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As you might have guessed by now, we are voracious readers here at Smead Capital Management. We saw Robert Prechter of Elliott Wave Theory fame interviewed on Bloomberg and then read the transcript of his interview. He has been pretty negative for the 29 years I have been in the investment business. He gained his notoriety for predicting the 1987 Crash and the 2007-2009 Meltdown that bottomed in March of this year. What the interviewers never share with you is that he stayed bearish from 1987 to 2007, but as open-minded absorbers of financial market information, we read the pessimists also.

He, as you might have already guessed, is bearish on the U.S. stock market. His two main reasons are what we would like to talk about. First, he said that too many stocks were making 52-week highs on the New York Stock Exchange and, to him, that is dangerous. Secondly, he mentioned that traders had swung from 2% bullish in March to 92% bullish in October.

It is easy to refute his first point. The market went down so much between September 18th and October 10th last year that it is highly likely that you will get a large number of new 52-week highs in stocks. Therefore, trying to call this an excessive amount of enthusiasm is like telling a University of Washington football fan that beating USC is all we should expect from our new Coach, Steve Sarkisian. What has happened up to this point in the Greatest Bull Market that Nobody Loved is a good start.

We are also not afraid of his second point. Traders are very short-term in nature and we think are dominated by what we call, Closet Bears. The Closet Bears are invested in U.S. stocks through long positions in oil and basic materials. They believe in a worldwide pickup in the economy led by China and India and want to own only those investments which benefit from a weak dollar. They believe that U.S. economic dominance is over and if you are going to be long in the U.S. stock market it better be with one foot out the door and have inflation protection attached. Mr. Prechter argues for a major bottom in the U.S. dollar, which could kill the oil and materials play. Lastly, the traders like the volatility of the popular large cap cyclical stocks.

Prechter’s advice could be a blessing to all those BRIC traders out there long oil and basic materials. However, other market participants like individual investors, endowments and pension plans are dramatically under-invested in U.S. large cap stocks (after years of diversifying away from the asset class). The American Association of Individual Investors shows that last week their naturally optimistic members are more bearish than bullish (41% Bears to 35% Bulls). During the week that ended on September 23rd, investors poured in $12.9 billion in bond mutual funds and liquidated $2 billion in U.S. equity funds. This market rally continues despite the fact that investors have continued to sell their stocks.

Our conclusion is what it almost always is: Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. Investors are greedy by asking bonds and the BRIC trade to continue to be a good place to invest and are fearful of buying large cap U.S. stocks that don’t benefit from the BRIC trade. We like our portfolio and appreciate Robert Prechter’s concern, regardless of how consistently bearish he has been.

“It's the same old story. Same old song and dance, my friend.”

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  • I love Prechter poppers. He's been surfin the Elliot Wave to disaster for years. I also agree: listen to what investors DO..not what they say. Good info on the Stock/Bond flows. Here is another one..look at how overvalued PUTS are compared to CALLS. All these 'optimists' are buying downside protection...probably against stocks they don't even own!
    2009 Oct 16 12:26 PM Reply
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  • Bob is Not Mocked!

    The technicals the author cites are Only negative in context. In the middle of a larger bull trend, they would not be especially worrisome. In the aftermath of the sort of downside kick-off we saw in the last two years (especially given the fundamental background of the collapse of a historically near unprecedented credit inflation), they are warning signs, two of many.
    2009 Oct 16 01:33 PM Reply
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  • Props for the Aerosmith quote, Mr. Smead. Mr. Prechter is like the proverbial broken clock. It would be interesting to see the total return on his personal portfolio over the last three decades. He is nonetheless an interesting read but like other socio-economic cycle theorists (Ravi Batra for example), must be taken with more than a pinch of salt.
    2009 Oct 16 02:00 PM Reply
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  • Prechter also called the intermediate bottom in 2009. If you bought then and sold at 10000 (by his suggestions) you did pretty well. Every day the news and data releases seem to corroborate his long term view. More deleveraging and default, and this can only lead to deflation, since our padded 'growth' numbers and price bubbles are not only debt-financed, but based in debt increasing. So maybe we have a negative Prechter, as well as a semi negative Whitney, and Soros, but even the Fed does not see any significant pace to economic recovery. Meanwhile Geithner is talking about doing whatever it takes to keep the dollar up. Hmm...
    2009 Oct 16 06:02 PM Reply
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  • Prechter stayed bearish from 1987 to 2007 ? Not in my opinion.

    Are you are implying that your explanations for the numbers of companies at 52 week highs and the huge turn in the bullish/bearish indicators are the basis for a continuing bull market ? I'll take the other side of that trade.

    I've been following Prechter's work for many yaers and have profited immensely from it. But no one is right all the time ... thats what makes markets.
    2009 Oct 17 03:03 PM Reply
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  • "This market rally continues despite the fact that investors have continued to sell their stocks." OK, so what's pushing it up? Or better, WHO's pushing it up? Hmmm...could it be the banks, hedge funds, and fund investors. Not the individuals or pension funds, you say? That doesn't sound to encouraging to me! Sharks feeding off of one another is a water I'd sooner not swim in. Prechter is starting to make more sense to me.
    2009 Oct 17 04:59 PM Reply
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  • On Oct 16 06:02 PM Michael2343 wrote:

    > Prechter also called the intermediate bottom in 2009. <

    And the bottom in 2003.

    >What the interviewers never share with you is that he stayed bearish from 1987 to 2007, but as open-minded absorbers of financial market information, we read the pessimists also.<

    They never share that with you because it's not true! Did that cross your mind? I didn't think so.

    Anyone who states that Bob Prechter stayed bearish from 1987 to 2007 is either knowingly flat out lying, has an agenda of his own that needs attention, or simply doesn't know his facts. In any case, he shouldn't be misleading his readers with such disingenuous garbage. He probably shouldn't be writing at all.

    It's about as honest as writing something like "Back in year 2000 when the Dow peaked at 21,600, General Motors purchased J.P.Morgan Bank for the second time. Remember that folks? Well since that time......."

    When I read something that is so blatantly false as this declaration that essentially says "Bob Prechter is a perma-bear, always has been and always will be", and when that statement is quickly proven to be false simply by reading any number of Bob Prechter's calls in the past, then how can I or any other reader who recognizes such blatant inaccuracies take this reader seriously in anything else he says? We can't. At least I can't.
    2009 Oct 17 09:01 PM Reply
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  • Sorry, Mr. Smead, but your "29 years in the investment business" have not been quite long enough to give you adequate perspective on Mr. Prechter's record. If you go back just a bit further, say 32 years ago to 1977, you will discover that Bob was one of the most accurate long-term bulls during the 1977-1982 period, consistently calling for one of the biggest, longest bull markets in our lifetime. I knew Bob back then and have been a subscriber to the EW Theorist since Vol.1 Issue 1. Certainly not perfect, but one of the best in the business.
    2009 Oct 18 05:54 PM Reply