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Professor Shiller himself (with the ideas of supply and demand conspicuously absent from his analysis) said in June that housing price declines "may well continue for some time." Housing price data released Tuesday seem to further contradict his prediction.
When he said that, he had six months more data than I did in December when I said (based on supply and demand) that housing would turn around "summer 2009."
The chart below shows his index as a ratio to construction prices, together with the volume of construction activity (I am not sure about the most recent month's breakdown between tenant and owner occupied ... still working on that). I'll let you decide whether (as of June), the housing market was still in free fall.
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This next chart shows the OFHEO housing price index through June: it showed a turn-around even earlier than Case-Shiller did and continues to confirm that view.
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This next chart is from Sean MacLeod. (Thank you sir! He sent it before the June OFHEO was released). It compares 4 different indices. When I turn back to revising my paper about housing prices and construction, I will learn about the RPX index, but for now all I know is that Sean MacLeod makes a good case that it should be considered.
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Finally, the BEA has a quarterly index of the price of new "residential structures" (that is, housing!). The chart below shows that index together with quarterly averages of C-S and OFHEO through 2009 Q2.
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"The chart below shows his index as a ratio to construction prices, together with the volume of construction activity (I am not sure about the most recent month's breakdown between tenant and owner occupied ... still working on that). I'll let you decide whether (as of June), the housing market was still in free fall."
A vacation on Martha's Vinyard is just what you need.
Does anyne stop to look at the charts of all the Alt A resets, the HELOC, the secon lien? We are only a few months in so far. There are deliiquncies skyrocketing in every area inlcuding Prime mortgages.
Realtytrac has stated that there are descrepancies between there forecoures numbers and what are on the market for sale in the 100,000 of thousands.
We are set to have forecloures until 2011/2012 peaking sometime in 2010.
We are in a depression, pure and simple.
At least to the house prices and stocks.
Lets enjoy while the stimulus last.
Now, wages, salaries, and total jobs are declining. People can afford less. The Fed is holding down rates artificially so that housing prices won't come down. People with less money cannot afford to buy expensive houses -- unless the banks want to make bad loans again.
Isn't this clear to people who are calling a housing bottom.
Denial: the first stage of the Death process. And we are still in denial.
Ok, we've been through the correction. Sorry. More correction to come.
On Aug 25 08:39 PM Lawrence G McDonald wrote:
> The one serious issue I cannot ignore is this. American debt is out
> of control, which is why prime mortgage foreclosures are rising.
> This housing market has not bottomed. But it will in the New Year.
> The first step is the jobs. With 10% unemployment, housing cannot
> improve.
Come to think of it, it might be an interesting historical study to compare rates of obesity with periods of expansion of debt.
On Aug 26 03:19 AM manya05 wrote:
> You can keep looking at numbers and statistics, or you can look at
> reality. Reality indicates that we are in the middle of a massive
> generational change, in which baby boomers will retire en masse and
> pass the torch to a smaller and more heavily taxed generation. The
> process will unfold over many years, not just one summer or one year.
> This process calls for a lot of downsizing. There is going to be
> a monumental glut of suburban McMansions for decades to come, and
> a great need for smaller homes closer to town and with better access
> to public transportation. We will see a lot of changes in the real
> estate market, I think for the better.
Historical (pre-bubble) housing price gains averaged about 2.5% per year. If this is assumed for my sister-in-law's house, her $71,000 house bought in 1978 should be worth approximately $107,000 now. Portland housing has lost about 17%. If this is applied to my sister-in-law's house, instead of $700,000, it is now worth about $574,000. This is some $400,000 over the normal historical returns we would assume, had we not been Greenspanned by the housing bubble. If we assume that housing prices needed to return to historical norms for this bubble to be overcome, my sister-in-law's house would still need to shed 73% of its current value.
I guess I don't see how my sister-in-law's house has reached a bottom, especially considering that wages and salaries are on a descending arc.
I don't think I'd trust the cheerleaders until real sanity came back into our markets and into the words of our political leaders.
The 2009 purchase price of these resold homes is 42.12% of the prior selling price.
For condos (also very restricted), resales were for 35% of the prior sale at the peak.
On Aug 26 02:32 AM Phaneendar Bhavaraju wrote:
> Rising unemployement, falling consumption, imminent corporate and
> consumer credit defaults.....will housing recover???
Ya, you can buy a once $250,000 house for 100K or less thanks to the Banks REO repricing and rent it out for 800-1000/ mo.
To a investor with hard cash, "a hellva deal" BUT the next round of foreclosures, the 700k (Alt-A's) how will they sell??
Will investors buy a once 700K house for $350K and rent it out for $800.mo?
Don't think so! And the Rental Market right now is under "A LOT" of pressure. We're running out of people with monthly incomes who can only afford to pay what their part time job (or unemployment ) allows!
Has anyone bothered to check the NOD's filed in the last few months ? RealtyTrac says 600,000 homes are being held off the market by banks, in order to not do more pricing damage.
Good luck sustaining this slight uptick with a glut of foreclosures on the way and high unemployment.
But perhaps we really have created a new paradigm...one that is able to overcome high unemployment and all known aspects of the economic law of supply and demand.
On Aug 26 11:34 AM Mr. Ed, Jr. wrote:
> So, a summer (home-buying season) rally, coinciding with slightly
> increased demand due to the November expiration of the $8k tax credit
> is suddenly a housing turnaround ?
>
> Has anyone bothered to check the NOD's filed in the last few months
> ? RealtyTrac says 600,000 homes are being held off the market by
> banks, in order to not do more pricing damage.
>
> Good luck sustaining this slight uptick with a glut of foreclosures
> on the way and high unemployment.
>
> But perhaps we really have created a new paradigm...one that is able
> to overcome high unemployment and all known aspects of the economic
> law of supply and demand.
Unemployment does not matter. Mortgage availability is immaterial. 4% Foreclosures? 10% Delinquencies? Who cares! The fix is in, and charts don't lie (so long as you refrain from reading them).