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A report by David Cho in Friday's Washington Post tells of the great advances now being made in restoring the banking sector and financial markets to their pre-2008 glory.

Banks 'Too Big to Fail' Have Grown Even Bigger
When the credit crisis struck last year, federal regulators pumped tens of billions of dollars into the nation's leading financial institutions because the banks were so big that officials feared their failure would ruin the entire financial system.

Today, the biggest of those banks are even bigger.

The crisis may be turning out very well for many of the behemoths that dominate U.S. finance. A series of federally arranged mergers safely landed troubled banks on the decks of more stable firms. And it allowed the survivors to emerge from the turmoil with strengthened market positions, giving them even greater control over consumer lending and more potential to profit.

J.P. Morgan Chase, an amalgam of some of Wall Street's most storied institutions, now holds more than $1 of every $10 on deposit in this country. So does Bank of America, scarred by its acquisition of Merrill Lynch and partly government-owned as a result of the crisis, as does Wells Fargo, the biggest West Coast bank. Those three banks, plus government-rescued and -owned Citigroup, now issue one of every two mortgages and about two of every three credit cards, federal data show.

Now that's a sweet deal - boost your market share in originating what are essentially "no-risk" loans because, either wards of the state Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) will buy the loans or you'll get bailed out if things again go awry.



If you're a big bank, what's not to like about that?

It seems that the lines between the U.S. Government, the Federal Reserve, and the nation's largest banks are becoming even more irreparably blurred.

A year after the near-collapse of the financial system last September, the federal response has redefined how Americans get mortgages, student loans and other kinds of credit and has made a national spectacle of executive pay. But no consequence of the crisis alarms top regulators more than having banks that were already too big to fail grow even larger and more interconnected.

"It is at the top of the list of things that need to be fixed," said Sheila C. Bair, chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. "It fed the crisis, and it has gotten worse because of the crisis."

Regulators' concerns are twofold: that consumers will wind up with fewer choices for services and that big banks will assume they always have the government's backing if things go wrong. That presumed guarantee means large companies could return to the risky behavior that led to the crisis if they figure federal officials will clean up their mess.

This problem, known as "moral hazard," is partly why government officials are keeping a tight rein on bailed-out banks -- monitoring executive pay, reviewing sales of major divisions -- and it is driving the Obama administration's efforts to create a new regulatory system to prevent another crisis. That plan would impose higher capital standards on large institutions and empower the government to take over a wide range of troubled financial firms to wind down their businesses in an orderly way.

"The dominant public policy imperative motivating reform is to address the moral hazard risk created by what we did, what we had to do in the crisis to save the economy," Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner said in an interview.

The worry for consumers is that the bailouts skewed the financial industry in favor of the big and powerful. Fresh data from the FDIC show that big banks have the ability to borrow more cheaply than their peers because creditors assume these large companies are not at risk of failing. That imbalance could eventually squeeze out smaller competitors. Already, consumers are seeing fewer choices and higher prices for financial services, some senior government officials warn.

It's all good - if you're a big bank.

The Federal Government has even been so kind as to waive the long-standing anti-trust laws that prohibited JPMorgan (JPM), Bank of America (BAC), and Wells Fargo (WFC) from each holding more than 10 percent of the nation's deposits.

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    2 big 2 fail needs to be replaced with 2 big 2 not be chopped up into smaller pieces capable of better management.
    > jack
    Aug 30 10:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    >>" Now lets reduce their leverage to 10 to 1" >>

    There are problems with trying to "regulate" these megabanks. First, they have multiple sets of books. What's hidden in their level 2 and 3 portfolios is a mystery to all but themselves. They can value it as they wish or even make up a number. First priority of regulatory reform should be to put ALL assets and ALL liabilities on the books. No exceptions.

    Then there is the problem of size. A company the size of Citi, for example, is functionally inauditable. Heck, a little Madoff scheme eluded the regulators. If there's a forensic accountant out there reading this, I'd like an estimate of what it would take to do a forensic audit of a company the size of Citi. When I was an accounting supervisor with one of the world's biggest companies, my superiors put entries wherever they wanted them to be. They moved stuff around on the balance sheet at will.

    Companies this big cannot be regulated. They can hide anything they want in their massive balance sheets.
    Aug 30 10:06 AM | Link | Reply
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    a pretty shallow report - just good enough to play to populist galleries
    there a re simply too many people writing gratuitous stuff
    a more vigorous selection of quality would be much welcome
    RS,London UK
    Aug 30 10:22 AM | Link | Reply
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    ralph schauss makes a valid point.

    I would add that to the extent this site (SA) has become the Hyde Park of unbridled populist poppycock, it is equally diminished as an exchange of investment ideas and discussion.
    Aug 30 10:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    It's funny, that after many 'depression era' regulations were repealed or revised such as Glass-Steagall that our country's banking system was brought to its knees because of greed and negligence on the part of bankers. I say let's re-regulate as someone has to save our financial system from its own stupidity.


