Were Fannie and Freddie the Real Enablers of the Housing Bubble? 18 comments
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Via Mark Thoma:
Economist's View: Rise and Fall of Non-Agency Securitization:
This is why I have always thought that the argument that "Fannie (FNM) and Freddie (FRE) did it" is a non-starter. Two reasons:
Loans owned by Fannie and Freddie can be a problem for the government, but they are not a problem for the financial system--nobody thinks that they could create a linked domino chain of destabilizing bankruptcies. Securitized loans without a public backstop owned by banks, on the other hand...
Fannie, Freddie, and Ginnie were losing market share as the housing bubble grew--not gaining it. They did not force more lax lending standards on the private market, they followed the private market down.
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So far in 2009 the D.C. lenders have 90% of the new mortgage market.
Without F/F the insane things that happened in 2005 - 2008 would never have happened. The D.C. lenders are responsible for the mortgage mess.
Look at the break point in 2004 when F/F suddenly went from 70% of mortgages to less than 50%. The non-agency securitization was all the junk that could not qualify for F/F and it added maybe 20 or 30% to market demand - turning what was a normal bubble into a super bubble.
F/F helped make a normal bubble that would not have collapsed the system. Non-agency securitization turned it into a super bubble spread throughout the economic system.
Regulation of non-agency securitization would have stopped the super bubble. F/F were improperly managed (managed like for profits rather than gov. agencies) which caused the original bubble.
On Oct 28 08:14 AM Bruce Krasting wrote:
> I am not sure how you can reach your conclusion looking at this graph.
> In 08 F/F were 70% of the total market. Today they have slacked off
> a bit but Ginnie may has grown tremendously.
>
> So far in 2009 the D.C. lenders have 90% of the new mortgage market.
>
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> Without F/F the insane things that happened in 2005 - 2008 would
> never have happened. The D.C. lenders are responsible for the mortgage
> mess.
Brad’s point and the points made by One Eyed Guide are pretty well established and difficult to refute. The idea that Fannie and Freddie created the momentum that produced the explosion in private market securitization from 2003-2007 seems silly on its surface. What happened to private label securitization when Fannie and Freddie eased up in 2005 was full throttle acceleration, not momentum.
If you really believe that Fannie and Freddie ignited the flame, then you must also be in favour of more governmental intervention in the markets. If the private market were so incapable of restraint that it would need to explosively grow crappy mortgage securitizations because of momentum created by Fannie and Freddie, it is clearly incapable of moderating itself.
Fannie and Freddie were definitely a big part of the problem, but their fault is much smaller than greedy and dishonest originators (of the mortgages and the deals), gullible investors, and rating agencies that allowed their ratings to be bought.
Whenever you have the government in the market, whether by providing direct subsidy or guarantee, it changes the underlying values in home financing and ownership from what they would be if 100% privately financed. Throughout the existence of these agencies there has been a "bubble".
I would also hasten to add, that this intervention has provided stimulus to mining, manufacturing, utilities, home service providers, local governments, and a general improvement in quality of life for the US population. The bubble was kept a manageable size when regulations were effective.
But I am afraid that this goose may finally be cooked. Too much greed, too many grabbing for an outsize share of her golden eggs. So sad...
The stock market is very liquid, because with each share of stock, you know what you are getting. The financials and relevant company events and information have all been standardized, released in quarterly/annual financials, and rules enforced by the SEC.
The mortgage market could NEVER be standardized unless the same standards are enforced. If people could release quarterly financials, relevant personal events with regards to payment of mortgage, etc., then maybe I could see a liquid mortgage market.
That chart shows me that securitization of packages of 'standard' mortgages became rampant in '04. Without the securitization of mortgages, the banks would not have had all that extra money and leverage to go lending crazy. Then without that money, there would have been WAY less incentive do all that CRAZY stuff that drove the market to higher heights (CRAZY = exotic mortgage, fraudulent mortgages, etc.)
"Loading up their books" is an overstatement. Based on 10-K’s, Fannie’s holding of subprime and Alt-A peaked at around $75B at year-end 2009 – around 3% of Fannie’s mortgage credit portfolio, and around 3% of the balance of these mortgages outstanding at the time.
I would add to your list of reasons greedy speculators and an all-too-believing prospective home-owner.
On Oct 28 09:55 AM Mark Alexander wrote:
> Fannie and Freddie were definitely a big part of the problem, but
> their fault is much smaller than greedy and dishonest originators
> (of the mortgages and the deals), gullible investors, and rating
> agencies that allowed their ratings to be bought.
If they weren't there to eat all the loss I doubt if people would have indulged to excess the way they did. Things only got really bubbly when they started to buy up all the trash. In my mind that makes them one of the biggest contributors and the chart vindicates that view. Not the other way around.
On Oct 28 02:56 PM Mark Alexander wrote:
> surferdude,
>
> "Loading up their books" is an overstatement. Based on 10-K’s, Fannie’s
> holding of subprime and Alt-A peaked at around $75B at year-end 2009
> – around 3% of Fannie’s mortgage credit portfolio, and around 3%
> of the balance of these mortgages outstanding at the time.
On Oct 28 08:14 AM Bruce Krasting wrote:
> Without F/F the insane things that happened in 2005 - 2008 would
> never have happened. The D.C. lenders are responsible for the mortgage
> mess.
OldRick, there is no doubt that Fannie and Freddie ;played the old fashioned corrupt political game with the rest of them ... and they were and continue to be a major problem. They just weren't as bad as the combination of crappy banks and Wall Street.
On Oct 29 09:58 AM surferdude808 wrote:
> looking at their pls holdings at 2009 as a share of their total book
> is an apple/orange analysis. what is more relevant is the share of
> pls to the flow of total mortgage assets acquired during the bubble
> years, which is way more than 3%. in general, prices are set at the
> margin. since the enterprises were buying pls at the margins, this
> contributed to the run-up in housing prices, which fueled the need
> for "innovative" mortgages so that buyers could purchase homes with
> higher prices. the enterprises played a very large and direct role
> in the housing bubble.
Cheap money created by the Federal Reserve from 2002-2004 caused the environment for the enablers to become enabled. The lag time from 2004 until 2006 to recover to the Taylor Rule principle further enabled the enablers including Fannie and Freddie.
In other words, the Government caused the problem and varying Government Entities became enablers as well as other entities.