launched. How should we think about the royalty stream coming from those two countries? Any experience coming from GSK about their early experience with drugs and the rate in which it will come to market and market will grow?

David Pyott

Well, obviously, early days for both countries and as you know we don't comment royalty rates either that we pay or receive, but you should certainly assume these are in line with a product that, at the time, was late stage and clearly had a track record of approval around the world. So I think you can sort of think about the number that would be fairly reliable.

Ronny Gal – Bernstein

So, kind of like divide the U.S. population by the Japanese population and do some sort of some small corrections from there?

David Pyott

Yes, you're very good at doing those numbers, so I'll leave that up to you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Corey Davis – Natixis.

Corey Davis – Natixis Bleichroeder

I know you can't talk much about the studies that have been done on migraine pending the publication, but maybe you can offer some remarks, not so much on the statistical significance of the outcome, but on the clinical significance of the data, and were there other endpoints that were included in the study that were more functional endpoints or quality of life endpoints that will be considered by the FDA as the overall benefit/risk package for the drug?

Scott Whitcup

That's a great question and something that we actually spent a fair bit of time going into the design of the study. The one thing that we did comment on publicly is that the quality of life, and we used the standard measure for migraine, the hit stick, was significantly improved with Botox in both of the Phase III trials and I think that's a key factor that people will look at, the improved quality of life.

We have a number of additional endpoints, including total number of headache hours, migraine days, probable migraine days, a number of secondary endpoints that are a part of the package, and we've also looked at medication use. I think all of those parameters are important. As you say, people want to know not only did you get a statistically significant benefit, but what does it mean to the patient and we're confident that the patients are better off with treatment and those data will be coming out shortly.

Corey Davis – Natixis Bleichroeder

I know this is a touchy subject, but is there any chance that your strategy with the 0.15% Alphagan follows your previous strategy on Alphagan?

David Pyott

I think, in this case, we have to go back to the antecedents of our agreement with Alcon and clearly in that agreement there were clear parameters set out and being really frank, Alcon wouldn't have agreed to such a thing if we could have removed the meal from the table, so to speak. So assume that their product will be on the market and our job is to convince physicians that the new product is better than the old one.

Operator

Our next question comes from Larry Biegelsen – Wells Fargo.

Larry Biegelsen – Wells Fargo

First, again, on chronic daily headache, Scott, the publication status and at this point it sounds like you don't have any plans to start another chronic migraine study as a backup, is that correct?

Dr. Scott Whitcup

So your first question that we're continuing, as you know, our plan was to submit to a top tier journal, we've done that, we haven't said anything else, but we still assume that it will be published in a top tier journal. In terms of your second question, you're correct we have no plans to start an additional Phase III trial.

Larry Biegelsen – Wells Fargo

Then on the toxin procedure trends for cosmetic use in the United States, early on in your remarks, David, you made some encouraging statements. Could you give us a little bit more color on what you see going on in the U.S.

David Pyott

I think beyond what I've already stated, I think the only comment I could maybe add would be that physicians, of course, are quite hesitant because they know there's a very high level of satisfaction with Botox. It was the, if you like, anchor treatment it's the most frequent procedure, frequently it's the reason why people come into the office.

And so when they're actually contemplating do I move this specific patient onto the new treatment, is the result going to be less than fully satisfactory and, of course, there is a real fear of physicians who naturally compete with their peers that if the result isn't exactly perfect, that they will lose that patient and then a lot more patients by word of mouth. And particularly in this climate, the one thing physicians, no matter how successful they are, fear is the loss of patient volume.

Larry Biegelsen – Wells Fargo

David, I should have been clear just procedure growth trends, and then lastly Juvederm with lidocaine just the status on that.

David Pyott

Well, clearly you can see in our numbers, which is a composite obviously of the whole world, I made the remarks that we think we see the bottoming out of the U.S. economy. I've said many times that of all the procedures Botox has been the most resilient. And so we're hoping that Botox will be one of the leading products in terms of which ones come out of the downturn first. For everything I've seen, I would think that hypothesis will be true.

The second question was on Juvederm plus lidocaine, as I stated in my remarks, we're still pretty confident that we'll get this product both approved and on the market during the remainder of this year. And as you know, again from my remarks, everywhere that it was introduced it led to both market expansion and also market share gain, all of which is pretty obvious.

