Should the FCC Force Apple to Stock Competitive Products in Its Own Store? 21 comments
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I'm sure most who follow business news have heard that the FCC is probing Apple's decision to reject Google's (GOOG) internet-calling software and remove certain Google applications from it's app store...
The Federal Communications Commission has launched an inquiry into why Apple Inc. rejected Google Inc.'s Internet-telephony software for the popular iPhone, another sign of the Obama administration's stepped-up scrutiny of competitive practices in the technology industry.
In letters sent late Friday to the two companies and AT&T Inc., the FCC asked why Apple rejected the Google Voice application for the iPhone and removed related applications from its App Store.
This will be ridiculous if it moves forward. Apple (AAPL) just entered the phone space, it might be a little early to say that their iPhone has some sort of insurmountable competitive barrier. Furthermore, I like how the FCC is studying whether it was wrong for Apple to chose which products should be sold in it's own shop. I mean, it's pretty normal that if someone owned their own store, they wouldn't want to place threatening products from their competitors in it. I don't think Starbucks (SBUX) would want to have Dunkin Donuts coffee as an option in its own shops, for instance.
Earlier this year, the non-profit Internet group Free Press asked the FCC to look into why Apple put restrictions on eBay Inc.'s Skype's iPhone application so that it would work on Wi-Fi hotspots, but not over AT&T's 3G wireless network. The agency hasn't launched an inquiry into that case.
The FCC's request for information is part of a broader inquiry on exclusive deals between cellphone carriers and handset manufacturers for popular phones.
Isn't this again pretty fair behavior by anyone who is trying to survive as a business? I mean, when your distribution of phones depends on wireless network owners (this time AT&T (T)) making money, you should have the choice as to what software you want for the phone design that you created and own.
Hopefully this goes nowhere. Now, arguing whether Apple should or should not block certain apps, as a matter of their own choice and benefits, is fair game. But forcing them to incorporate competitive threats into their own design and own store would be to trample over their rights of ownership. This reminds me of the many attacks Microsoft has faced whereby it has been forced to poke holes in it's own products, except even worse given how recently Apple even entred the mobile phone space.
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Technology has a habit of canibalizing products. This will too.
I have google voice, well if you want lower quality, but not me, my business requires the best phone connection at the highest quality. That call I'm on may make or break a deal, which is why I tried 3 carriers before choosing AT&T 5 years ago. I don't like having to pay more but I can't afford to compromise. The advantage of google voice is I can use one number an it will ring all my phones if I choose.
It's not AAPLs fault it's the govt. that allowed the cellular carriers to buy each other, now there is almost no competition between them.
If, for instance, everyone were to use it, then network providers would change their pricing structure to compensate and the cost benefit would be a wash. The carrier makes the same profit, the user makes the same calls, except now, Google gets access to your data.
It cost X amount of dollars to run a network, and AT&T is going to get X no matter whether they are charging you per text message or increasing your rate overall. Google is just taking advantage of a mental paradigm shift to gain user share.
Correct me if I am wrong.
There is no such thing as a free lunch
On Aug 02 02:46 PM abcoates wrote:
> The issue isn't so much about whether Apple chooses to have Google
> Voice in its store, as it is about whether iPhone users have the
> option of using Google Voice (or other apps) if they want to. As
> long as iPhone users are unable to install apps except via the Apple
> Store, Apple risks being forced to sell certain apps even if it doesn't
> want to.
I certainly agree with the concept that a service provider should be able to provide the service it desires to provide as long as there is a public good. The FCC should be able to control the use of the public spectrum (to prevent harm to the public) but not to the point of dictating what content each and every provider must provide.
On Aug 02 12:05 PM Murphy Mac wrote:
> Some of your points make sense with regard to Apple, but not with
> regard to AT&T. AT&T is one of four carriers who control
> approximately 90% of the U.S. market.