    On Aug 30 09:40 AM Ferdinand E. Banks wrote:

    > Sounds good to me. An attack on the finance market by half-baked
    > regulators, politicians and academics is asking for trouble.
    Aug 30 11:07 AM | Link | Reply
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    Too big to fail equates to too big to exist. These juggernauts need to be broken down into smaller, more useful vehicles before they crush us all. Restore Glass-Steagle, and make banks be banks, brokerages be brokerages, and commercial lenders be commercial lenders. When all of these things are placed under one roof, there is too much opportunity for numbers to be juggled, trash to be swept into dark corners, and outright fraud to be committed.
    Aug 30 11:09 AM | Link | Reply
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    It is a vastly different world than it was under Glass-Steagle. The world is now inter-connected, and our banking system must compete with huge banks around the world. If we have only small and regional banks, we will be a weaker and less competitive country in a 21st century that includes new challenges to our status and influence in a changing world.

    Thus although changes are required, I don't think breaking up our banks is the best answer. Seems to me there are both new (and reinstated past) regulations that would negate commission of those errors that lead to the financial crisis.
    Aug 30 11:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    Interesting collection of comments. Everything from -- get government off my back to, -- put the biggest bandit banks out of business. The reality is that government,for better or worse, is here to stay and the question should be -- how can we get them to regulate in ways that are best for all of us in our economy, and not just those who bribe them with "campaign contributions". As some have noted, changing / loosening the regulations that resulted from the Depression enabled the big banks to get beyond regulation and be "too big to fail". Some of you should have noticed that the people running the Treasury, SEC, FDIC, etc are all "insiders" who probably look forward to their next job at CITI or BA.

    In our political system where the US supreme court said that "free political speech" can be how much you can pay lobbyists who, in turn, pay politicians, there is little hope that the big banks will be reigned in. I can't think or any politicians who want to give up campaign money. I can recall any bureaucrat who pledged never to work for a big bank.

    I will probably buy shares of investment banks simply because I cant think of a way they can loose the game.
    Aug 30 12:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    IF THE MARKET PLACE WERE ALLOWED TO FUNCTION THESE BANKS WOULD BE TEENY. This is the problem, obviuosly, of bailouts. EVERYONE BELIEVES IN THE FREE MARKET UNTIL IT'S THEIR ASS ON THE LINE. The government COULD have said no to these institutions and, indeed, in the case of JP Morgan, THEY DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO BE THERE. The revelation? THE GOVERNMENT COULD CARE LESS ABOUT FREE MARKETS. Uncle Sam has declared JP Morgan the equivalent of the Pentagon in fighingt the war on terror. AND THESE ARE DEMOCRATS DOING IT. Now of course we should all be speculating AGAINST the government in here. Why not? We have "Stimulus 2" coming. Time to game the system for "Bailout 2," no? Point being the belief in free markets "getting the job done" isn't said because it's ideal let alone a belief. It's said because NOBODY CARES IF THIS THING WORKS BUT THE FREE MARKET! The best part is that THE GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO BE INVESTED IN ITS OWN FAILURE!!!! To paraphrase the mafia, "keep your polticians close, but your guns closer."
    Aug 30 12:20 PM | Link | Reply
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    I still wonder how much 'campaign contributions' had to do with allowing banks to become too big to fail? Lie detector tests would be great.
    Aug 30 02:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    Well, obviously the thing needed most is transparency at all levels; will we get it? Of course not.

    I think the one thing that most people miss is that the only thing people are useful for is maintaining the power structure through their labors. Serf and Lord. Read George Orwells stuff or Ayn Rand, or, hell, read history.

    Government is power and power is money. Thus, we learn that control of the money is essential to governance and so we shall always have the incestuous relationship between big government and the banks. So, if any of you are deluding yourself that new sweeping regulation will dismantle big banks for smaller ones are living in a delusional world.

    Aug 30 03:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    maybe too big to fail but not too big to short (or hedge):
    see below for list of recent research comments by an analyst who has been quite accurate with his investment researched conclusions

    seekingalpha.com/autho...

    I still have a small oddlot position of JPM from a recent deferred comp distribution (I retired from Bear Stearns) and have no relationship with Reggie Middleton but have seen his research on the internet and find it to be value added and informative.
    Aug 30 04:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am confused.

    Why does "Too Big To Fail" seem to mean "Too Big for Share/Bond Holders to Lose Their Investments"? If we, the taxpayers, are acting as debtors in possession, why don't we simply take possession, fire the management, hire new management to reorganize our business, then do an IPO?
    Aug 30 05:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    It seems to me that most of the commentary is all running around in a big circle.

    Regulate the banks, BUT enforce the regulations otherwise it is all a joke. AND the Joke is on US.
    Aug 30 06:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    On a fundamental basis, the big banks are broke. However, the "gubamint" will continue to prop 'em up with the largest transfer of wealth in the banana republic's history.

    Not only have the accounting rules been removed that would required the big banks to report massive losses on their "toxic" securities, now the rules are about to change to permit the financial thieves from not having to report embedded losses on their toxic commercial real estate losses.

