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Driven by computers that cost more than the average person will earn in their lifetime the investment markets move at light speed. To keep pace hedge funds, mutual funds, institutional investors and multi-billion dollar money managers spend large sums of money on high-tech tools to give them an edge. Throw in some illegal insider trading from big names in the industry and it leaves you wondering what chance does a small individual investor have?

Not much of a chance if you let the Wall Street players define the rules. However, you might just slay the giant if you define the rules. In a recent Wall Street Journal article, Jason Zweig noted that:

From the point of view of an investor, all this frantic trading is just noise. In 1976, the great financial analyst Benjamin Graham declared that “the stock market resembles a huge laundry in which institutions take in large blocks of each other’s washing … without rhyme or reason.” Mr. Graham died that year, but today he would laugh at the speed of the spin cycle. He would then ignore the momentary vibrations in a company’s stock price and go right back to analyzing the value of its business.

As an investor, you are free to choose your own time horizon. If other people want to try earning a few fractions of a penny a few thousand times a day, you should wish them well — and refuse to join them.

Contrary to what many are now saying, buy-and-hold and investing in quality blue chip stocks is not dead. Consider the following stocks:

Abbott Laboratories (ABT) is engaged in the discovery, development, manufacture and sale of a diversified line of healthcare products including: drugs, nutritional products, diabetes monitoring devices and diagnostics. The company has a strong new product pipeline, with possible significant launches in both the medical device and pharmaceutical areas. ABT has increased its dividend for the last 37 years and the stock is currently yielding 3.10%. See the most recent Analysis.

Emerson Electric Co. (EMR) primarily makes backup power equipment for telecom and Internet providers and users, climate control components, and electric motors. The company has a strong competitive position in several major product categories. EMR has increased its dividend for the last 52 years and the stock is currently yielding 3.20%. See the most recent Analysis.

Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) engages in the manufacture and sale of various products in the health care field worldwide. The company enjoys competitive advantages and has products that are largely immune from economic cycles. JNJ has increased its dividend for the last 47 years and the stock is currently yielding 3.20%. See the most recent Analysis.

3M Co. (MMM) is a diversified technology company with a presence in various businesses, including industrial & transportation, healthcare, display & graphics, consumer & office, safety, security & protection services, and electro and communications. The company has a leading position in many of the markets it serves and a strong balance sheet with a relatively little debt. MMM has increased its dividend for the last 51 years and the stock is currently yielding 2.71%. See the most recent Analysis.

PepsiCo, Inc. (PEP) is a global snack and beverage company. The Company manufactures, markets and sells a range of salty, convenient, sweet and grain-based snacks, carbonated and non-carbonated beverages and foods. The company enjoys relatively stable end markets, strong cash flows, leading global market positions and trend-setting product innovations. PEP has increased its dividend for the last 37 years and the stock is currently yielding 2.87%. See the most recent Analysis.

SYSCO Corporation (SYY), through its subsidiaries, engages in the marketing and distribution of a range of food and related products primarily for foodservice industry in the United States and Canada. The company operates in a relatively stable industry, in which it has the largest market share. SYY has increased its dividend for the last 39 years and the stock is currently yielding 3.57%. See the most recent Analysis.

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (WMT) is the largest retailer in North America. The company operates retail stores in various formats worldwide. It operates through three segments: Wal-Mart Stores, Sam’s Club, and International. The company enjoys dominant market share positions, price leadership and strong cash flows. WMT has increased its dividend for the last 35 years and the stock is currently yielding 2.13%. See the most recent Analysis.

If your goal is to build an ever-increasing revenue stream from income investments, the above seven dividend stocks will give your income a boost over time. The key is to wait for the right entry point and let time take care of the rest.

Full Disclosure: Long ABT, EMR, JNJ, MMM, PEP, SYY, WMT. See a list of all my income holdings here.

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    Well said and exactly right. Thank you for the great quote and your work here.
    Nov 11 04:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    Buy and hold is not dead. It never was and never will. Any advisor that recommends that you switch in and out of stocks frequently is only after your money either in terms of selling you subscription services, charging you money for handling your investments or charging you for trades ( brokers).