>
> A Google Voice app is mostly a threat to AT&T's SMS business,
> as it allows sending and receiving of free SMS messages. Goodbye
> twenty dollars a month for unlimited texting. Indirectly, Google
> Voice as a whole is a threat as people can use their landlines for
> free long distance instead of chewing up cellular minutes.
>
> With that in mind, I'm happy to see the FCC poke a stick at this.
> I doubt anything will come of it. But maybe someone besides Senator
> Herb Kohl will question why the carriers have established twenty
> cents as the cost of an SMS message when industry experts claim the
> actual cost is negligible. That price points to collusion by the
> monopoly carriers.
>
> AT&T might rethink their whole stance: Google Voice could make
> using voice services bearable again, a goal the carriers have not
> lifted a finger to achieve. Voice minutes are hugely profitable,
> especially when the plans require purchasing more minutes than someone
> wants to use. I suspect Google Voice will lead to me using voice
> minutes more often. It would be interesting to know what AT&T
> thinks of that possibility.
What kind of self-proclaimed capitalist are you..? Everyone knows that collusion, cartels, and monopolies are bad for free markets and are illegal for a reason..
This is nothing short of "understood" price fixing agreements between Apple and ATT, a cartel if you will. The goal of which is to maximize joint profits.
Ultimately this is about consumers and consumer choice. Unfortunately ATT not only wants to control the airwaves it also wants to control what they're used for. Ever read 1984...?
Apple, their lapdog, should be ashamed of itself. How ironic is it that the movie Wall-E was about a giant monopoly spinning out of control replacing the Federal government as the power broker in society.
Fred
That statement makes you look like a real fool. Get a grip and leave the ridiculous propaganda points behind.
I am certainly no friend of ATT, and I do think some of their practices verge on monopolistic. I also feel that Apple should reject apps only for security purposes.
But it seems to me inherently unfair that ATT should have to support VOIP on their cell phone network. It really is a case of freeloading. As has been pointed out, ATT has expenses in building a network. I think they should have the option of disallowing Google or Skype usage which circumvents their own services. No matter how much I may think ATT is a rip-off, I still feel this way.
I should add - I think that ATT should have NO say over what apps can be used via Wifi connections, only what can be used over their cell network and only if it can circumvent their own services.
(Disclosures: Long Apple, wife and daughter have ATT but not iPhones, I do not own a cell phone, but I am a huge fan of Skype.)
You have thoughtful comments here, but I do not really agree.
Apple is trying to say that when you buy an iPhone, you really never own it, they continue to own it by virtue of the fact that they can control what you can access.
The point of the App Store is to provide a simple, secure method of accessing apps and to facilitate the whole process to the benefit of all. Outside of security, legality, and reasonable contractual issues, they should not be rejecting apps.
They have marketed an "open mobile computing platform" This implies - i.e. forms a kind of contract with the buyer - that the buyer will have access to anything that the creative developer community will devise. Apple should fulfill this promise.
This is the core of the issue? Will Apple be investigated next for what products it allows to be sold at its physical Apple Stores? Does the government have the right to enquire why a certain peripheral maker's product is not sold there?
If they aren't following the marketing spin they use, with an "open mobile computing platform", then they are failing at matching their product with the marketing spin. But it doesn't mean we can force them to change their design, we simply must note that maybe part of their marketing is BS and decide if we still want to buy their products. So I think it's in their best interest to keep customers happy and satisfied with the iTunes, but we can't force them. It's their product, their design, their app store. I agree they *should* probably allow google's apps, but it's a dangerous leap to go from what I think they should do and what the government is able to *force* them to do.
Google Voice is not VOIP. The calls are completed by making an outgoing voice call or receiving an incoming voice call. If you're using Google Voice to talk to someone using your mobile phone you are consuming your cellular voice minutes. It's not "freeloading" as you suggest.
SMS is another story. Google Voice can be used to completely bypass AT&T for SMS in the U.S. You don't need the app to do this, but it makes it easier and more convenient with an app.