Operator

Our next question comes from Gary Nachman – Leerink Swann.

Gary Nachman – Leerink Swann

First question, what's the status on Botox spasticity? I don't think you mentioned that in your prepared remarks. And did you have any discussions with the FDA on headache, specifically regarding a REMS program for that? Do you think there would be any major differences there from I guess the standard REMS program for Botox.

Scott Whitcup

On spasticity, we previously announced that there were several items that the FDA wanted. We're working on the supplementing the file and getting that back to them in a rough timeframe as we shuffle headache and spasticity is probably right on top of each other about end of the quarter. In terms of the REMS, we don't believe that there'll be anything specific in terms of headache. We think it will follow basically the same medication guide and REMS, with the addition clearly of the chronic migraines, the chronic daily headache label piece, it should be pretty similar.

Gary Nachman – Leerink Swann

And you mentioned that you plan on launching Ozurdex soon. Can you comment at all at this point about what you think pricing might look like and what sort of reimbursement we should expect for that product?

David Pyott

We'll be shipping the product very soon. As a matter of policy, we never pre-announce price. Obviously, we've done a lot of work on this not just internally, but surveys. We've done checks with managed care organizations, how they see it. And we think that this will be a very compelling, in both in terms of efficacy, value, and clearly this will not be a cheap product given the uniqueness of our delivery system and the fact that it provides real benefit for very close to six months. So we're really looking forward to getting started.

Gary Nachman – Leering Swann

Should we think along the lines of pricing for Lucentis as a decent comp?

David Pyott

I don't think we should comment on that. I don't want to mislead anybody. Obviously, we look at that price as kind of the umbrella on the top. And obviously, as I remarked in my opening comments, the importance of our 3B trial is very important in showing what is the utility when you combine Ozurdex with Lucentis. And I think that is a very important milestone in the launch of this product.

Gary Nachman – Leering Swann

Jeff, anything unusual about inventories for Lumigan that came in a little bit higher than what we were expecting?

Jeff Edwards

No, nothing unusual with respect to inventories relating to Lumigan.

Operator

Our next question comes from Scott Hirsh – Credit Suisse.

Scott Hirsch – Credit Suisse

With respect to the Dysport REMS sheet, which talks about the risk of death and troubles with driving following the procedure or anything along those lines, are you going to have a similar language in your REMS sheet to Dysport and what is your sense of the marketing message to your current patients about some of these warnings?

David Pyott

As you know, the FDA, as a matter of policy, really tries to avoid penalization of one product versus another in a class, so you should assume that the wording of our REMS will be very similar to what Dysport has. Of course, life is never totally on an even plane because of course both doctors and patients have a long experience with our product whereas they have, in this country at least, no experience to relativize the statements regarding a new product.

Scott Hirsch – Credit Suisse

And when will your REMS sheet come?

David Pyott

As I stated in my remarks, it will be very soon based on we've submitted all the data to the FDA and I think I used the word imminent even.

Scott Hirsch – Credit Suisse

And with respect to migraine, my understanding is that around 2% of the population has chronic or daily headache migraine versus 10% or 12% having a more frequent or breakthrough chronic migraine. What is your sense of being able to get access to the larger migraine population even if it's off label?

Scott Whitcup

I think we're very focused on the chronic daily headache population. It's a fairly sizable group of patients. That's where the data support its efficacy and I think it's a big opportunity just in that chronic daily headache population.

David Pyott

In fact, we just looked up the epidemiology data and if you look at the prevalence of chronic migraine, this is somewhere between 1.2 and 3.6 million people in the U.S. alone. And, obviously, this isn't just a disease in this country or a problem. It exists around the world. And clearly, this is a program that we talk a lot about in the U.S. very important, but this will be pursued on a global basis.

Scott Hirsch – Credit Suisse

And then just offhand, I think you give it at the end of the call, but what is the global Neurotoxin market share across the products now?

David Pyott

As I stated, if you look at all of the markets globally, we have currently about 83% market share, Dysport has about 10, 11, somewhere in there. And what we've seen in terms of dynamics around the world is that the secondary products come in, whether it is Xeomin in Europe, which is also available now in Latin America, parts of Asia, China Toxin, which exists only really in Asia and parts of Latin America, the Korean Toxin.

