Chinese Exports: Can Emerging Markets Replace the U.S. Consumer? 25 comments
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After the credit crisis last year, China is increasingly focusing more on developing markets for growth. Chinese companies have been making large investments especially in developing resource-rich Middle East and Africa.
An interesting article in the Der Spiegel titled Reluctant Partners - Global Crisis Makes US More Dependent on China than Ever discusses the trade relationship between the USA and China and the rising power of China.
From the article:
When US President Barack Obama visits China this weekend, he will encounter a rival that sees the financial crisis as more of an opportunity than a threat. America, on the other hand, has been fundamentally weakened by the global crunch — and is more dependent on the goodwill of the rising superpower than ever.
The scientists at the National University of Defense Technology in Changsha, China, had plenty to celebrate: They had developed a supercomputer that could perform more than a quadrillion calculations per second.
The announcement, released just in time for US President Barack Obama’s visit to China this weekend, had symbolic value: With their new computer, dubbed “Tianhe” (”Milky Way”), the Chinese claim they will be the first country to become a direct rival to the superpower.
China is bursting with self-confidence. The new world power sees itself as a winner in the financial crisis, with its economy growing by an impressive 9% in the third quarter, while the economies of the West struggle to recover from a deep recession. And while the Americans are focused on their own problems, China is expanding its influence, both in Asia and among resource-rich African countries.
Writing about the American consumption of Chinese goods the authors write:
“Suddenly the crisis hit China, whose economy had been oriented almost completely toward the United States. In Dongguan, home to one low-wage factory after the next, entire neighborhoods have died out. “We have lost a third of our orders,” says Li Zhaoyuan, who owns Dongguan Singyan, a company that makes metal parts. He has laid off 40% of his workforce.
The remaining workers sit at outdated machines on the two floors of the plant, punching and pressing pieces of metal into objects like fishhooks and housings for Motorola mobile phones. “We used to work 24 hours a day,” says Li, “but now one eight-hour shift is enough.” He doesn’t believe that American consumers will soon be buying Chinese products as enthusiastically as they did before the crisis. He prefers to follow the advice of the strategists in Beijing, namely to focus on new markets in Asia, the Middle East and Africa.”
I agree with Mr.Li 100%. The once free-spending American consumer will not be going back to old ways any time soon with real wages in the private sector going down and rising unemployment levels. The American consumer is in belt-tightening mode now. Most of the Chinese-made cheap goods were bought with credit. As consumers shop less, credit growth has slowed for many months consecutively. China’s strategists have clearly understood that they need to rely less on America as the main export destination and focus more on emerging markets.
Chart - Key Economic Figures Comparison between China and USA (Click to Expand)
Chart - China and USA GDP Growth
Source: Der Spiegel
While China’s economic growth since 1990 is astonishing, China has a long way to go before it can beat or overtake the US economy. Despite the strong growth the Chinese economy still is relatively small compared to the US economy. So in that sense it may be premature to call China as the rising superpower.
Emerging markets in Asia, Africa, etc. may not be able to consume as much of the Chinese goods as the US did simply because consumers in those markets do not have the purchasing power as Americans do. For example, it would be wrong to assume that many Asians such as Indonesians, Indians, Vietnamese, etc. would spend as frivolously as Americans did in buying Chinese products. So the answer to my title question is that it is too early to tell whether China will be able to successfully replace USA with new markets in Asia, Africa and the Middle East as its main exports destination.
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Financing other consumers to take his place is going to be tough, because whilst China put in the Money, it was American banks that generated all that Credit. It is going to be a hard act to follow to find a sucker group of consumer lending banks that is anything like that accommodating.
Will Barak Obama press China to allow the Yuan to float against the U.S. Dollar? Does the U.S. president even realize the devastation of jobs lost in the U.S. do to unfavourable market conditions for U.S. goods and services in export markets?
So, I think China has the ability to soak up the export slack with an increase in domestic consumption. It may slow down a bit, but it won't be significant. Most of the economic growth in the world will be driven by China and then followed by India, and other smaller eastern emerging market nations.
I would put my bets on China.
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Also, the decline in US imports from China has been much less than the decline in US imports from other countries. It looks like finishing the year somewhere between 2005 and 2006 levels. So if the US fails to recover at the same rate as China's other key export markets they'll feel an impact but, all other things being equal, it (the US component) won't be as severe as some expect.
By volume and value terms, China-EM trade is and will continue to be only a fraction of China-US trade. But China is pursuing this trade because from China's viewpoint, they see much opportunity that foreign observers can not see from trade volume stats alone.
