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If after hours trading is any indication, then we should be heading much higher tomorrow. The bulls are taking over once again driving market prices higher in everything everywhere. All this is due to low interest rates forcing investors on the sidelines to lose their patience and make for better returns in riskier assets. This is the logical outcome of this much liquidity with a lot of manipulation and BS stirred in. It is what it is. That’s all we can say since we’re back in bubble-land once again. The price will be high but that’s all down the road since putting things off seems easier. While officials talk tough, it’s also much easier to inflate.

Zero Hedge glommed on to an interesting Goldman Sachs (GS) document leaked to them. A portion of their summary is as follows:

“What is interesting is that while Goldman makes token concessions about certain aspects of market topology, it is virtually adamant in its “do not touch” stance on precisely those components in which it is becoming a practical monopoly power.” Continue reading….

You have to hand it to Goldman—what you hand them is up to you.

Let’s see what happens and follow our intraday comments on twitter.

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    Is it really an asset bubble or the path of least resistance?
    Oct 08 05:28 AM | Link | Reply
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    its a bubble. people diving in afraid to miss out on rally. 'herd mentality' or 'animal spirits' its called.

    yet the real economy, minus all the stimulus fudging the figures, is really poor
    Oct 08 05:35 AM | Link | Reply
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    Companies showing profits including Alcoa are doing so because they have been slashing and burning not because the businesss climate has improved. As far as the stock market is concerned it does not reflect reality and is being moved be forces with deep pockets with a responsibility to show positive results. I am talking mainly the mutual fund and investment managers.Scott Trade and others exist because of day traders. They make their money when people trade. They encourage this activity. This is a trading market and has always been.The stock market can be considered a legal casino. Don't believe me? Go to the message boards on Yahoo finance and read the supposed buys and sells. Why do business shows like the CNBC and MSNBC exist on a daily basis? It's entertainment. Stocks going up or down a few cents or a percentage or two do so because of big players not necessarily because anything has changed and any percieved changes are usually not significant. The average person should not pay any attention to it.
    Oct 08 06:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    I was thinking that given the run up into earnings we'd see selling into the actual reports. We still might. What we've seen overnight is selling of the US dollar to finance the buying of just about everything else, including US stocks.

    Technically the US dollar could end up at the 70 level, where it was bumping along before the crash. That would tend to fuel lots more gains before its all said and done. But nothing goes straight up or down.

    Man, check out Australia. Low unemployment, commodity supplier to China, rising interest rates, currency and stock market shooting through the roof.

    I remain skeptical overall. But that's me. I miss lots of upside and downside. With the US, Europe, and Japan mired with little or no growth, that, fundamentally, is not supportive of higher prices.
    Oct 08 07:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    David Fry is spot on about investor's reasoning for driving up any or all assets. As the Fed's low interest rates make people take risk the government is there dumping the rest of the stimulus into the matket next year driving the dollar down and inflatyion up. Is it any wonder people are forced out of fixed income investments. Since there is not more production or real demand to drive increased cap-ex or production all we get is asset bubbles and inflation.
    Oct 08 07:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    There are so many factors at work here; but none of them relating to an improving economy. Cheap money, fear of being left behind, dollar weakness, BS talk about improving economic factors and low interest paid on cash are all contributing to this current bubble. Add in bonus driven buying from professionals who know prices are too high but don't want to be left behind in performance tables, and you have a pretty unstoppable rise: yet it's not going forward as fast as it might, which suggests to me that this bubble will burst sooner rather than later.

    And I hope sooner, because the later it happens, the more it will hurt.
    Oct 08 09:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    The sign of "the turn" will first be seen in Treasuries. RIght now they are still selling their auctions strong. When that weakens, the run to equities will experience a brief sprint as the latecomers crowd onto the elevator.

    Christmas present?