    One should however implement a sound buy and hold strategy that works for them and this strategy should include sound diversification, dollar cost averaging and selective dividend reinvestment. Consistent Dividend growth should be supported by sustainable earnings growth over time as well.

    Buy and hold investors should also have an exit plan in case things don't go as expected. For me, when a company which has raised distributions for over a decade starts cutting dividends I exit the position and moce my business in more promising candidates.
    Nov 11 04:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    One of the other headlines on SA said it appropriately. When the media starts barking something en masse, they are probably all wrong.

    I have seen so many "Buy and Hold is Dead!" headlines in the last 6-12 months, it's almost nauseating. If everybody listens to the media, volatility would spike, and all the smart buy and hold investors would just buy the good companies when the price is on the down swing.
    Nov 11 05:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    i agree will you buy and hold is not dead but the how can you make money in the stock market and never be a sell. at some point you have to be a sell and you want to sell when people are buying and not when everyone is selling
    Nov 11 05:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    Using this reasoning which is your position with companies like GE or others similar that after 50 years had a bump for a year or two and then starts their dividends?

    What about IBM that had and adjustment period is now providing again a good dividend and a 60% value increase?

    Rgds.

    On Nov 11 04:57 PM Dividend Growth Investor wrote:

    > Buy and hold is not dead. It never was and never will. Any advisor
    > that recommends that you switch in and out of stocks frequently is
    > only after your money either in terms of selling you subscription
    > services, charging you money for handling your investments or charging
    > you for trades ( brokers).
    >
    > One should however implement a sound buy and hold strategy that works
    > for them and this strategy should include sound diversification,
    > dollar cost averaging and selective dividend reinvestment. Consistent
    > Dividend growth should be supported by sustainable earnings growth
    > over time as well.
    >
    > Buy and hold investors should also have an exit plan in case things
    > don't go as expected. For me, when a company which has raised distributions
    > for over a decade starts cutting dividends I exit the position and
    > moce my business in more promising candidates.
    Nov 11 07:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    I had been a long-term holder of GE (long enough to have a zero-cost basis in them), but when they cut their dividend - I sold out of it. They dropped way down very quickly. They got so low that they started looking attractive again and I bought back in for $6.75 (less than a fourth of what I had sold them for). I rode the stock back up to $11.00 and sold enough to give me a zero cost-basis again after all expenses. I ended up with more stock than I had before and still had a zero cost-basis. I never thought the company was broken - but the stock was. I moved them back into my Core Portfolio, but normally a stock does not go into that portfolio until it has a minimum 5 years of RAISING their dividend. I may move them back into the Exploration Portfolio until they once again qualify for the Core, but in either portfolio, I will cheerfully collect that dividend while they either keep it the same for a while or start raising it again. The company is still a good company.


    On Nov 11 07:31 PM Advill wrote:

    > Using this reasoning which is your position with companies like GE
    > or others similar that after 50 years had a bump for a year or two
    > and then starts their dividends?
    >
    > What about IBM that had and adjustment period is now providing again
    > a good dividend and a 60% value increase?
    >
    > Rgds.
    >
    > On Nov 11 04:57 PM Dividend Growth Investor wrote:
    Nov 11 10:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    Good points in your article, I like your stuff and want to see which companies you think are going to raise dividends first that you follow. MCD raised and a month or so later it gained about 12%, I think that is a big part in trading these types of stocks.
    Nov 11 10:48 PM | Link | Reply
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    Personally, I like some of the dividend-paying resource stocks. The dividends can be more volatile as they may change with commodity prices. But I want to hold a company that will pay me more when the price of oil goes up.

    You get the benefit of dividends (www.planbeconomics.com.../), plus you get exposure to global growth and and inflation hedge.
    Nov 12 07:53 AM | Link | Reply
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    The beauty of B&H, is you minimize fees while allowing the market to increase in value.
    Nov 12 08:20 AM | Link | Reply
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    I like JNJ and have some shares. Also, IBM, but not looking to hold long-term. What do people think of HON? ABB?
    Nov 12 08:32 AM | Link | Reply
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    Good points by all. You see headlines like "buy and hold is dead" because they are dramatic and help sell newspapers(?), newsletters, and TV ads. Dig down, though, and you find that the whole thing is a strawman set up as if an investor's choices were only two: Buy and hold, or trade like crazy.

