Sidelined Cash: Fuel for the Fire 22 comments
November 11, 2009
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Investor cash on the sidelines could serve as a source of funds for additional stock purchases and a continued move higher in the market averages. As the below chart shows, cash levels remain higher than the 27% reached during the 2001-2002 recession and far above the 16% historical average. (Click to enlarge)
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If one includes ultra short and short term bond fund investments, potential liquidity that could find its way into stocks is significant. In short, investors do not believe this rally is sustainable and that is music to a contrarian's ears.
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This article has 22 comments:
It will 100% prove my point that average "investors" are morons.
Instead of buying stocks when the S&P 500 was at 700, they wait until the market is up 70%, Cramer touting a new book, and CNBC telling people they "have" to buy or miss it.
Seeing as the majority of Americans are completely clueless that this is nothing more than a FED liquidity driven stock market on low volume, they will once again get destroyed when the party ends.
This party will keep going as long as the FED is determined to mortgage away the next 3 generations of this country's net worth to support an economy where its citizens are still 122% in debt up to their eyeballs.
The game plan is to pop up the market until all the managers who are underweight are forced to buy.
The longer the party lasts, the worse the hangover.
Net wealth of US households fell from 22 trillion in Oct 2007 to around 12 trillion in March 2009 in what was quite obviously the biggest 'dash for cash' in human history.
Almost everybody who was invested took some sort of a hit with some people suffering a lot more than others.
A good chunk of these people will have been baby boomers and or retirees. For these people replacing lost capital is difficult or even impossible. So it is quite understandable that these people will become more risk averse, perhaps irrationally so for some time.
In view of the incredible shock that a lot of investors have had over the past 18 months I would expect money market levels to stay higher than normal.
Whilst the old adage 'one bitten twice shy' doesn't seem to be having much affect on recapitalized bankers it is apparently having an affect on the saner part of the population, namely people who have worked hard all their lives and don't want to see their remaining pot go up in smoke.
To go down to the normal 16% level, there should be an additional 17% decrease.
To me, this means that we are about halfway through the rally.
Smart money buys stocks when nobody wants them. Then once they have huge gains they say, "Here, take mine."
That is exactly what I am doing.
I still have longs on, but I am laughing all the way to the bank watching people only now buying stocks, after a 70% move.
Like I said before: It is a Fed liquidity driven rally. You cannot fight the Fed, however, since there is no real economic recovery going on here, once the Fed is forced to withdraw all that cash, its bye bye stock market.
(And probably taking a few million Americans net worth down the toilet as well- hey but don't worry everyone, Cramer will write yet another book called "Getting back to even again and again")
On Nov 11 08:19 AM AxIt wrote:
> Very interesting. I disagree with many of the comments above: the
> graph actually shows that money is coming in. Cash % went down roughly
> from 48% to 33%, a decrease of about 15%.
> To go down to the normal 16% level, there should be an additional
> 17% decrease.
> To me, this means that we are about halfway through the rally.
On Nov 11 08:19 AM AxIt wrote:
> Very interesting. I disagree with many of the comments above: the
> graph actually shows that money is coming in. Cash % went down roughly
> from 48% to 33%, a decrease of about 15%.
> To go down to the normal 16% level, there should be an additional
> 17% decrease.
> To me, this means that we are about halfway through the rally.
Of course, lots of folks insist on looking for the comfort of "historic relationships".
Guys, we need to get over it. We've seen that "history" Change, to borrow a bumper sticker. Any time we trot out the old normal and compare it to the new craziness, its just going to remind us that the pundits were really never that great at predicting the future, and now that their crystal ball's satellite has smacked into the moon, the situation has not improved.
On Nov 11 09:20 AM Fin de siecle wrote:
> Just to point out that the % numbers you are looking at are in the
> form of a ratio. If equity market cap was 100 in March, money market
> funds were 48. Since then the market is up 56% so market cap is now
> 156, and cash funds are now 32% of 156 = 49. No change from March.
> Cash fund levels havent changed- equity prices have simply been marked
> much higher.
try to think - if money on sidelines come to stock market do they disappear? no they just have new owner who puts them on sidelines again
money are always on sidelines
On Nov 11 09:20 AM Fin de siecle wrote:
> Just to point out that the % numbers you are looking at are in the
> form of a ratio. If equity market cap was 100 in March, money market
> funds were 48. Since then the market is up 56% so market cap is now
> 156, and cash funds are now 32% of 156 = 49. No change from March.
> Cash fund levels havent changed- equity prices have simply been marked
> much higher.
Of course she is ahedge fund manager and knows other hedge fund managers if Hussman is so smart why is Finerman so rich?
> just to remind you money markets are safe -- equity markets are risky.
...
Whilst the old adage 'one bitten twice shy' doesn't seem to be having much affect on recapitalized bankers it is apparently having an affect on the saner part of the population, namely people who have worked hard all their lives and don't want to see their remaining pot go up in smoke. >
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But money markets aren't necessarily all that safe either. Even if they never "break the dollar" again, the value of those dollars are still at risk. By some calculations the dollar has dropped some 15% from earlier highs in the year and many economists expect that to be a long term trend.
Dollars themselves have no intrinsic value. They are totally dependent upon the world's "full faith and credit of the U.S. government" and many are beginning to question the competency of that government given some of its recent actions and the fiascoes that seem to follow one after another.
If inflation takes off, those holding a lot of cash may have once again been left "holding the bag".
How much business debt is on the sidelines?
How much government debt is on the sidelines?
Americans are deleverageing. Cashing out their 401k's and blowing through their savings. That cash on the sidelines is going to food and energy and some of it will go to paying off debt too.
Mr. Archman said this back in May: "From where I sit here, the market is more than fairly valued here based on all news and earnings we have seen over the past few months." It sounds like he may have missed this year's rally, and now can't bear to see the market go any higher. Out of curiosity Mr. Archman, what percentage of your investments were in stocks back in May?
On Nov 11 08:36 AM Archman Investor wrote:
> They have a term for that: It's called "dumb money."
> Smart money buys stocks when nobody wants them. Then once they have
> huge gains they say, "Here, take mine."
> That is exactly what I am doing.
> I still have longs on, but I am laughing all the way to the bank
> watching people only now buying stocks, after a 70% move.
> Like I said before: It is a Fed liquidity driven rally. You cannot
> fight the Fed, however, since there is no real economic recovery
> going on here, once the Fed is forced to withdraw all that cash,
> its bye bye stock market.
> (And probably taking a few million Americans net worth down the toilet
> as well- hey but don't worry everyone, Cramer will write yet another
> book called "Getting back to even again and again")