    Oh well, I hate these kinds of situations. They give me a rash.
    Oct 08 09:05 AM | Link | Reply
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    I see the same thing in the malls in Westchester County, NY. It is very quiet, a lot of sales on clothing, etc. As the dollar has dropped, stocks have risen- I guess because it helps our companies sell overseas. But in my opinion, with or without a weak dollar, the fundamentals don't support sustained earnings growth. I would say that when the dollar makes a rebound, stocks will correct.
    Oct 08 09:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    You just can't trust this light volume stuff. With decliners and advancers almost even it gets dificult to asses direction. You can say that discretionary spending is forward looking but I would argue it's more like wishfull thinking. Sooner or later this artificial stimulation in developed markets will end and woe be to those with out a seat when the music stops. I'm with tripleblack this stuff is giving me a headache. Good luck all and have a great week end. As usual keep your traveling stops tight and your stash of cash in gold (well maybe, it could be in the bubble machine).
    Oct 08 09:20 AM | Link | Reply
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    A bunch of index ETFs are filling their trading gaps from last year. These gaps represent strong resistance points, but the bulls appear on the verge of overcoming the bears. If the top range of the gap on VTI, for instance, is no longer a convenient place to initiate short positions, you'd might as well go long or get out of the way. Bearish traders will do so until markets close in on their next areas of notable trading resistance. Which is over 10% higher from here in some markets. Oh goody.
    But wait. Under the surface, though, all is not well. David points out, correctly I believe, that there are multiple asset bubbles forming across the capital markets. The issue is not that asset prices have come too far too fast (depending on what time horizon you're talking about, maybe ten years instead of six months, equities have gone nowhere, too slow). The issue that David lays out is twofold. First, governments across the globe have printed money and virtually dumped it for free into the banking system. The money has been plonked into various assets. Second, the risk-free rate of return is still probably negative in real terms. Meaning, when it comes to taking risk, the market has you in a dark room, Lou Cabrazi standing behind your chair, and in a quiet mumble, is now making you an offer you cannot refuse. Why? Because if you are guaranteed to take losses by parking money into risk-free assets (3% interest on a US Treasury, after taxes, is certainly less than the 3% average inflation rate observed over the past 100 years) you will rotate into risky assets. You have no choice.
    Here is the problem with an offer you can't refuse. The price has nothing to do with what a rational buyer, having all knowledge of the facts, would pay in an arm's length transaction. And this gets really interesting when not only are you faced with an offer you can't refuse, and your pockets are brimming with freshly minted cash that doesn't belong to you but you get to spend anyway? What sort of a price might you be willing to pay? And has it anything to do with what a rational investor might pay?
    We might not like it, but the market is going up, and arguing with the market is unwise. I share David's thesis, but it doesn't follow that the time to initiate short positions is upon us. To the contrary, as long as the market surmounts technical resistance in the face of skepticism and disbelief on the part of investors, I'm happy to allocate capital to risky assets. But when the tide turns, the fundamental imbalances in the capital markets are so very profound, I shudder to consider how low markets could drop.
    Oct 08 09:41 AM | Link | Reply
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    Well... Her's a question for everyone on Seeking Alpha...

    Weeks before this earning season kicked-off there were numerous articles about how thing would be "better than expected." Sure enough, report after report is better than expected and the stocks jump.

    Now then... If you are predicting things are going to be better than expected, how can it be "better than expected"? You are already saying that you are expecting a specific level... You are expecting it.... Same with all of these reports...

    The phrase "better than expected" is just the newest Catch 22 in this economic sham run by Ben and Tim.
    Oct 08 09:42 AM | Link | Reply
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    I should have mentioned we returned an item to Best Buy and noticed that the TV we had purchased at the same time a few days earlier had its heavily discounted price slashed another $200 which the store credited us.

    I guess we should go there once a week until the 30 day price guarantee expires.

    We also were looking for office chairs but none of the big box stores carried them any longer--Macy's, J.C. Penny, Sears and so forth. But my wife noticed the incredible amount of merchandise, particularly clothing, that stores maintained. Further, there were very few people manning the cash registers.

    This is view from the Fry's in a large mall in Manchester, NH. Hardly very scientific.
    Oct 08 09:42 AM | Link | Reply
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    Too bad they don't sell one of those markers to detect newley printed Ben and Tim "Funny Money" like they hacve those markers to detect counterfeit money.

    Come to think of it... Perhaps the marker will work on both..