Typically what happens is that Dysport is the loser in this because they are positioned as the more price competitive product and then of course all of these other ones I mentioned are all competing for that spot.

Operator

Our next question comes from Greg Gilbert – BAS-ML

Greg Gilbert – BAS-ML

Firstly on Lattise, do you care to share the portion of sales that go through the doc dispense channel versus retail? Can you discuss the potential for the product to be formulated for and used on the scalp and the timeline for that?

David Pyott

I'm not sure that I really want to give you the split between dispensed and direct ship. However, of course, the real skewing that occurs is the three big states where dispensing isn't permitted. And where you're sitting is one. The great state of New York, Texas, and Massachusetts are the big three. Then we have also Utah and New Hampshire and there's one other one I'm forgetting, but not huge.

So if we look at that, that's kind of the major driver there. I think in those states people are getting used to how to handle that. I think also very important in terms of our positioning, and I think it's been very well accepted by the physician community, this is a traffic builder. Particularly if I look back on things that surprise me personally, I would say I was relatively surprised when I did a lot of market visits how enthusiastic plastic surgeons were to bring in new patients using Lattise on a [reluctant] basis versus dermatologists. So that was very encouraging.

I think everybody I speak to really loves the product. The reorder rates, as I mentioned, are really good and in terms of building brand awareness among consumers, that's really moving along with a very strong pace and very much in line with the market model that we build. Now, for wonderful things finally something for us men, as well. Scott is leading the charge there.

Scott Whitcup

We're in the midst of looking at a number of [selections] by Bimatoprost for hair growth on the scalp. Unlike Lumigan for glaucoma, we don't have the eight years plus of clinical trials data so we're sort of starting from scratch. It's a little too early to give you the final timeline but we are working as quickly as we can to get a formulation, get the pre-clinical work done and into the clinic and we'll update you as soon as we have more from timeline.

David Pyott

And we're also doing work on patients who unfortunately have undergone chemotherapy so there's a compassionate part of this story as well.

Scott Whitcup

To David's point, we have a couple of programs for eyelash growth. We have studies to get this approved around the world, and then as part of our FDA advisory committee there was strong support for us using this in children who have lost their eyelashes post-chemotherapy and those studies are soon to kick off as well.

Greg Gilbert – BAS-ML

After the male product, you might be able to get your hands on the trademark for [Matisse], just a suggestion. My second question David is bigger picture in nature, you've shown more earnings per share leverage for this quarter than we're used to seeing over Allergan's history, at least since you've been there.

So I guess my question is once sales growth really starts to accelerate, what are the areas of spending that come back somewhat or are we in a new era of earnings leverage for Allergan whereby you've found a new way to run the business and you no longer buy into the sort of maximum EPS growth of 20% in terms of what you get credit for.

David Pyott

Well, of course, using a bit of humor of course, I like to say that there's nothing finer for a Scotsman than observing cost control. And I would really say in terms of corporate culture, given what we did at the end of January in terms of this was the first layoff we've ever had since my arrival, I think that shook everybody up.

And being on the positive side of that divide, I think that made people realize that when we talk about cost management, we really mean cost management. So I think, as I remarked in my prepared statement, I think we have found ways of operating more efficiently doing things on a different basis.

I think then going to the big picture, the thing that I spend most of my time reflecting upon is how do we further ramp up R&D, because innovation is what it's all about. I think as we all contemplate what will healthcare reform mean for this industry in the very broadest sense, not just Pharma but device, physicians, hospitals, everybody.

I think it's going to really oblige all of us to live in a lower margin, more cost-contained world where we all have to be more efficient. Within that, of course, the world is always looking for innovations. There are unmet medical needs and that's why I made a special point about saying expect to ramp up in R&D expenditure where really we were kind of finishing off a whole slew of big Phase III studies, kind of pause for a second, and then reload and then move on to the next draft of projects.

One other area that I remain extremely convinced works is DTC where permitted. And clearly, our products lend themselves to that and that will continue. So, as really Jeff was stating, I think we have a very good measure of return rates on different types of programs and clearly where I sit, my job is to make sure we continue to spend on those things, not that people like or that are easy to do, but the things that actually deliver the highest return rates and that's what you would you'd expect from us.

