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All of this information about a housing recovery is just plain false. The biggest perpetrator of the housing recovery myth is CNBC and they actually ran this story Friday, showing it is the lower priced homes moving, all other homes are just not moving, period.
There is simply no recovery in housing at this time and if this chart tells us anything, it is that the market will, at best, be flat for some time to come. However, I am of the mind, as indicated in numerous other pieces I have written, that we still have a long way to go on the downside before things begin to level out. This means that banks, 81 YTD, are going to continue closing because they are losing money on these mortgages as people just walk away from homes that they cannot sell and are underwater in.
A full one third of all sales in July were of foreclosed properties, and as more foreclosures hit the market, you can only expect more downward pressure on prices. Foreclosures are only increasing, as we saw from Thursday’s Mortgage Bankers Association report, and that will mean more inventory.
I think that is proof enough that things are just not that good. I may have missed out on a couple of percentage points over the past week, but the market is going to come crashing down in the near future. Why, because all of the data supporting a bull run is over hyped and inaccurate at best. Housing is one of the data points supporting the bull’s case, but look at the data point and tell me that there is a recovery taking place.
Take a look:
U.S. Existing Home Sales Yr/Yr |
| $0 – $100,000 | Up 38.8% |
| 100,000 – $250,000 | Up 8.7% |
| $250,000 – $500,000 | Down 6.2% |
| $500,000 – $750,000 | Down 8.9% |
| $750,000 – $1,000,000 | Down 10.6% |
| $1,000,000 – $2,000,000 | Down 23.3% |
| $2,000,000 + | Down 32.4% |
Source: National Association of Realtors |
As I have said numerous times before, burying and hiding problems through bogus accounting will only make the problem worse long-term. Enron tried it, MCI tried it, now we have the banks trying it through lax mark-to-market regulations. The FASB enacted the mark-to-market because it made sense, if you had to sell a security today you cannot just wait for a nonexistent price to come along, which is what the new regulations let banks do for accounting purposes.
One last point about this, ever since mark-to-market went away bank earnings have all been good. Do you see the problem? Frankly, real estate is still their biggest problem and the above information supports that theory.
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By contrast, after the collapse of the 1980's housing bubble, houses were selling for less than their construction cost, implying a negative value for the lot.
We may not see negative values for land this time, given ZIRP/QE, but I expect prices for the high-end still have a long way to fall, at least until land is worth no more than half the construction costs. This drop is likely to be slow and protracted, and thus will nag at bank balance sheets for many years to come.
Learn the lesson and make sure new loans are good ones.
On Aug 23 08:31 AM j-dub wrote:
> Ya gotta love the schills on tv!!!
> Every month is a bottom and every sputter is a ROAR
>
> You wanna see a housing recovery, do ya?
>
> Consume some magic mushrooms, wait an hour and start looking at some
> housing charts. I mean, REALLY LOOK AT THEM DEEPLY..................
>
>
> and......................
>
> Bingo!!!!
> THERE'S YOUR RECOVERY
As an analyst, I am trying to track thru existing sales the same way one can analyze new home sales.
Thanks
As the aggregate value of houses decline and debt service burdens increase, millions more households will see their home equity shrivel to almost nothing or go to zero.
The social, political and financial consequences of such a mass evaporation in home equity so quickly have yet to be manifested, particularly for people over 65, who have also seen their retirement stock portfolios shrink by 35 to 40 % . In fact, the stock based retirement accounts of a majority of middle class American households are now worth substantially less than 10 years ago despite a decade of dividend reinvestment and capital contributions.
Nothing good can come of scores of millions of households suddenly finding they have negliible or no net worth even as the political and media bosses tout a non-existent real estate "recovery".
2. Rental property that caters to the lower -middle class may do well in the right zip codes(if bought at the proper price, of course: perhaps 10 to 12 times gross annual rent)as millions of middle class households become renters(having lost their homes) until they can rebuild their cash positions and savings so they can again become homeowners (in 3 to 10 years) or as downward mobility forces more middle- middle class households into the lower middle class ranks: not destitute enough to qualify for housing assistance but too cash/credit poor to quailfy for a home loan.
They solved this problem by leaving people in their homes if they agreed to protect and maintain them. An inspector would come around every three or four months to check. As WWII started in Europe and jobs materialized, everyone restarted their payments again. It was a win / win situation.
On Aug 23 10:25 AM Summer Sea wrote:
> Wouldn't it make more sense to allow people owning homes in the $750
> + range to stay in the homes? The banks are going to "eat" a big
> loss anyway after forclosure or a short sale; so why not reduce all
> these principles bringing them in line with the market and move on.
>
> Learn the lesson and make sure new loans are good ones.
On Aug 23 10:25 AM Summer Sea wrote:
> Wouldn't it make more sense to allow people owning homes in the $750
> + range to stay in the homes? The banks are going to "eat" a big
> loss anyway after forclosure or a short sale; so why not reduce all
> these principles bringing them in line with the market and move on.
>
> Learn the lesson and make sure new loans are good ones.
No turd will be left unturned to find a green shoot underneath.