    On Oct 08 09:41 AM Alex Trias wrote:

    > A bunch of index ETFs are filling their trading gaps from last year.
    > These gaps represent strong resistance points, but the bulls appear
    > on the verge of overcoming the bears. If the top range of the gap////////////// SNIP//////////////
    Oct 08 09:46 AM | Link | Reply
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    It might be a good time to start taking a few dollars off the table (I'm 98% invested). Securities have to eventually reflect the value of the underlying business and our congress is making the rules for our businesses to run. And the congress is run by lawyers, who know everything about everything and will therefore make the best decisions for economic growth, right?:-)
    Oct 08 09:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    Baltic Dry Index: 2,546

    Estimated "break even" levels: 3,000 to 6,000

    Still waiting...
    Oct 08 09:52 AM | Link | Reply
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    No position in AA... but it was interesting to listen to the call. Said that inventories were low and stabilizing...

    docs.google.com/View?i...

    Not sure what he was talking about.
    Oct 08 09:59 AM | Link | Reply
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    Black Friday may be noteworthy this year.
    Oct 08 10:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    Yes it may. But there still needs to be a catalyst for that. Some sort of indication that additional liquidity to keep the bubble going will stop being provided. Perhaps we get that from Helicopter Ben's speech tonight
    Oct 08 10:13 AM | Link | Reply
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    David..try Walmart...my office chair was only $80 and is very comfortable and durable.

    thanks for your work...


    On Oct 08 09:42 AM David Fry wrote:

    > I should have mentioned we returned an item to Best Buy and noticed
    > that the TV we had purchased at the same time a few days earlier
    > had its heavily discounted price slashed another $200 which the store
    > credited us.
    >
    > I guess we should go there once a week until the 30 day price guarantee
    > expires.
    >
    > We also were looking for office chairs but none of the big box stores
    > carried them any longer--Macy's, J.C. Penny, Sears and so forth.
    > But my wife noticed the incredible amount of merchandise, particularly
    > clothing, that stores maintained. Further, there were very few people
    > manning the cash registers.
    >
    > This is view from the Fry's in a large mall in Manchester, NH. Hardly
    > very scientific.
    Oct 08 10:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    Gee, Fat Cat, we got chairs finally at Staples for a lot more. You available for ongoing shopping consultancy?
    Oct 08 10:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    How do you think he got to be a fatcat ?


    On Oct 08 10:37 AM David Fry wrote:

    > Gee, Fat Cat, we got chairs finally at Staples for a lot more. You
    > available for ongoing shopping consultancy?
    Oct 08 10:46 AM | Link | Reply
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    Is it time to short commercial RE via SRS yet?
    Oct 08 11:10 AM | Link | Reply
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    elee: I'm watching IYR for the indication combined with the related index. SRS is one of the Dirty Dozen in the new Dave's Special Portfolio.
    Oct 08 11:15 AM | Link | Reply
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    The market is going to be coming back in spades...as long as their is gasoline supplies, we can create it all. Fundamentally energy is what its all about...low cost enought everything else follows. When prices at the pump tighten watch out.
    Oct 08 11:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    from the beginning of your article: "There’s too much unproductive money sloshing about trading desks—meaning bank beneficiaries are trading and not lending."

    Well stated. I hadn't given that much thought.
    Oct 08 11:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    My "community" banker friends are enjoying the steep yield curve paying zero for funds and buying Treasurys and mortgaged backed qualified securities. They're not lending since they're buried in crap. The FDIC is on their case so they're frozen in making loans since they're trying to work out of poor loans.

    Remember, this is not a GS or other operation. These are the little guys that serve small business in their communities who aren't doing so today.
    Oct 08 12:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    Absolutely. And while the small business guys are digging under their car seats looking for operating capital, big tax increases and federal insurance mandates are bearing down on them like the wrath of odin...


    On Oct 08 12:31 PM David Fry wrote:

    > My "community" banker friends are enjoying the steep yield curve
    > paying zero for funds and buying Treasurys and mortgaged backed qualified
    > securities. They're not lending since they're buried in crap. The
    > FDIC is on their case so they're frozen in making loans since they're
    > trying to work out of poor loans.
    >
    > Remember, this is not a GS or other operation. These are the little
    > guys that serve small business in their communities who aren't doing
    > so today.
    Oct 08 01:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks for your very kind reply to my query about SRS. Sounds like I'd be interested in the new special portfolio, tell me more!
    Oct 08 02:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    & FWIW....I'm using REM as you use IYR.....all told REM performed surprisingly well during the last year's downturns, and the dividends have been good too....
    Oct 08 02:53 PM | Link | Reply
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    the fryguy can't cover 'em all.
    Oct 08 04:03 PM | Link | Reply
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    I sold my GLD and SLV calls from my trading account near the close. These are very short term trades and the whole "dollar down and everything else up" trade feels like its going to reverse briefly. Many of the currency ETFs are overbought, the dollar is oversold, and many stocks and indexes need a rest.