Operator

Our next question comes from Peter Bye – Jefferies & Company

Peter Bye – Jefferies & Company

Just a couple follow-ups, one on the spasticity, and you did mentioned the refile is going to sort of be on top of the headache. Is there anything from that process that maybe you can take away that you've learned. You talked about maybe filing for prior review but expecting a 10-month return. Spasticity has been a little more challenging and is there any read-through we can get with that and the headache and just a follow-up to that, just any update on the DOJ on off-label?

Scott Whitcup

In terms of the spasticity, there's quite a few differences between spasticity and chronic daily headache in that chronic daily headache is a brand new BLA spasticity the review divisions basically gone through [inaudible] or some specific items. Given that that's a very busy division, I'm very hesitant to predict a timeline although by [Dufa] going to have to theoretically get back to us within six months. The hope would be that since they've been through a lot of this that maybe it's a bit sooner.

On the Botox Migraine, they'll have 10 months unless we get a prior [review] and my expectation would be that they would take those 10 months.

David Pyott

Regarding the DOJ, obviously this is sort of a long painful process and clearly we cooperate very fully. We produced a mountain of documents in return of all their requirements for information. So this is one where it will just grind on and, obviously, you've seen us spending large sums of money on the DOJ investigation. So beyond that, I really can't comment.

Peter Bye – Jefferies & Company

Lastly, just on the DTC with the REMS coming, as I think you said imminently, are there any restrictions on the DTC for Botox on that or will we notice any change in terms of your DTC strategy there?

David Pyott

Clearly, we looked very quickly to see what examples there are of products that have box warnings yet continue to have DTC advertising so one can learn from that analysis. Clearly, we have to adjust our fair balance and so I think the next step is once we do have a final label and we have a REMS, then we've done a lot of work already, but then we have an opportunity to go back to DDMAC and say here's our proposal and would you please give us a response.

Of course, one thing is that it's very clear that when you have a box warning, you can't have any reminder or un-indicated ads.

Peter Bye – Jefferies & Company

You've been around for a while, you've launched a lot of products and we can all look at sort of other areas where sort of number two comes in with a launch and where share goes, but what's your opinion about what the window really is for medicines, i.e. that you'll never ultimately, "declare victor". But how wide do you think the window really is to launch that and gain the shares? Is it three months, six months before it becomes an, oh, you know, it's already been there done that? I understand it's a tough question, but any qualitative way you could comment on that would be great.

David Pyott

I think I'll be very cautious about reading too much into any early signs. One thing, of course, we do know, and I think some people where the five years that we've been waiting for this for because the product clearly has arrived somewhat late.

Let's be clear that the use of botulinum toxin in cosmesis has been really well known since the early '90s and so Dysport has taken a long time to swim across the Atlantic from whether it was the United Kingdom or France, you can really choose. But we do know from all the interactions around the world that what people learn on, that's what they become comfortable with. That has occurred every single time.

I think in the past people used to somewhat dismiss my statements about the country of my origin which, when I joined this company a decade ago, Dysport had in my estimation over 90% of the market. And it's taken us a long time on the therapeutic side to gradually get to a point where we're now almost parity with them in terms of procedure volume of therapeutics. People are very unanxious to change what they learned and what they experienced and what they know works for them.

Operator

Our next question comes from Marc Goodman – UBS.

Marc Goodman – UBS

This is just a continuation of the other question about not going above 20% EPS. I know in the past you've talked about you have this trend line that you believe in, which is the high teens growth you want to give to investors and you realize that this year is a disappointment, obviously not your fault, but a disappointment to the investors just because it's below that and you'd like to give it back, and in order to do that, you'd have to come in at a higher than let's say 18% growth rate. Is that something you still think about is that something that's realistic for next year? Is it more realistic for '11?

And then second question, Scott, can you talk about what's happening behind the scenes with the Botox [fragment] for pain program? You introduced that back at the R&D meeting and I'm just curious how that's progressing along.

David Pyott

Trying to answer your question in terms of kind of longer term outlook, basically I kind of have to turn that around and say I can give you all the elements to think about, but then you have to go and model all those franchises. There's the challenge of Allergan, that we're not just a one or two or three pony show, there's bigger bits to this.