    One of these days, the game will end and it won't be pretty.
    Aug 30 07:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    First, I hate to repeat Paulson, but......
    "The American Taxpayers are already on the Hook.".
    That's how the money system works.
    United States Dollars.
    They come from United States Taxpayers.
    Irregardless.

    It's time we address the inherent instability of the fractional-reserve debt-money system. Banks MUST get bigger because banks create ALL of the nation's money as debts that must be paid back with interest. In order to have all that interest money, new money must be created, as new debts.
    Which is the job of the banks.
    "Grow we must" is more than a saying - it is a mathematical imperative.

    We need a new money system, created as equity by the government.
    The Money System Common.
    Aug 30 08:47 PM | Link | Reply
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    Its easy to see what the govt. is doing. Many banks mean the govt. cant control them. If only a few banks are left then govt. control can be total. In socialist countries (USSR, pre war Germany and now Canada) were and now are govt. controlled. Kiss capitalism goodby.
    Aug 31 06:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    I have only one question for those of you who insist that the larger organizations should be broken up: What should the "correct" size of a financial institution be?

    As a secondary question: What is this likelihood that you can fine enough people to agree with any measure?
    Aug 31 09:38 AM | Link | Reply
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    I have a new title for this article---"Buying Opportunity of a Lifetime"

    If the regulators did their jobs it wouldnt matter how large each institution was, they would never face bankruptcy! Instead of firing the Firms Mngmt, re-elect new congress, senate and fire these corrupted regulators!!
    Aug 31 12:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    This was an informative article, and frankly, the comments were mostly excellent, too, except for the one that decried potential "over-regulation" by government and academics, among others, both currently and potentially into the future. I learned a lot, especially textually; thanks. Over the last nominal market supply side cycle, a reasonable reboot toward new real chapters, bank, dievestment [sic], or otherwise, though a good utility tool, with highly emphasized spread sheets and balance sheets, arguably toward better capital expedition efficiency, particularly relative to the prior cycle, became far too omnipresent. "BANK" had, and has (with TARP and TARF fund liabilities), become something of a 4 letter word at this point in economic evolutionary cycle; bank-captain became an onerous front-end tax, pushing citizen-crew over-consumption (high merit in advanced micro-logic products, largely developed successfully purveyed during the higher real earnings 1990s, proper tact thereafter was toward macro-application, though perhaps TNX liabilities prevented that), with payment therefor via grotesquely higher nominal market equity price levels in real estate, business, education, health care, and finally energy commodities, relative to real economy earnings. Those on the inside, principally bank, then agenct and affect, promoted this vigorish shamelessly (some, incredibly, still do), at the expense of the overall jurisdiction, and many of its citizens, particularly those compelled, and those serving currently overseas. Imagine asset distension and bloat, only minimally mitigated, with somewhat contemporaneous, then following commodities hyper-inflation; that bubble popped in 7/2008. The market market price break followed in early Fall; both were evident a priori, long put. Obvious instruments, such as TNX, in overseas jurisdictions with our debt, had been way over- amped. BTW, in my opinion, society beats market (regardless of overseas current bank surplus), and even economy; USA has that and it is not dying. Ask the fine in-zone USA DoD personnel overseas; we, stateside, and the world overseas, have these personnel to thank and honor for maintaining stability, safety, and security in an arena as real as it gets with equity-earnings divergence geopolitical event risk manifestation. Their service enables renewed growth and progress in an obvious society and real economy over nominal market cycle at this point in time. No other country has citizens as soldiers, sailors, and marines, soon to be veterans, as fine as these personnel. For those in high, nominal financial staff positions, DO NOT over-leverage on this line fulcrum. Human resource base is certainly the most precious of all, and once gone, either through aged-out attrition or worse, the very nucleonic seed of society disappears with it. Corporation as context is a better economic policy model than bank as text; put the horse before the cart. Real profit is a reasonable incentive toward real production (not nominal vigorish or spread), otherwise, who would bother investing? Furthermore, real capital build is imperative, otherwise there is no initial mass seed from which to grow existential progress. Nevertheless, out-of-control retail caps (as per 1920s, and arguably this past decade), need some reigning in. Some of the nominally induced initial retrograde and inertia has been overcome so far, with further energy force necessary to be appropriately applied to accelerate forward toward sufficient velocity real production and innovation return, regardless of slow growth return window via public and private sector investment in macro-technological application and endeavor, to overcome contemporaneous debt. Rome wasn't built in a day. The days of hamburger and real estate flipping are over, regardless of attempts at in-country real property to overseas sales, especially on foreclosed properties, particularly when US citizens bravely serve. Real economy earnings are the energy component, without which, continued reaction, whether nucleonic (sunstar), or conventional (electronic and oxidation, among others), either collapse (in the former, more hyperbolic case, H + H = He, fused into a finally unsustainable hyper-mass, imploding into a gravitational suckhole), or, in the latter case, perhaps more analogous, extinguish from lack of earnings fuel. The days of MBA, as Master of "Bank" Administration, are most assuredly over, at least for the foreseeable future. Time to get real.
    Sep 01 02:54 AM | Link | Reply
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