    In reality, an investor's choices are not binary like that. There are lots of in-between points on the spectrum, and dividend investing is a good example. One premise of dividend investing is that the dividends will rise over time, outpacing inflation. Another is that if you don't need the money right now (as a retiree might), re-investing the dividends accelerates the compounding effect. Those premises, however, do not lead to the conclusion that once you start this "cash machine" in motion, you can just let it run--buy and hold. There's a little more involved.

    As has been pointed out, some stocks change course and cut their dividends. That violates one of the basic premises (that dividends will keep rising). So the astute dividend investor has a strategy to deal with those cuts, which may be as simple as "sell any stock that cuts its dividend."

    Thus, in a good dividend strategy, you will probably not hold everything you buy "forever," so it may be misleading to call it "buy-and-hold." It's more than a semantic difference, because bad labels sometimes cause people to make bad decisions. A better label is buy-and-monitor. Twice a year or so, I conduct a Portfolio Review. Each stock has to "prove" why it deserves to remain. A stock may be dropped because it cut its dividend, or if it is obvious that its proceeds could be put to better use in another stock that fits the profile even better. If zero-cost-basis is your goal, a portion of a profitable position may be sold to achieve that

    Bottom line: There will be far less trading in a dividend strategy, but there will be some. Don't get fooled by false labels. Follow sound practices instead.
    Nov 12 09:17 AM | Link | Reply
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    I do have 2 portfolios like others a spec and a retirement.
    I buy & hold good div plays in the IRA only and spec in the other, but also hold div plays in both. I have a good deal of GE, that has not been a good play YET but it is a long term play, in 5+ years I think most everyone can say it will be UP. 3M (MMM) , FCX, HON, are good div plays (though all are up a lot at this point so be careful on these) I was trying to pick up more HON and set price missed last week by about a nickel :( now up 3+ over that set price I had.)

    I had ABB for a long term, the DIV is not the greatest and you have foreign taxes that rob a good bit of it.
    I have some pretty good energy stocks that are down enough to buy & hold that are still paying good DIV, (NI, DUK) are MY 2 biggest holdings in utilities, as prices came down I picked up more. If you look into their actual business models these 2 companies are not just drillers/producers, they transport, and sell to end users. Both have rather nice boosts in end user costs in the pipelines ok to pass higher rate hikes on to the consumers all ok by the gov. this means that they (NI & DUK) should be starting to boost profits and hence will boost their stock prices and maybe boost their DIV as well.
    not a buy & hold for DIV is below.
    Watching around the area that seems interesting at this point is Shipping (FRO, FST, GMR, DRYS & EGLE) have been clobbered enough to buy & hold for medium to long term, though most held or stopped the divs, that is OK as these will increase in price 20~60% in next couple years pretty easy. (I didnt mention some shippers doing better as they have run up in last few days enough to stay away.)

    Mark
    Nov 12 09:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    I share kelly's reasoning here. A great company may not always be a great stock. Even with great B&H stocks, there may be a time to sell, then get back in later.

    Because how long one "holds" is up for interpretation (does it mean 3 mos? 6 mos? 2 yrs? a lifetime?), B&H will never be dead. But is it wise counsel to RIGHT NOW buy in this market, then hold? Not if you are buying right now, when we are on the precipice of a potential market fallout!

    The better way to implement B&H is to BW&H - or, "Buy WELL and Hold". I learned this the hard way by buying GE at $27.00, then watching it plummet and not selling in Nov. Sure, I've DCA'd, but I'm still at a 30% loss with this holding. Now I have no choice to hold, unless I want to sell at a significant loss.

    So, yes, B&H is not dead, but wiser is the person who knows when to buy, so that one does not take a loss on the hold, and has the option to sell for profit if need be.




