'Cash on the Sidelines' Should Be 'Investors on the Sidelines' 9 comments
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I had gotten some intense reactions from my previous post with regards to cash on the sidelines (in the form of money market mutual fund investments) flowing to bonds and not to equities, thus equities are not likely to fall as hard given the lack of money flowing to them. From Seeking Alpha, logical thought said this:
"One can wonder how equities can drop in that fashion when there aren't enough long positions to liquidate in the first place."
You're kidding, right? This statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, assuming that there are approximately the same number of shares in existence now as there were during the March lows (thereby making for the same number of "long positions"). In fact, I suspect that there may actually be MORE shares out there (and thus more "long positions"), as there have been few if any buy-backs while there has been lots of equity issuance. Meanwhile, what HAVE declined greatly are the short positions, so you can kiss that cushion goodbye.
There have also been harsh reactions against the "cash on the sidelines" argument in these posts:
"What About All That Cash On The Sidelines?"
"The Fallacy of Cash On The Sidelines"
All these arguments against cash on the sidelines and the lack of flows into equities being a bullish indicator suffer from having too narrow a view on the matter, in fact they can be considered "square" or too "literal" or "simplistic". Other bullish proponents, including myself, were not referring to the actual number of shares out there. Those who oppose the "cash on the sidelines" argument are in fact correct in their obvious assessment that for every seller, there is a buyer, thus there is no inflow into or outflow out of equities. The number of shares long held by investors are indeed constant (unless there are buybacks or share issuance). They thus say that this has no effect whatsoever on additional flows that may push equities up further. It's pretty simple and easy to fall for this argument actually.
Here is the less "literal" and more truthful view on the matter. Before the market capitulated last March, majority of people were panic selling on the way down. Only a brave few tried to catch this "falling knife", and some who tried to do this stunt too early also sold shares further down. But there were a smart few who were able to buy the bulk of their positions at or near the very bottom, and these individuals or institutions were few and far between among those who were liquidating or going short. So in short, a few number of individuals or institutions absorbed the selling of a majority number of individuals or institutions. Most investors had little or no positions, while a rare minority had almost 100% positions in equities (since they had to absorb everyone else' positions). There is in fact, no outflow out of equities in a theoretical sense. But what occurred was an "outflow of investors" instead.
If shares are held only by a few entities and the majority of the public are mostly out of stocks, and the former are not selling (since they just bought so much), what do you have? You have short supply of shares, and new buyers would have no choice but to bid shares up since those who bought the majority of shares are just holding. So naturally, stocks go up without volume, and the move can be massive. We just witnessed this the past six months with the S&P 500 going up by as much as 60%.
Now if you were one of the lucky individuals or institutions who saw that shares were pricing in a depression scenario and had the foresight to see that only a less-bearish recession was taking place, and you're almost 100% exposed to equities, how do you exit your positions eventually? You sell slowly ON THE WAY UP and wait till there is ENOUGH OF A BID on the market to dump the rest of the shares (if you ever plan to). You cannot dump your massive positions in one go if there is no bid volume in the market. This is exactly what is happening now given the many skeptics. So you can say that despite the market going up this much, the contrarian side is still the bullish view.
By the time you get the bid under the market for you to dump the long positions you accumulated near the low, guess what... by this time the recession is already over and the consensus already agrees with it, that's why you get the demand for shares. It's a confirmed bull market by this time. People are always like this, they need the concrete and tangible data to come out before they commit to putting money to work in equities again.
This is precisely what I mean by "one can wonder how equities can drop in that fashion when there aren't enough long positions to liquidate in the first place". I didn't mean it in a literal sense. It's not that there are not enough shares out there, but the smart money who accumulated near the bottom will keep the supply of shares and only unload it when the demand is there.
Unless they decide to sell, supply will remain restricted and equities have more room to run... until we get another "inflow of investors" into equities again. Based on the chart below, we haven't got this inflow into equities yet. I think they should rename "cash on the sidelines" to "investors on the sidelines" to avoid more confusion.
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The alternative scenario is that "the smart money" (most of which is quite bearish on the economic fundamentals) will get tired of waiting for "the dumb money" to take those shares off their hands, and will instead dump their stocks before the music stops playing again in order to preserve whatever profits they have left.
On Sep 27 08:31 AM logicalthought wrote:
> >>...the smart money who accumulated near the bottom will keep the
> supply of shares and only unload it when the demand is there.<<<br/>
>
> The alternative scenario is that "the smart money" (most of which
> is quite bearish on the economic fundamentals) will get tired of
> waiting for "the dumb money" to take those shares off their hands,
> and will instead dump their stocks before the music stops playing
> again in order to preserve whatever profits they have left.
On Sep 27 08:31 AM logicalthought wrote:
> >>...the smart money who accumulated near the bottom will keep the
> supply of shares and only unload it when the demand is there.<<<br/>
>
> The alternative scenario is that "the smart money" (most of which
> is quite bearish on the economic fundamentals) will get tired of
> waiting for "the dumb money" to take those shares off their hands,
> and will instead dump their stocks before the music stops playing
> again in order to preserve whatever profits they have left.
Of course not, but only in the short run. Otherwise, how would you explain where the Nasdaq was in January of 2000, or the S&P in the summer of 2007? I understand and use technicals all the time, for entry and exit points for my fundamentally-based positions. But if you're so highly technically-oriented, surely you'll note the implications of the fact that the volume on almost this entire ride up has been far less than it was on the way down.
On Sep 27 05:27 PM logicalthought wrote:
> >>People also have to understand that the stock market can't be all
> fundamentals.<<
>
> Of course not, but only in the short run. Otherwise, how would you
> explain where the Nasdaq was in January of 2000, or the S&P in
> the summer of 2007? I understand and use technicals all the time,
> for entry and exit points for my fundamentally-based positions. But
> if you're so highly technically-oriented, surely you'll note the
> implications of the fact that the volume on almost this entire ride
> up has been far less than it was on the way down.
On Sep 27 06:19 PM Terence Chan wrote:
> Volume always comes at peaks. If there's no volume, it might correct
> short-term, but it won't crash:)
On Sep 27 09:29 PM logicalthought wrote:
> That's absolutely not necessarily true. Assuming that SPY volume
> is a good proxy for overall market volume, look at how light it was
> in late September and into October of 2007 when the SPY/S&P hit
> the all-time highs, and then look at how much stronger it was in
> the July-August plunge that preceded that and then the big plunges
> that happened after.
Personally, that's much less meaningful to me than the concept of RELATIVE volume when comparing two recent opposite trends, and that's why the light volume on this uptrend makes it less credible compared to the big multi-month volume on the downtrend. I'm not "calling the top" right here, but I'm 99% sure that we're within 10% of it.
On Sep 27 10:52 PM Terence Chan wrote:
> hehe. expand your chart to 3 years. the light volume was before
> march 2007. After that volume picked up so there is sign of distribution.
> compare it to the period before march 2007. There was volume at
> the top. but of course nobody gets to sell at the top, so a lot
> of volume also came out thereafter. right now, there is no signs
> of distribution, so no top for the market:)
www.ritholtz.com/blog/.../
should clear it all up.