The Case for Shorting Bank of America 27 comments
August 19, 2009
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Should the bear market in US equities resume in the coming months, which I think it will, Bank of America (BAC) may be an excellent shorting opportunity. Here's why:
- The stock has a beta of 2.41 -- quite high. High beta stocks will be appealing to short for those who are very confident in a forthcoming bear market, as a higher beta suggests greater volatility and a more powerful move in the direction of the overall market trend.
- A P/E ratio of 38.18, more than twice that of the S&P 500, seems a bit excessive in my opinion -- doubly so when one considers that BAC is a mature company in a troubled industry (banking). Based on P/E ratio alone, I would expect price to fall by 50%.
- The technicals are particularly appealing, in my opinion. Below is a daily chart. Note the RSI divergence -- prices make new highs, but RSI does not. This suggests the uptrend is running out of strength. We also see a doji and an inverted hammer in the last two candles -- this fact, coupled with the rangebound price action, also suggest the uptrend is running out.
On the weekly chart (see below), we also see RSI divergence. The weekly chart also shows resistance at around 18.30, with support at 12.30. This creates an opportunity to short at a favorable risk/reward ratio -- the stop-loss order can be placed just above resistance, with the profit target being support.
Disclosure: No position.
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This article has 27 comments:
On Aug 19 07:14 AM Roger Knights wrote:
> BAC is much more profit-leveraged to the economy than the tech stocks,
> so it's a far better candidate. (Don't overlook WFC, another very
> leveraged bank.)
On fundamentals, BAC is still trading below tangible book value and being a huge multinational bank there are money managers that will have to buy this bank as the economy turns as they are required to match this or that index. Throw in the fact that housing has bottomed and the fees from refinancing mortgages for some real earnings power and you'd be insane to short BAC.
WFC does look weaker though, trading above tangible book value and being USA centric with little overseas exposure. There is also a Buffett halo with WFC for what that might be worth. Maybe you could squeeze a small profit here on the short side.
Really though, shorting banks was last year's trade. This year's trade is to buy and hold the financials tight.
(long BAC)
I agree, on a TBV basis, BAC is not that expensive. (As an aside to the author - TBV multiples are how bank investors look at these animals today - NOT P/E multiples.) But let's think about WHY BAC might be trading at a discount.... could it be CFC and the exposure to CA real estate that it added to the balance sheet? Could it be the toxic waste dump that was MER? Could it be constant rumors of Lewis being pressured to resign? Could it be the other shoe that is looming: commercial real estate?
In any case, while I agree that when looking at a short, you MUST focus on fundamentals, (and WFC is many attributes of a potential short) - I reject your statement that "you'd be insane to short BAC."
That's just a little over the top.
On Aug 19 08:24 AM JosephN wrote:
> Shorting on technicals is like russian roulette. You have to look
> at the fundamentals.
>
> On fundamentals, BAC is still trading below tangible book value and
> being a huge multinational bank there are money managers that will
> have to buy this bank as the economy turns as they are required to
> match this or that index. Throw in the fact that housing has bottomed
> and the fees from refinancing mortgages for some real earnings power
> and you'd be insane to short BAC.
>
> WFC does look weaker though, trading above tangible book value and
> being USA centric with little overseas exposure. There is also a
> Buffett halo with WFC for what that might be worth. Maybe you could
> squeeze a small profit here on the short side.
>
> Really though, shorting banks was last year's trade. This year's
> trade is to buy and hold the financials tight.
>
> (long BAC)
I live in Orange County, CA. Probably one of the 'worst' areas of the housing bubble pop and I'm telling you it is over with here. People are buying or refinancing and the banks exposed to the market here will do very well on fees. I've even heard people are flipping foreclosures after only a few weeks from buying them at auction for 20-30% profits.
If Lewis were to go I suspect there would be a pop up in price rather than a pop down. So I'm not worried there either. Commercial real estate so far has been a red herring for keeping people out of the financials while others (like me) loaded up, but so far so good. Only the closing of the car dealerships really has me worried on that front, as these dealerships often occupy large amounts of prime land in central locations.