    On Nov 11 10:05 PM mbkelly75 wrote:

    > I had been a long-term holder of GE (long enough to have a zero-cost
    > basis in them), but when they cut their dividend - I sold out of
    > it. They dropped way down very quickly. They got so low that they
    > started looking attractive again and I bought back in for $6.75 (less
    > than a fourth of what I had sold them for). I rode the stock back
    > up to $11.00 and sold enough to give me a zero cost-basis again after
    > all expenses. I ended up with more stock than I had before and still
    > had a zero cost-basis. I never thought the company was broken - but
    > the stock was. I moved them back into my Core Portfolio, but normally
    > a stock does not go into that portfolio until it has a minimum 5
    > years of RAISING their dividend. I may move them back into the Exploration
    > Portfolio until they once again qualify for the Core, but in either
    > portfolio, I will cheerfully collect that dividend while they either
    > keep it the same for a while or start raising it again. The company
    > is still a good company.
    Nov 12 09:33 AM | Link | Reply
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    With all due respect, those buy-and-hold is dead headlines are really referring to buy-and-hold mutual fund investing, which I agree should be dead. Ironic, that you use a quote from a mutual fund buy-and-hold shrill [Zweig] for this excellent post.

    The question is how many companies one person who is not in the finance business can really follow close enough to keep track of? For me it is less than 10. In reality, I think diversification is over rated, but I realize it gives folks a modicum of respite from the stress of equity variance. For me, I go with Bufett's thinking that why would you want to invest in your 25th best company instead of your 1st.
    Nov 12 09:56 AM | Link | Reply
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    There's B&H, and then there is active trading, and both concepts not only can but should live comfortably in the same portfolio.
    Nov 12 10:15 AM | Link | Reply
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    the going in price is key. if you can get a good div paying co @ a low price(last march) & join their drip plan then b&h will work if you have a long time horizon.worked great for me. very low fees.quarterly statements but a very boring way to invest.you have to do some homework & you have to be careful not to listen to the ceo bs.so if you have patience & dont want mutual fund fees along with capital gains taxes on their sales to shrink your return then buy good cos on your own & hold.now nothing works 100% so diversify & dont have too many shares of any one co.i have over 60 different cos & my yield last year was 7.2%.did i ever have to sell @ a loss? yes.did i ever sell for a gain ?yes.you have to tweak the holdings.also remember with a drip plan you can buy shares for a lot less than broker fees.sorry for the ramble.
    Nov 12 10:26 AM | Link | Reply
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    Those are minuscules returns, you have way overlooked Altria (MO) they have more money than God. Over 7% dividend, are you boycotting the company because they manufacturing cigarettes and shooting your self in the foot? If this game is about money say it as it is and don't tell me that you don't follow MO.
    George.
    Nov 12 10:28 AM | Link | Reply
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    Oh, now, now. One can invest in plus 7% divies and avoid tobacco companies at the same time. No shot feet here.


    On Nov 12 10:28 AM User 372459 wrote:

    > Those are minuscules returns, you have way overlooked Altria (MO)
    > they have more money than God. Over 7% dividend, are you boycotting
    > the company because they manufacturing cigarettes and shooting your
    > self in the foot? If this game is about money say it as it is and
    > don't tell me that you don't follow MO.
    > George.
    Nov 12 10:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    I am curious about this blue chip increasing dividend reinvestment plan. It seems like a safe winning bet, but I wonder what kind of yearly returns do these strategies generate in bull/bear markets? Any good examples?
    Nov 12 12:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    I tell people that when I reach retirement, I am really not that interested in bonds for income. I want rising income. Bonds don't do that. I don't even care that much about what is happening to the stock value behind the scenes as long as the management, earnings, dividend are in good shape. Look at the 20 year returns and the "rising income" of dividend stocks. It is amazing the yields that you get on your original investment if you "BUY AND HOLD" long enough.
    Great advice!
    Nov 12 12:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    it is sort of an interesting concept that current flash trading programs are essentially immaterial to long term buy and hold investing-kind of like the concept that if the bath water is running, the tub will eventually be full, regardless whether the drain is left open. This may somewhat persuade the foolish so long as the fill rate exceeds the drain rate, but falls apart totally when WS Greed applies their suction pump to the drain, as in the current economic debacle. This flash trading relentless drain of money from the overall market devastates the profitablity of long term holding of good companies with the same certainty that it devastates short term private traders.
    Nov 12 12:11 PM | Link | Reply
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    Who the hell is supporting such a company like Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (WMT)? The Food they sell is poisoned and genetically manipulated. They don't even use a freezer. This company makes you sick. Do not shop nor buy stocks from this global fraud enterprise.
    Nov 12 12:59 PM | Link | Reply
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    Innocex,

