Falling Dollar Erodes Non-U.S. Investors’ Returns 7 comments
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With the US dollar falling down a precipice, spare a thought for non-US investors invested in US stocks and bonds.
The graph below shows the performance of US 10-year Treasury Notes since the beginning of March in both US dollar terms (red line) and euro terms (blue line). Whereas US investors are showing a poor return of -2.8% for the period, European investors are completely under water to the tune of -17.5%. For the year to date the figures are -4.8% (US dollar) and -10.5% (euro). (Although I am using the euro in this example, the same logic applies to most other non-US dollar currencies.)
Source: StockCharts.com
The next graph illustrates the same principle for equities by comparing the performance of S&P 500 Index in US dollar terms (red line) with the same Index from the viewpoint of a euro investor (blue line). Whereas US investors have every reason to be very pleased with a return of +64.1%, euro investors are lagging quite far behind with +39.2%, which becomes more pronounced when compared to a return of 55.4% for the European Top 100 Index. For the year to date the figures are +22.9% (S&P 500 - US dollar), +15.6% (S&P 500 - euro) and +21.9% (European Top 100).
Source: StockCharts.com
It is understandable that European investors are not ecstatic about the greenback’s slide and will keep having reservations about committing funds to US assets until they see signs of the dollar forming a bottom.
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The roller coaster ride is still climbing the hill to the next drop.
This is going to be more frightening than the "Son of Beast" drop at Kings Island Cincinnati.
Go Bearcats.
On Nov 18 07:52 AM doubleguns wrote:
> When the dollar carry trade collapses they will have an opportunity
> and incentive to sell, sell, sell and make a very nice profit. Of
> course this will totally destroy the US stock market and our treasury
> bubble.
>
> The roller coaster ride is still climbing the hill to the next drop.
>
>
> This is going to be more frightening than the "Son of Beast" drop
> at Kings Island Cincinnati.
>It is understandable that European investors are not ecstatic about the greenback’s slide and will keep having reservations about committing funds to US assets until they see signs of the dollar forming a bottom.<
Isn't it ironic that your comment above makes perfect sense, but at the same time, it's become abundantly clear that any signs of the dollar forming a bottom will spell disaster in the US markets. European investors won't come streaming back into the US markets in that scenario either. If the dollar goes down further, foreign investors would lose. If the dollar rallies, they would lose. My contention for the past 4 or 5 months has been that we're not going to be seeing foreign money pouring into the US markets for a long, long time. And that's not any form of negative attitude on my part. It's just a sad fact that in the eyes of any foreign currency, investing in the US markets any time in the next year, at least, is bound to be a losing proposition.
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Of greater importance, from an economic standpoint, is price of oil.
Its just that their isn't any other way to invest in China etc. without the US markets. Think OTC pink sheets and ADR's to get an idea of what I mean.
The rest of my holdings are mostly held in Canadian Dollars. Much saver if you ask me.
Luis de Agustin