Now, of course, the biggest challenge that we all have is trying to work out what is the shape of the economic recovery in the United States. If anybody knows that, please just send me an email and I'll give you all my private wealth, right. And, then also, how does that work for Europe, which looks as if it's certainly, I think, six month-ish, depending on which country, behind.

It came in later into the slump, will go out later maybe in certain places takes even longer to get through it. So that's one big imponderable how do you model the recovery of our cash papers and this is not due to Allergan, but due to consumer spending in general in the macro climate.

I think the other thing you've got to model very carefully is the generics. And you know we talked early on in the call about the arrival of 0.15%, and so clearly whilst we've transitioned a lot of the franchise, we're not going to get away completely free and so you've got to model that. You've got model how we move Acular to Acuvail.

Now, given that it's making it simplistic a kind of once upon a time prescription, that's a lot more possible than if this was an ongoing therapy. Obviously, you got to look at Zymar in the future and I'm pleased that that file's now in and, obviously, we expect action on that and again we plan to manage that. So you've just got to think about all these elements.

And I think another one that I would point to that we think a lot about is when it's time to reinvest in Lap-Band because clearly obesity is something that has not been resolved at all. And I remarked in my prepared statements, very significant step in Europe now getting a diabetes benefit into the label in the European Union.

Scott, on pain and botulinum toxin?

Dr. Scott Whitcup

We have a targeted toxin program. Our scientist have been able to engineer in basically any receptor we want and our first program in the clinic targets pain nerves so no muscle effect. We're into the clinic, we've been in the clinic for a while with escalating doses, and I can say without getting the results, which we should have early next year, that the program's going well and it's one of our main areas of investment on the R&D side, both what could be a very interesting and innovative pain therapy, but also as the start of a platform for other therapies in the future.

Marc Goodman – UBS

So you'll let us know what's going on sometime in the first quarter, you think?

Dr. Scott Whitcup

Well, we'll have data as our usual topic. We'll probably look to publish it and this is how innovative, again, we'd be looking for a very top tiered journal, something on the order of New England Journal or even something like Science and Nature, so we're pretty excited about the science and that would probably be our approach.

Jim Hindman

We'd like to thank you for your participation today. If you have any further questions, Joann Bradley, Emil Schultz and I will be available immediately following the call. Joann will now take five minutes to give you market share data.

Joann Bradley

The following market share data we are providing is Allergan's good faith estimate based on the best available data such as IMS, as well as Allergan's internal estimates. Market share and growth rate information is a moving annual total for trailing 12 months as of the end of March, 2009.

The market for ophthalmics is approximately $12.3 billion growing at a rate of 9% and Allergan's market share is 16%. The market for glaucoma approximates $4.8 billion growing at a rate of 6% and Allergan's market share approximates 18%. The market for ocular allergy approximates $1.1 billion growing at a rate of 6% and Allergan's market share approximates 5%. The plain ocular anti-infective market is roughly $1 billion growing at a rate of 3% and Allergan's share is 13%.

The market for ophthalmic nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories is about $400 million growing at a rate of 11% and Allergan's market share is 34%. The artificial tears market inclusive of ointments is approximately $1.2 billion growing at a rate of 9% and Allergan's share is 20%. The U.S. topical market for acne and psoriasis is roughly $1.8 billion with an annual growth rate of 6% and Allergan's market share is 6%.

The top ten markets for neuromodulators are roughly $1.3 billion growing at a rate of roughly 5% and Botox has approximately a 92% market share. The worldwide market for neuromodulators is roughly $1.6 billion growing at a rate of roughly 5% and Botox has approximately an 83% market share. The worldwide market for dermal facial fillers is roughly $650 million declining at a rate of roughly 4% and Allergan has approximately a 32% market share. The U.S. market for dermal facial fillers is roughly $280 million.

The worldwide breast aesthetics markets for aesthetic and reconstructive is roughly $780 million, declining at a rate of roughly 3% and Allergan has approximately a 38% market share. The worldwide bariatric surgery market for the band and balloon segments only is roughly $380 million growing at a rate of between 10% and 15% and Allergan has approximately a 70% to 75% market share.

And that concludes our call for today. Thanks.

Operator

Once again, that does conclude the conference for today. Please disconnect all remaining lines.

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