    I have a real dividend portfolio that I display to the public. The portfolio was created in 2002, and it became exclusively focused on dividends in 2007. It's not meant as a "model," but as a real-time, real-money demonstration of what someone can do who follows a dividend growth strategy. You can see it here: www.sensiblestocks.com... . Use links from there to see the strategy itself, a recent Portfolio Review, a Q&A on dividend investing, etc. They are all free.

    Dave


    On Nov 12 12:01 PM Innocex wrote:

    > I am curious about this blue chip increasing dividend reinvestment
    > plan. It seems like a safe winning bet, but I wonder what kind of
    > yearly returns do these strategies generate in bull/bear markets?
    > Any good examples?
    Nov 12 01:24 PM | Link | Reply
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    As few as 5 stocks can be a diversified portfolio. Choose how many stocks you have in your portfolio by the time you can devote to studying them. You should be able to put in 1 hour/week/stock. I have held some stocks for over 50 years and study the news and information on them every week still. I have never been a buy-and-hold investor in all that time. I have been and will always be what Cramer calls "buy-and-homework" and others have termed "buy-and-manage" investor. I stick to what stocks and strategies that meet my own needs.
    I was a professional gambler at one point in my long life for quite a few years and I do not mind taking risks. The true secret of wealth building is taking risks correctly. General Patton once said "There is nothing wrong with taking risks, BUT that is quite different from being rash." Success has never been how much money you make - it is how much money you keep. Dividend stocks can outperform "Growth" stocks by as much as 22 to 1 over time. Like Willie Sutton said about banks - I go where the money is - Dividend-Paying stocks that have paid a RISING dividend for a minimum of 5 years. They form my Core Portfolio for that reason - they are where the money is over the long term.


    On Nov 12 09:56 AM Dave Shafer wrote:

    > With all due respect, those buy-and-hold is dead headlines are really
    > referring to buy-and-hold mutual fund investing, which I agree should
    > be dead. Ironic, that you use a quote from a mutual fund buy-and-hold
    > shrill [Zweig] for this excellent post.
    >
    > The question is how many companies one person who is not in the finance
    > business can really follow close enough to keep track of? For me
    > it is less than 10. In reality, I think diversification is over
    > rated, but I realize it gives folks a modicum of respite from the
    > stress of equity variance. For me, I go with Bufett's thinking that
    > why would you want to invest in your 25th best company instead of
    > your 1st.
    Nov 12 02:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    as aperson who has become financially independent SOLELY from buying and holding dividend paying stocks i enjoy this authors theme

    However the key is not what company you are buying but at what price you are getting them at

    One of these stocks is priced good and 3 others IMO are good companies but priced a bit high here and there are much better places to put your cash

    Buyinga nd holding is not dead for those who know how to pick stocks

    Stick to your plan and you will succeed,i know its possible because it happened to me.peace
    Nov 12 02:50 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm wondering why you don't have any tobacco or big pharma stocks.
    Nov 12 03:18 PM | Link | Reply
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    thats the big key-entry price.
    Nov 12 03:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    I do - I have LO, MO, and PM. If nothing else is accomplished by having them - the dividends more than pay for my wife's cigarettes. KO and PEP pay for her Soda weakness. :)


    On Nov 12 03:18 PM dividend_growth wrote:

    > I'm wondering why you don't have any tobacco or big pharma stocks.
    Nov 12 04:18 PM | Link | Reply
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    "Buy and hold" is a bad idea.
    "Buy, hold and watch like a hawk" is better.

    America is full of sr citizens who "bought and held GM"
    Nov 12 05:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    AAII.com has a screener that divides dividend stocks into DRIP and non-DRIPS. The non-DRIPS have a better yearly average return on investment (assuming dividends not reinvested), simply meaning they are better performers overall.

    This is not to say that DRIPS cannot be a useful way to invest, if you are strictly a dividend only investor and have capital appreciation as secondary in importance.