China-EM trade is growing at a much faster pace then China-US or China-EU trades. For example, China-Africa trade grew at 40% pace in 2008 while trades to OECD countries were tanking. So the China-EM trade growth volume could be comparable in the near future even though total trade volume remains much smaller. This is the part stat and chart readers can easily project and comprehend.
The qualitative element is this: China enjoy much better terms and quality in its China-EM trades comparing to China-US or China-EU trades. China-US trades, for example, consist of a very high percentage of foreign owership, in the form of brand names, sales channels, IP, even export factory management. In this trade relationship, US gets the tuna steak while China gets the fish bones, so to speak.
In China-EM trades, on the other hand, much of Chinese owership is involved. From financing, infrastructure service to brands, to IP to factory, there are much less western involvement ('taxing' from Chinese standpoint). It may be lowly smelts, comparing to pricey tuna, but China gets much of the fish meat rather than just the bones.
to drive growth either they find another large market (EU) or they grow internally. some thing that their culture seemly won't do
On Nov 13 05:17 PM silver-bug wrote:
> Good charts and diagrams, but I would like to see the demographics
> of the Chinese population, because that is the driving force of their
> economy. China has a growing middle class, as opposed to the shrinking
> middle class in America. It has a labor force of over 800 million
> people, and these are hard-working people who save money to buy things
> instead of using credit. China has $2.3 trillion worth of reserves
> to spend, and it spends this money wisely, developing infrastructure
> and obtaining vast amounts of natural resources for growth. And
> Chinese government is also providing a fiscal stimulus for it's people,
> which is also being spent wisely by the people.
>
> So, I think China has the ability to soak up the export slack with
> an increase in domestic consumption. It may slow down a bit, but
> it won't be significant. Most of the economic growth in the world
> will be driven by China and then followed by India, and other smaller
> eastern emerging market nations.
>
> I would put my bets on China.
I.E. that 40% growth in EM, maybe relate to 5% growth in US or EU growth. or less
On Nov 13 05:45 PM HaavBline wrote:
> The author raised an interesting question but failed to dig into
> it meaningfully.
>
> By volume and value terms, China-EM trade is and will continue to
> be only a fraction of China-US trade. But China is pursuing this
> trade because from China's viewpoint, they see much opportunity that
> foreign observers can not see from trade volume stats alone.
>
> China-EM trade is growing at a much faster pace then China-US or
> China-EU trades. For example, China-Africa trade grew at 40% pace
> in 2008 while trades to OECD countries were tanking. So the China-EM
> trade growth volume could be comparable in the near future even though
> total trade volume remains much smaller. This is the part stat
> and chart readers can easily project and comprehend.
>
> The qualitative element is this: China enjoy much better terms and
> quality in its China-EM trades comparing to China-US or China-EU
> trades. China-US trades, for example, consist of a very high percentage
> of foreign owership, in the form of brand names, sales channels,
> IP, even export factory management. In this trade relationship,
> US gets the tuna steak while China gets the fish bones, so to speak.
>
>
> In China-EM trades, on the other hand, much of Chinese owership is
> involved. From financing, infrastructure service to brands, to
> IP to factory, there are much less western involvement ('taxing'
> from Chinese standpoint). It may be lowly smelts, comparing to
> pricey tuna, but China gets much of the fish meat rather than just
> the bones.
The questions that remains unanswered are 1) CAN emerging markets replace the US consumer, and if they can, 2) why is China the only nation considering it?
On Nov 13 11:15 PM dingding wrote:
> Before anyone puts all the blames for America's problems on the level
> of the Chinese Yuan, please realize that the value added by the Chinese
> factories is not a high percentage of the final cost of the products.
> An undervalued Yuan actually allows US corporations to source the
> same products at lower prices, and theoretically the American consumer
> is the ultimate beneficiary.
On Nov 13 05:55 PM dw57 wrote:
> I think you over looked that its easy to grow some thing fast if
> its small. but its a lot harder to grow some thing if its really
> large.
> I.E. that 40% growth in EM, maybe relate to 5% growth in US or EU
> growth. or less
>
> On Nov 13 05:45 PM HaavBline wrote:
China plays things long term, so looking at where it is setting up bilateral trade agreements & implementing infrastructure for resource accords is their future growth market ... oh & what growth. SE Asia, Africa, Latin America ... in 15 years time, China manufacturies won't need the West.
On Nov 14 12:36 AM chennian wrote:
> but you have to note the fact that for every dollar exported to U.S.,
> China only gets about 6 cents. For exports to EM, it could be the
> other way around. That is a huge difference.