    However, Hong Kong (EWH) and China (FXI) have been consolidating the past few months and I'm thinking it may be their turn to run. So I'm in. Also read about some unusual call activity in EWA. Got me to check the charts.

    Remain long core positions in GLD and SLV. No positions in US stocks.
    Oct 08 04:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am currently traveling in one of the "emerging markets" regions. I gotta tell ya, there is construction everywhere but many of which is unfinished. The interesting thing is that even though they are trying to sell, they are not slashing prices like we do. I guess they paid all cash.
    every time I go to carrefour, which is a giant chain in EMEA I have to wait in long lines, shopping carts are stacked, the buying is relentless.

    I am long SRS options, which I am loosing crap load on, today I picked up CEE.TO to play the gold breakout and the collapsing dollar. I am scared that whatever little savings I have will be wiped with vicious inflation. I am sitting in 95% cash with the cash being distributed 70% USD and 30% euro.
    David,
    Do you think it is time to go long DBC , DBA and MOO?
    of all asset classes, food seem to be the cheapest.
    Oct 08 04:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    I have to jump in here with the shopping. My daughter bought high end designer bedding on clearance at Macy's. Cost: about $150. On the receipt, it says her savings were $1200. Uh oh.
    Oct 08 05:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    Retail is sucking fumes...:

    > I have to jump in here with the shopping. My daughter bought high
    > end designer bedding on clearance at Macy's. Cost: about $150.
    > On the receipt, it says her savings were $1200. Uh oh.
    Oct 08 07:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    As soon as I read the rhetorical quesiton on slide 7:

    "Has the Evolution of this Market Structure Brought Benefits to the Investing Community?"

    And then read the following header on slide 8:

    "As a Result of this Instensely Competetive Market Structure, The Retail Trading Community is More Empowered than Ever Before"

    I knew this was a steaming crock of G.S. - B.S.

    Of course, they were presenting this to the S.E.C.; kind of like Vito buying doughnuts and coffee for the Cops he has on in his pocket and telling them which drug dealers and ho's need to be left alone.
    Oct 09 03:29 PM | Link | Reply
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    It's called liquidity idiot. It's the same reason why you go to sell your X number of shares of your stock the spread between the bid/ask is usually in the pennies, and there is almost always someone willing to buy on the otherside.

    Dividends alone proves that it is not gambling. Also, unless you're company goes bankrupt and as long as you don't need the money immediately, you can wait to get your money back as your company recovers since you only have paper losses.

    Maybe you are not that good of an investor, don't invest at all or just bad at timing your investments, either way, you are wrong about the market being as casino.

    Socialists like M. Moore may try and get you to believe this, but guess what, in the end capitalism works, so profit with it by being in the market. You say AA is good example. Well let's look at AA, and I'm not a huge fan of AA, but I will discuss since you mentioned it. AA is still way down from just a couple of years ago. Yes, if revenues do not improve this time next year, I would agree with you, but right now, we are setting up to grow off of a low base.

    Have fun keeping your money under the mattress at 0%.

    On Oct 08 06:03 AM MJJP wrote:

    > Companies showing profits including Alcoa are doing so because they
    > have been slashing and burning not because the businesss climate
    > has improved. As far as the stock market is concerned it does not
    > reflect reality and is being moved be forces with deep pockets with
    > a responsibility to show positive results. I am talking mainly the
    > mutual fund and investment managers.Scott Trade and others exist
    > because of day traders. They make their money when people trade.
    > They encourage this activity. This is a trading market and has always
    > been.The stock market can be considered a legal casino. Don't believe
    > me? Go to the message boards on Yahoo finance and read the supposed
    > buys and sells. Why do business shows like the CNBC and MSNBC exist
    > on a daily basis? It's entertainment. Stocks going up or down a few
    > cents or a percentage or two do so because of big players not necessarily
    > because anything has changed and any percieved changes are usually
    > not significant. The average person should not pay any attention
    > to it.
    Oct 09 05:19 PM | Link | Reply