    On Nov 12 12:01 PM Innocex wrote:

    > I am curious about this blue chip increasing dividend reinvestment
    > plan. It seems like a safe winning bet, but I wonder what kind of
    > yearly returns do these strategies generate in bull/bear markets?
    > Any good examples?
    Nov 12 08:20 PM | Link | Reply
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    Depends on the bond. Many muni bond ETFs are yielding 5% tax-free, many with increasing dividends. That's about 7 - 8% taxable yield. You would need a 10% or more taxable dividend payer to match that.

    Also worthwhile are international exchange-traded bonds which are taxable at only 15%. Many yield over 10%, getting you well over 8% yield after taxes.


    On Nov 12 12:06 PM ERCaptain wrote:

    > I tell people that when I reach retirement, I am really not that
    > interested in bonds for income. I want rising income. Bonds don't
    > do that. I don't even care that much about what is happening to
    > the stock value behind the scenes as long as the management, earnings,
    > dividend are in good shape. Look at the 20 year returns and the
    > "rising income" of dividend stocks. It is amazing the yields that
    > you get on your original investment if you "BUY AND HOLD" long enough.
    >
    > Great advice!
    Nov 12 08:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    Add TAXI to the list -- 9% plus dividend, 0.3% default rate on taxi medallion loans, overall loan portfolio default rate of 2.2%, tiny in this environment, they are de-leveraging in anticipation of rising interest rates next year and moving to service the loans they have sold to improve the return on capital and improve margins.
    Nov 12 08:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    After decades of "Buy and Hold" of high quality, dividend-paying stocks, the past decade has taught me to "Buy, Hold, Sell (high), and Buy again", and this has worked much better.
    Nov 13 08:06 AM | Link | Reply
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    Altria does have a lot of cash and a good dividend. I sold my shares because the company has no upside in my view. B&H requires that it have growth potential.


    On Nov 12 10:28 AM User 372459 wrote:

    > Those are minuscules returns, you have way overlooked Altria (MO)
    > they have more money than God. Over 7% dividend, are you boycotting
    > the company because they manufacturing cigarettes and shooting your
    > self in the foot? If this game is about money say it as it is and
    > don't tell me that you don't follow MO.
    > George.
    Nov 13 11:25 AM | Link | Reply
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    You assume B&H means Buy & Forget. nonsense.


    On Nov 12 05:45 PM ozzzy4444 wrote:

    > "Buy and hold" is a bad idea.
    > "Buy, hold and watch like a hawk" is better.
    >
    > America is full of sr citizens who "bought and held GM"
    Nov 13 11:40 AM | Link | Reply
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    MO fundamentals are not wonderful right now - I am a bottom-fisher and they would not be suitable as a NEW buy for me. However I am a long term holder and intend to keep right on collecting that dividend. They have steadily returned a positive Total Return in any time frame you want to look at (12 months - 22.56%, 3 years - 36.31%, or 5 years - a very nice 151.30%). That actually is a nice upside growth over time and I will keep right on holding them and collecting that +30% dividend on my cost-basis.
    Nov 13 11:47 AM | Link | Reply
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    Buy and hold is fine if you have the right stock and the right price and the patience to reinvest dividends

    Finanncial independence WILL happen I know because it happened to me
    Nov 13 02:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    I got a small start in 2008. Then the crash happened, and I thought wow! What luck!
    Spring and summer 2009 was good.
    AEE closed today @ $25.72 My cost $23.86
    AEP closed today @ $31.62 My cost $27.58
    MO closed today @ $19.26 My cost $18.46
    OKE closed today @ $39.03 My cost $26.62
    PEP closed today @ $61.94 My cost $62.32
    PGN closed today @ $38.10 My cost $33.89
    PNW closed today @ $33.23 My cost $29.16
    SCG closed today @ $34.50 My cost $29.90
    WIN closed today @ $9.93 My cost $8.87

    My yield on OKE is 6.3%. Buyers @ today's price get 4,3%
    My yield on PGN is 7.31%. Buyers @ today's price get 6.5%
    My yield on PNW is 7.2%. Buyers @ today's price get 6.3%
    My yield on SCG is 6.28% Buyers @ today's price get 5.4%.