On Nov 13 05:17 PM silver-bug wrote:
> Good charts and diagrams, but I would like to see the demographics
> of the Chinese population, because that is the driving force of their
> economy. China has a growing middle class, as opposed to the shrinking
> middle class in America. It has a labor force of over 800 million
> people, and these are hard-working people who save money to buy things
> instead of using credit. China has $2.3 trillion worth of reserves
> to spend, and it spends this money wisely, developing infrastructure
> and obtaining vast amounts of natural resources for growth. And
> Chinese government is also providing a fiscal stimulus for it's people,
> which is also being spent wisely by the people.
>
> So, I think China has the ability to soak up the export slack with
> an increase in domestic consumption. It may slow down a bit, but
> it won't be significant. Most of the economic growth in the world
> will be driven by China and then followed by India, and other smaller
> eastern emerging market nations.
>
> I would put my bets on China.
Now you see just how important the US consumer really is and why everyone on the planet is concerned.
There is absolutely no way China can pick up the slack if the US consumer falters. At least not for several years.
The graphic illustrating the rise in China GDP is undoubtably impressive and also a little terrifying. It is reminiscent of the united states at the turn of the 20th century.
My history is not that great but i seem to remember there were a few pit falls along the way, no doubt this will be the case for china which has been burning 'white hot' now for quite some time.
Lets hope they don't have a blow out anytime soon....
To think 3rd world countries can make up for the US is ignorance. However, 3rd world countries are very fertile ground for rich countries to rob them of their natural resources. China seems to have taken notice and aim there.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3.../
> China has a growing middle class, as opposed to the shrinking
> middle class in America. It has a labor force of over 800 million
> people, and these are hard-working people who save money to buy things
> instead of using credit.
Right on. China's population is about 1.3 billion; India's is 1.1 billion. Together, their populations are roughly EIGHT TIMES ours. Such a large consumer base cannot be ignored. Moreover, you are correct that their people save, in some years nearly 30% of their income. Like you said, they have millions entering the middle class.
I hear the anti-ChinIndia comments already forming:
1) They save because they have to spend on healthcare, education, etc. So what? While the savings is occurring, it can be used as capital by entrepreneurs to grow companies and acquire capital. In America, people keep stock portfolios so that they can spend that money either on family or their senior living centers.
2) They have demographic problems. China yes, India not as much. China will have a Japan-like demographic winter, but not for 20 years; in that time, their economy will continue to grow. Moreover, I admit that a continuing unstable male/female ratio may cause increased crime and civil disturbance. India's fertility rate is still above 2, but the government foolishly IS celebrating those states where it has fallen below 2. So, yes, the demographic problem exists, but the growth possibilities exist DESPITE the problem.
Unfortunately, you <b>can't</b> put your bets on China. They won't let you. While they have certainly welcomed investments by foreign corporations with open arms -- providing that they brought lots of technology to steal -- they do not actually allow foreign individuals to invest in their stock market.
When you buy a "China" fund you're buying shares in businesses that have factories or other operations in China, not Chinese companies themselves.
So good luck betting on China. When they're satisfied that they have bled those foreign companies dry of technology, they'll tax them out of existence and you'll lose your entire investment.
On Nov 13 05:17 PM silver-bug wrote:
> Good charts and diagrams, but I would like to see the demographics
> of the Chinese population, because that is the driving force of their
> economy. China has a growing middle class, as opposed to the shrinking
> middle class in America. It has a labor force of over 800 million
> people, and these are hard-working people who save money to buy things
> instead of using credit. China has $2.3 trillion worth of reserves
> to spend, and it spends this money wisely, developing infrastructure
> and obtaining vast amounts of natural resources for growth. And
> Chinese government is also providing a fiscal stimulus for it's people,
> which is also being spent wisely by the people.
>
> So, I think China has the ability to soak up the export slack with
> an increase in domestic consumption. It may slow down a bit, but
> it won't be significant. Most of the economic growth in the world
> will be driven by China and then followed by India, and other smaller
> eastern emerging market nations.
>
> I would put my bets on China.
Ignorant is not understanding math, what don't you get about a 1 child policy especially one that is likely a male.
On Nov 15 07:58 AM rick12345 wrote:
> I don't think China expects developing markets to completely replace
> the US as their biggest customer, but I do believe it would like
> to expand its presence in these regions, if only to pick up some
> of the slack created by the financial crisis. Initially, they will
> concentrate efforts on building stronger ties with the EU , India,
> South America and Russia, however ultimately a country which is export
> driven cannot ignore a market the size of America. Demographics are
> the same all over the world; We had a war in the 1940's which created
> a baby boom throughout the whole of the western world; To say that
> China or Japans population is older would be ignorant. A growing
> skills crisis is slowly emerging throughout all of the developed
> world, the result of improved education and peoples general unwillingness
> to work in any environment other than the office. Will there be another
> industrial revolution based on technology and computers? Probably,
> but that is another story all together.