In any case, if you think 'insane to short BAC' is a little over the top that certainly is your opinion. Short interest in BAC looks to be around 1%, so maybe we could just agree that it looks like the smart money isn't taking the short side on BAC here.
On Aug 19 10:10 AM District Banker wrote:
> I don't know where to start with your post, Joseph.
>
> I agree, on a TBV basis, BAC is not that expensive. (As an aside
> to the author - TBV multiples are how bank investors look at these
> animals today - NOT P/E multiples.) But let's think about WHY BAC
> might be trading at a discount.... could it be CFC and the exposure
> to CA real estate that it added to the balance sheet? Could it be
> the toxic waste dump that was MER? Could it be constant rumors of
> Lewis being pressured to resign? Could it be the other shoe that
> is looming: commercial real estate?
>
> In any case, while I agree that when looking at a short, you MUST
> focus on fundamentals, (and WFC is many attributes of a potential
> short) - I reject your statement that "you'd be insane to short BAC."
>
>
> That's just a little over the top.
As for your comment on Lewis, I agree that it could actually take some overhang off of the stock - but that's difficult to quantify/measure. Could go either way.
Bear markets never (EVER) go straight down, and banks are renegotiating CRE loans at a furious pace. You keep loading up... I need someone on the other end of my short sells!
On Aug 19 10:34 AM JosephN wrote:
> Actually, its because of BAC's exposure to california real estate
> that I believe it is a buy. Its one reason I think BAC, JPM, and
> WFC have all had nice runs. Exposure to california home real estate
> is now a positive rather than a negative in my opinion.
>
> I live in Orange County, CA. Probably one of the 'worst' areas of
> the housing bubble pop and I'm telling you it is over with here.
> People are buying or refinancing and the banks exposed to the market
> here will do very well on fees. I've even heard people are flipping
> foreclosures after only a few weeks from buying them at auction for
> 20-30% profits.
>
> If Lewis were to go I suspect there would be a pop up in price rather
> than a pop down. So I'm not worried there either. Commercial real
> estate so far has been a red herring for keeping people out of the
> financials while others (like me) loaded up, but so far so good.
> Only the closing of the car dealerships really has me worried on
> that front, as these dealerships often occupy large amounts of prime
> land in central locations.
>
> In any case, if you think 'insane to short BAC' is a little over
> the top that certainly is your opinion. Short interest in BAC looks
> to be around 1%, so maybe we could just agree that it looks like
> the smart money isn't taking the short side on BAC here.
>
> On Aug 19 10:10 AM District Banker wrote:
On Aug 19 11:04 AM District Banker wrote:
> Since when is the "smart money" decided by what the masses do? These
> are the same people that got toasted in 2007 and 2008.
>
> As for your comment on Lewis, I agree that it could actually take
> some overhang off of the stock - but that's difficult to quantify/measure.
> Could go either way.
>
> Bear markets never (seekingalpha.com/symbo...) go straight
> down, and banks are renegotiating CRE loans at a furious pace. You
> keep loading up... I need someone on the other end of my short sells!
>
Personally, this is only a positive if banks are lending thus spreading the benefit of lower borrowing cost to small business that repair the economy. I think there is more evidence to suggest the banks are just giving the money to their hedge funds to speculate in futures markets. But I agree that in the long term a positive slopping yield curve is a plus for equities.
On Aug 19 11:14 AM Nom De Plum wrote:
> Have you seen the yield curve??? You don't short bank stocks when
> the yield curve is this steep.
I thought BofA should have gone bankrupt a generation ago when its stock got almost as low as it did recently.
But then I came to my senses and realized that Americans would never allow Bank of America go bankrupt simply because of its name. Most Americans think Bank of America is an American national treasure even though you and I know it is a very poorly run private cash generating machine for its top executives and should have been allowed to die a natural death with all those other financial institutions. (Whatever happened to SKF?)
After BofA bought another moribund entity, Merrill Lynch, I thought it was certainly finished .... for about five minutes.
Shorting Bank of America is just one more crap shoot.