    Sure do wish they'd go back down again. I'm keepin' 'em....unless the dividend from one of them appears to be on shaky ground, I like them.
    Nov 13 07:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    Dividends are income to the stockholder without selling the stock, are they not? Some folks elect to allow dividends to buy more shares while others use the dividend as current income to live on.

    I am not what I consider overly educated as an investor, but I do not think you can calculate yield without taking into account the dividend. I understand that stocks who provide both growth and dividends over time perform better than just those aimed at growth. I also don't see how you can expect to make money on a company that does not make money unless it is a case of looking for a bigger sucker in the market.

    For instance, I know exactly how much in various issues I need to replace the income from my job. At such a point, I would have the option of retiring assuming that I have not allowed my lifestyle expand to consume all of my wages and my dividend income.

    ...tho I am certain someone with lots of letters at the end of their name will disagree with me on this.

    On Nov 11 05:56 PM brentsblog wrote:

    > i agree will you buy and hold is not dead but the how can you make
    > money in the stock market and never be a sell. at some point you
    > have to be a sell and you want to sell when people are buying and
    > not when everyone is selling
    Nov 14 08:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    Exactly right - that is why I look at "Total Return". That includes dividends (but not the effect of re-investing them) and gives a clear picture of how the stock is doing over time. You are also right on with your view of replacing working income with income from stock dividends (passive income) and the amount needed is worth figuring out. It is different for everyone and needs a budget to figure out exactly. I have posted before how it is done and will post again here if anyone is interested.
    Nov 15 11:13 AM | Link | Reply
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    Why are some people simply unable to comprehend that there are other people who do not buy with the end goal of selling? When people used to save for retirement by putting their money in the bank (they used to pay interest back then) did they sock away money in their retirement accounts planning on spending the pricipal when they retired? No, they hoped to save enough to meet their needs with their interest income. They planned on trying to avoid spending down their principal. People can't do that anymore. Today's interest rates are a joke. Only very wealthy people can generate any meaningful income off interest today. Dividend investors that plan on buying and KEEPING a dividend-paying stock look at their dividend stocks the same way that people saving for retirement buy stashing it in the bank used to. We don't buy to sell. We buy with the intention of keeping as long as the dividend doesn't seem threatened by falling cash flow or other fundamentals. Please don't ignore that last sentence just so you can jump on and start lecturing everyone about how stupid "buy and forget" is, either. Nobody with any intelligence ever really did that. If they were interested enough in stocks that they were buying individual stocks then they also enjoyed the pastime of investing enough that they kept an eye on what was going on. So to want to jump on here and lecture everybody about how stupid it is to do something nobody does is pedantic and overbearing.
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    Nice catch! That site is a good place full of useful information. It has been several years since I was active out there and I had forgotten about them. I had not noticed or remembered that point about DRIP VS Non-DRIP. My broker automatically re-invests dividends (commission-free) in ANY stock that pays more than $1.00 in dividends so I do not use DRIPs at all anymore, but they can be a VERY useful way to get your feet wet in a stock while on a tight budget. Another thing I have paid attention too is stock dividend schedules. Not all stocks pay dividends during the same months so you can pick stocks that pay a dividend in a different month. This makes it possible to get dividends every month in your portfolio - even using dividend stocks that pay quarterly and not monthly. It is something to keep in mind.


    On Nov 12 08:20 PM YoYoMama wrote:

    > AAII.com has a screener that divides dividend stocks into DRIP and
    > non-DRIPS. The non-DRIPS have a better yearly average return on
    > investment (assuming dividends not reinvested), simply meaning they
    > are better performers overall.
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    > This is not to say that DRIPS cannot be a useful way to invest, if
    > you are strictly a dividend only investor and have capital appreciation
    > as secondary in importance.
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    I used the free content at DIVIDENDINVESTOR.COM to find dividend pay dates. I wanted to set up a portfolio that would put a check in my mailbox every week or two.
    Nov 17 12:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    I also use them to check company information. The free content can give you a lot of helpful information.
    Nov 17 03:51 PM | Link | Reply