I have seen new homes sell for $225,000 this year, that have had Seller paid Concessions that were the key to the transaction, in the amounts of $10,000 in Buy Down Interest Rate costs, $10,000 in Seller Paid Closing costs and $10,000 in Upgrades given to the Buyer by the Seller; for a Net or Cash Equivalent Price of $195,000.
Only the $225,000 gets reported into the statistics. The reality, in terms of Market Value as defined by USPAP, FIRREA, HUD or FNMA; is closer to $195,000 if not lower.
NAR will always publish anything that helps their members sell more homes, helps bring buyers back to the market. None of their members who sell homes for a living ever have to deal with the issue of Market Value, only Sales Price. And to them, it does not matter what is packed into the Sales Prices, which are propped up by the Stilts of Concessions.
You touched on the phenomenon of voluntary defaults. People walking away from houses not because they can't afford them but because they don't like their negative equity position. I don't know what portion of home foreclosures are voluntary and what are involuntary, but I do know that it's a significant proportion. That skews the numbers so as not to reflect (to some degree) the true economic realities. Putting more foreclosures on the market and driving prices artificially lower.
I agree that real estate has not stopped deflating. But, my guess is that it has the potential to "break-out" once it turns.
It's simple demographics. Echo Boomers have kids going off to college (2nd spouses). During the next few years, the trend towards downsizing the home will only grow. Sellers will want to liquidate their primary asset (home ownership still represents on of the primary sources of American wealth) to purchase low risk, income producing assets to shift into retirement.
Buyers on the other hand, are few and far between. Outside of the growing group of illegal immigrants, there is a much smaller group of younger people in the housing market. Demographics also make this group less likely to purchase. Younger people are loaded with debt, both from college loans (at new higher non-government rates) and from consumer credit. In an environment of tightened underwriting, very few young people have the down payment banks require.
Second, and more important, this group of young people are getting married at much lower rates. Those that do marry are having fewer children at a later age, if they have children at all. The primary market for homes consists of 3-4 bedroom homes, designed for two parent/two child families. Higher divorce rates also have create more 1-3 person households.
This means an eager group of asset-rich, income-poor sellers trying to move larger houses to a much smaller group of buyers, who are indebted, single/divorced, childless or willing to wait to purchase.
In theory, if market confidence returns, housing prices will stabilize and more people will start buying houses again. With the increased demand, the hope is that prices will again start climbing so that banks can get better prices for their homes.
Add to this, a report by (I forgot the organization name) an organization that tracks mortgages, delinquencies and foreclosure. The report predicted that, based upon the trends in delinquencies, we will have another 13 million foreclosure over the next five years. At the time of the report, we had experienced only 1.5 million foreclosures since the beginning of the recession. This would indicate, once again, that we can expect increased numbers of foreclosures coming to the market going forward and inventory (unless it is managed by the banks) will begin to increase again and stay high for years.
I don't think that the banks can afford to keep putting off foreclosures or hold foreclosed inventory off the market in numbers great enough to stabilize prices. I am not a perennial pessimist trying to talk down prices. I currently hold over 100 investment properties, so I would like to see prices rise. I just don't see it happening any time soon.
How does an increasing unemployment rate and a housing recovery coexist ?
On Aug 23 12:10 PM Richard Wakefield wrote:
> Can you tell me where in the Natl Board of Realtors did you find
> sale prices by various price category? I cannot come up with that
> data. I believe, as you do, there is no real housing recovery.<br/>
>
> As an analyst, I am trying to track thru existing sales the same
> way one can analyze new home sales.
>
> Thanks
>
On Aug 23 10:25 AM Summer Sea wrote:
> Wouldn't it make more sense to allow people owning homes in the $750
> + range to stay in the homes? The banks are going to "eat" a big
> loss anyway after forclosure or a short sale; so why not reduce all
> these principles bringing them in line with the market and move on.
>
> Learn the lesson and make sure new loans are good ones.
Any idea what formula NAR uses for seasonal adjustments? Appreciate if you can point me to the source. Thank you
On Aug 23 01:09 PM manya05 wrote:
> As someone much smarter than me said: there are lies, there are damn
> lies, and then there are statistics. Watch how the statistics are
> reported, now they are trumpeting monthly increases (July is up form
> June!). This of course happens on a seasonal basis. Once we go late
> in the Summer/Fall and the seasonal numbers start decreasing month-over-month,
> they will start reporting year-over-year (as long as they are positive).
>
>
> No turd will be left unturned to find a green shoot underneath.
Currently, the median sales price is much lower than the median value of the homes in many of these markets for the simple reason that higher priced homes (>300k) aren't selling.
So we may both be right when we say that median sales volumes are increasing or decreasing. Although it is pretty clear that above a certain dollar amount (250k) the sales volume decreases.
On Aug 23 01:41 PM sod wrote:
> As a natural Bear, I'm inclined to skepticism whenever government
> puts out optimistic figures. While the housing bull market may be
> over, the data supplied by the author does not indicate a crashing
> housing market in the median priced homes. The fact is, at the lower
> end to, 0 to 100,000 and then to the average range, of 100,00 to
> 250,000, these home sales shows a positive of 47.5%. What we need
> to know is what percentage the sales make up the total housing sales.
> I would guess the majority, by far.