As this bubble pops (no different then the last 12 month period), this stock and the other financials will be sucking wind and revisit the single digits.
The fundamentals are horrible on these stocks (even with gov't intervention) and the economy is worse then last year at this time.
We never seem to learn from history.
Look at the charts, fundamentals, etc., this is setting up perfectly for another Sept/Oct. disaster and "smoke and mirrors" practiced by these banks will not shield them.
And yes, I shorted COF and WFC (these positions are already paying off) several times in the past 2 weeks.
Since I don't like to rationalize things I will just say it like it is:
BAC, WFC, COF, even GS were bankrupted by the collapse. The government stepped in and saved them. Not only saved them, but have assured everyone that no matter what, they cannot and will no go under.
Anyone who thinks otherwise better wake up or grow up. The banks are not lending, they are hoarding money, and their real businesses are not growing. If it weren't for taxpayer backstopped TARP money used for trading these banks would be gone.
I am not short any of these stocks, nor am I long. I cannot invest in companies that I know are actually controlled and manipulated by others in that way. There are way to many other investments out there.
Short of a complete collapse or loss of faith in our treasury, FED, and our country, sure these stocks might fall and there might be a shorting opportunity somewhere, but I wouldn't own them.
If the banks return to their traditional role as lenders and deposit-holders, their earnings will not have the growth that gets lofty valuations.
I am short WFC (very small position), and admit I know less about this sector than about everyone that posted above. So please have at it.
On Aug 19 11:04 AM District Banker wrote:
> Since when is the "smart money" decided by what the masses do? These
> are the same people that got toasted in 2007 and 2008.
>
> As for your comment on Lewis, I agree that it could actually take
> some overhang off of the stock - but that's difficult to quantify/measure.
> Could go either way.
>
> Bear markets never (seekingalpha.com/symbo...) go straight
> down, and banks are renegotiating CRE loans at a furious pace. You
> keep loading up... I need someone on the other end of my short sells!
>
chargeoffs, delinquency rates.....you took the lazy man's approach.....
My suspicion is that bad as they are they will turn out to be worth more than the market has nominally valued them at.
I agree shorting was yesterday's game, hold is probably sensible, long I think is a gamble, there just isn't the information, and I would be surprised to see any upside justifying that risk.
On Aug 19 08:24 AM JosephN wrote:
> Shorting on technicals is like russian roulette. You have to look
> at the fundamentals.
>
> On fundamentals, BAC is still trading below tangible book value and
> being a huge multinational bank there are money managers that will
> have to buy this bank as the economy turns as they are required to
> match this or that index. Throw in the fact that housing has bottomed
> and the fees from refinancing mortgages for some real earnings power
> and you'd be insane to short BAC.
>
> WFC does look weaker though, trading above tangible book value and
> being USA centric with little overseas exposure. There is also a
> Buffett halo with WFC for what that might be worth. Maybe you could
> squeeze a small profit here on the short side.
>
> Really though, shorting banks was last year's trade. This year's
> trade is to buy and hold the financials tight.
>
> (long BAC)
Please.... bandwagons abound on this thread.
Government sponsorship isn't a business model that INVESTORS will applaud long term. Sure, the top executives, directors, etc. will make out handsomely from the government tit. But that's not exactly strong motivation for rational investors to hold or open new long positions in this stock.
If the Post Office had an IPO tomorrow, would you buy it?
MM
On Aug 19 10:34 AM JosephN wrote:
> I live in Orange County, CA. Probably one of the 'worst' areas of
> the housing bubble pop and I'm telling you it is over with here.
> People are buying or refinancing and the banks exposed to the market
> here will do very well on fees. I've even heard people are flipping
> foreclosures after only a few weeks from buying them at auction for
> 20-30% profits.
Personally,,,I see it as being half full,,,,and the worst is behind us.
On Aug 19 04:01 PM market mojo wrote:
> is John Paulson smart money enough for you? He now owns 2% of BAC.
>
On Aug 20 05:00 PM vvvvviking wrote:
> John Paulson is a one-trick pony. Other than getting one massive
> bet correct, what else has he done?